Code is the new literacy now.

[Moreno]

@luddites

@The Artful Pauper

Sure. Where did I say you can’t use a computer and be in touch with… the beach?

She’s not in touch with the beach.

[Moreno]

@luddites

Sure, idiotic language literacy has been putting people out of touch with reality also, but the changes in the last ten years are still there. I never saw 20 year old couples out on the town together, spending a weekend at a hotel, sitting in a restaurant, at a club together, both reading the newspaper. I could give many other kinds of examples. That image looks posed with the woman on the beach, but people do this. And they take photos with their phones of everything. when you take photos, like that, you notice less details. They live in ideas/categories, not specifics. The new digital techs are hardly the only ways one can disappear, not something I asserted, but we now have more and more intoxicating ways to not be present and they start early and the dissociation is increasing in speed.

And a photo of what people do while commuting is not a good example. You could have shown me a photo of people watching TV. Sure, other types of tech have added to people disappearing a little here and a little there. New tech is more portable, more addictive and now endemic.

[Moreno]

and they are probably also, while commuting, reading Metro or some other trash paper - iow one with less real journalism in them then the ones in those photos, but nice stories about entertainment figures and diet, sure. Reality is receding…

and from my empathy is declining thread…

sciencedaily.com/releases/20 … 094240.htm

UCLA scientists found that sixth-graders who went five days without even glancing at a smartphone, television or other digital screen did substantially better at reading human emotions than sixth-graders from the same school who continued to spend hours each day looking at their electronic devices.
“Many people are looking at the benefits of digital media in education, and not many are looking at the costs,” said Patricia Greenfield, a distinguished professor of psychology in the UCLA College and senior author of the study. “Decreased sensitivity to emotional cues – losing the ability to understand the emotions of other people – is one of the costs. The displacement of in-person social interaction by screen interaction seems to be reducing social skills.”

We should be waving to them, as if they were a ship pulling out from the pier, heading to what amounts to another world, a world not made of matter.

Shall we talk about the increases in sales of psychotropic medicines?

Bye, bye…

[luddites]

Translation: I want people to act how they used to act.

That type of expectation is pretty infantile. Like a kid trying to recreate a particularly good day, the next day. The parents can’t help but feel bad.

Fundamentally, you are simply baulking at change. Don’t do that. Change is all there is.

[luddites]

@Moreno

@luddites

@The Artful Pauper

Sure. Where did I say you can’t use a computer and be in touch with… the beach?

She’s not in touch with the beach.

So edgy.

[luddites]

New tech is more portable, more addictive and now endemic.

Yeah. You excited?

[Moreno]

@luddites

New tech is more portable, more addictive and now endemic.

Yeah. You excited?

Sometimes, but not by that.

[Moreno]

@luddites

So edgy.

I like this as a put down, I do. It made me smile the last time I saw it. But it doesn’t fit this post. If my post had an ego ideal, that wasn’t it.

Get one more oblique ironic compliment adjective and then you’ll be set.

Like for that post I think

‘Deep’

would have been a better shot.

Or perhaps…

Yeah, holistic, man.

You know imply some random shallow Weltanschauung on my part. It’d be shame on a stick at my house.

[luddites]

Yes, I did overuse it there.

[luddites]

I think that the essence of humanity is to keep going .

[Wizard]

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[Chakra_Superstar]

@Wizard

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[Wizard]

So you’re all illiterate???

Code is not new. Code is old. What does logic mean?

[Magnus_Anderson]

@luddites

I’m not even a programmer. Not really.

But I recognize the above to still be true.

Well, I can speak many programming languages, and I still fail to see how any of that is of any importance. I learned to program at the age of 8 but I did it because it was a fun little challenge, not because I wanted to be “literate” or whatever.

[Moreno]

Another way to look at the issue is that code, generally, is used to control outcomes with devices.
Language is used to communicate with other humans. This can be centered on control, but language offers a lot of other possibilities, including not relating to people like they are devices and learning from their wisdom and idiocy. Code is not social in this way and while it is participation or could be in culture, it is participation in a very limited part of it as a communicator/listener/reader. IOW to call code the new literacy is a kind of category error.

Code is the new source of power, sort of. For the individual that is questionable, though it fits for corporations.
Code is the new tool box, sure.

[iambiguous]

Of course no matter how code literate you are it doesn’t get you [or the computer] any closer to determining [objectively. essentially] how one ought to live. Although you may think that it does. And you may believe that it does.

Or is that enough?

[Moreno]

@iambiguous

Of course no matter how code literate you are it doesn’t get you [or the computer] any closer to determining [objectively. essentially] how one ought to live.

This would be true of language also, or?