I said I did i.e. way back when I was a punk and my spirit was unforged. Might have been a coincidence of course. doesn’t really matter here as I am speaking with people who know. …I would have thought you ‘knew’?
Know what?
Were you in the Army?
Yes, electronic devices respond directly to such states. I have learned to accept these reactions as part of what I am; my magnetic entity is simply too violent to ignore.
I believe that we do have choices, that come as crossroads, about which we tend to have dreams years in advance.
The point is to establish not just any group, but a wholesome, healthy group that thrives and is able to sustain lives of fertile vigor.
That means that we have to press for specific qualities.
“Individualism” is not enough; education is crucial, for example, to create a profound experience of self.
Man thrives on stories. No human can live without them.
The utmost importance is given to the kind of stories that go around.
Therein lies our taste as humans, the deepest form of taste that separates us from animals;
I believe that in our taste and nature respective of narratives, Nietzsche’s statement applies: humans are more different from each other than any human is from any ape.
I don’t think that man will end up as one group, necessarily - rather, the type Man thrives when it is distributed across several sub-types, which organize in groups that bear different physical and geographical characteristics and uphold different values as supreme. This creates an environment that can be compared to a body with different organs, which then secrete and absorb people, traveling, changing.
We all inherit things without knowing what they do. Life for many species is largely stumbling upon what one is. The philosophical and prophetic types can somehow surmise what they are from afar, from early on in the journey. But they tend to forget it, when the life gets really hard. The dark night of the soul is inevitable, and it isn’t a thing that occurs just the once. Before every great change there is a great despair or a great madness.
Regardless of all this, I am still mostly interested in the relationships between the types and the brain functions. As I am an experimentalist and not a categorist, I do not believe in human made constructs that can serve as reliable categories, except in the case of hard physics or logic, in which cases the categories are not open for interpretation.
If the Briggs Myer system can be developed into laws such as ‘type x has the following arrangement of brain functions; a,b,c,d,’ etc, then it would grant real knowledge; but that knowledge would exist separately of the categories. These categories arent derived from nature, they arent strictly necessary.
It has been developed, by many. Where the Fuck you think I got this knowledge from? I’m hardly the first.
Explain to me the category vs experimentation theory of yours?
Let it go.
In fact, I am really surprised an INTJ would be so obsessed about it, the Army, or forces.
I would gladly disobey authority if I thought it was wrong, and
it has been wrong many times.
If I was called up I would express and defend my position as a conscientious objector.
But this incessant talk about the army makes no sense to me.
It is a killing machine which kills people and people’s minds.
This dictatorship reminds me of the time and a situation where for a Catholic to marry a non-Catholic Christian, express permission is required from his or her bishop.
I was subjected to a form of indoctrination where I eventually baulked. They wouldn’t have me, I asked too many questions. 
When you allow others to think for you, that is when the trouble begins in the mind, on a grand scale.
Your a special kind of idiot, aren’t you shield maided?
That picture was from the comedy movie “The Men Who Stare At Goats” as was my reference question. INTJs are notorious for having a very twisted and subtle sense of humor.
The exact source for this is our ability to mix schema… orthodox actions (left hemisphere, mortor control) with right hemisphere statements of identity (I am a Man, I am White, I am Six Feet… all disconnected facts I can identify with), under the right SMA (Well, kinda exaggerating there bud, more like 5’11 1/2, Momma didn’t feed you your Cheerios growing up, did she?) INTJ identifies with their actions (you here tried to identify me with your presumed grasp of my statement, my actions, in a larger scheme).
We can assert formulaic statements of normality, or abnormality, and twist the identifying elements… this causes laughter… see Aristotle and Bergson’s work on Comedy… follows basic formulas.
Now… you get to prove your a INTJ by watching this movie… the one I took the pic from and quoted… they stair at Goats killing them in a secret army project. It is a “comedy”, I wasn’t referencing myself, nor searching out your misplaced antagonism in regards to this. Purely a statement of mental telekinesis in turning things off via pop culture, a George Clooney Comedy. Take the stick out of your ass, didn’t think you would still be nursing the wound to your identity from last time. You made the mistake of self identifying with a whole country, and put it on a pedestool beyond the facts. Base your identity on yourself via your own accomplishments. Don’t be a twat.
(Apparently the Brits forgot to ship their Cheakiness with the convicts when they set up those prison colonies in Australia.)
(P.S.S… your usually wrong, so you need to reconsider your authority paradigm. Just saying)
TF wrote:
and so are you,
My post did not relate to any of what you said as it wasn’t meant to.
I took the opportunity to use ‘are you in the army’ purely to point out your obvious love of your interrupted sojourn in the army.
Interrupted as I am sure today you would still be Yes Sir, No Sir …ing, if you could.
It takes special kind of idiots who gravitate towards this and you TF are one also. 
I’m always wrong with people such as yourself, I wouldn’t expect anything else from you.
But what the heck, ‘Cheakiness’ is wrong.
Just saying.
back to my point, I still think it would go against the grain of most INTJ males.
From INTJ’s and the military
Authority per se does not impress the INTJ, but it seems to with you.
I could relate exactly the above to you.
Ok Ill check it out myself.
Experimentation on any other level than infantile simplicity never yields hermetic categories.
Astrology has operators rather than categories. Operators combine in patterns. There are more operators than any of these categorical tests can manage to incorporate, and indeed human nature is far more complex and potent than analytical psychologists can handle.
Categories are per definition transient and never apply absolutely.
Both astrology and value ontology consider being as a 4 dimensional matter, a being is a lifespan, the totality of activity that this being represents. Within any moment, the being is already an accumulation of its previous experiences. There is never a surface that represents the whole being, no single formula can describe someones behavior.
Description of behavior is the key issue. 4 dimensional models are required to map the phenomenon of behavior.
Behavior is recognized in terms of combinations of qualities.
For example: rugged determination, soft emotions, a fickle mind that stands ajar to these emotions but works like magic with the determination.
Or: impulsive initiative, exuberant emotions, a fixed mind that sustains both.
These are two strings you might lift out of an astrology chart. There would be myriad other strings to identify, but all strings tie into each other, therefore it is not necessary to do the impossible and know all things; rather we triangulate a possible behavior by projecting qualities against each other over time.
Gnosis which one can’t pin down [yet] due to the vast complexity of all the patterns in the world. Physics has a similar problem in that we are only just beginning to know what info is and how it works, the journey has only just began. I do think there will be a simple set of patterns or patterns to wit the rest emanate ~ i’m working on it.
FC
wholesome?!!! So if someone born into the given culture is different, you push them out? Because that’s what that dualistic philosophy does. We were speaking of how ‘the world is the means’ with all that entails – dynamically, yet now you are saying that a limited vision of the world is the means? That doesn’t sound like the same thing.
It wont end up as a ‘beige monoculture’ ~ singular, imho genes get more diverse the more you mix them, and not less.
What???
Why the hell would you conclude that?
What could possibl be wrong with wholesomeness?
I think you misunderstood me.
I just said or meant to communicate that to forge out of all human cultures and peoples one group, would be to create a horrible giant sickness.
All nuance would be lost, mankind would become a goo.
That is how I sense the nature of man: necessarily diverse.
It’s good to remember this is a career based test of your personality. You can still value aspects of your personality apart from the job course. I remind myself of that because my test result has me as the least likely to make money.
The test compares me to the likes of Shakespeare but more than likely I’ll die a starving artist. Yay, accurate.
This is the first time I read or heard that it is specifically aimed at career.