Did The Romans Invent Jesus?

[Arminius]

@Otto_West

Did the Flavian Roman emporers invent christianity and Jesus?

The theory is that with the collapse of the Roman empire economically, militarily, and by invasions of the northern Germanic tribes Rome was in a dire situation to hold onto power concerning the whole of western Europe where the only way it could hold onto its power was through religious cultural dominance thus Christianity was invented by the Flavian emporers later put into law by that of Constantine. The other reason was to subdue the Roman conquered province of Judea which the Romans were having a problem with the religious Jews failing to accustom themselves with and resisting Roman imperial law. A new religion had to be created to counteract and compete against Judaism but also aligning itself submissively to Roman rule where christianity worked perfectly to that regard. Christianity worked so perfectly in pacifying the province of Judea that it was later decided to be adopted throughout the ancient Roman world itself at much cost of the indigenous pagan beliefs that became destroyed in the process.

Of course this wasn’t the first time a religion was created for purely socio economic and political reasons as in another thread we discuss how the origins of Judaism is that of ancient Egyptian Atenism.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=193062

Now how hilarious is that? Christianity plagiarized Judaism which itself was a plagiarization of an Egyptian pharoah cult. All in all I would say that is pretty funny pondering the whole ridiculousness of it.

Who helped the Flavian emporers fabicrate the creation of christianity? Why none other than Titus Josephus Flavius.

Whom better to fabricate the creation of christianity itself than a descendant of an Atenist themselves, right? A bonified Adonai worshipper! Now why would a Jew help the Romans create christianity? I mean that sounds absurd, ridiculous, and absurd, right? That sounds counterproductive to Judaism, right? Well, consider all the in roads have been made into christian Europe as Jewish merchants. You have a new testament connected to the old testament of ours! We’re brothers and sisters of the same god goyim! We do so well living amongst you!

Christianity has essentially pacified all Europeans (formerly pagans) so much under christian civic humanism that perhaps Titus Josephus Flavius forseen all of that deciding to himself that it could only aid future Jewry in the end. (He of course was unfortunately right.) In the end the creation of christianity under the Romans was just too good of an opportunity to be missed by Jewry itself and so a Jewish blessing was given in its aided creation.

Interesting.

[Meno2 (Meno_)]

Philosophically, the view that the Twilight of the Gods preceded that modern revisitation, accelerating by leaps and bounds, [Protestantism, Industrial Revolutoon, the political revolutions of the 18 th century all the product of the Enlightenment]- was due to the imminent collapse of the greatest Empire known until then, where the Gods had tremendous significance and social utility. That the collapse could not be held up by idols any longer, as supporting an imperium, socialism dressed up as an another evolved out of social consciousness.

That any political elite could have done this, is questionable, but what is not at all uncertain is, that the Christians supported an anti hero, one who transvalued society into a precursor of social values. This transformation only needed a mystical type of man, and it could have been anyone, feeling the pressures of social, political and economic change increasingly creating disturbance and hopelessness.

The dying gods had to resurrect in some other form, so a son was given to fit the role of redemption.

Sure , it seems cataclysmic, however hundreds of years of decay was plenty of time to develop it

Sounds familiar? This is not an opposite view of invention, only it reflects more of a.mold, into which some idea was borne into. It was thought up, but only through a very long and Extended time, where by authorship must have been more allusive socially, and molded around a single figure.

It could have been the primordial effort by a werary empire/emperor to disseminate and deconstruct responsibility and public discontent for a diminishing empire.

I the death of the Gods was never proclaimed textually, people connecting the glory of Rome with the agency of god, caused a social diminution of belief, in a society where religion and national grandeur were not mutually excluded.

[Jakob]

@Otto_West

Did the Flavian Roman emporers invent christianity and Jesus?

The theory is that with the collapse of the Roman empire economically, militarily, and by invasions of the northern Germanic tribes Rome was in a dire situation to hold onto power concerning the whole of western Europe where the only way it could hold onto its power was through religious cultural dominance thus Christianity was invented by the Flavian emporers later put into law by that of Constantine. The other reason was to subdue the Roman conquered province of Judea which the Romans were having a problem with the religious Jews failing to accustom themselves with and resisting Roman imperial law. A new religion had to be created to counteract and compete against Judaism but also aligning itself submissively to Roman rule where christianity worked perfectly to that regard. Christianity worked so perfectly in pacifying the province of Judea that it was later decided to be adopted throughout the ancient Roman world itself at much cost of the indigenous pagan beliefs that became destroyed in the process.

Of course this wasn’t the first time a religion was created for purely socio economic and political reasons as in another thread we discuss how the origins of Judaism is that of ancient Egyptian Atenism.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=193062

Now how hilarious is that? Christianity plagiarized Judaism which itself was a plagiarization of an Egyptian pharoah cult. All in all I would say that is pretty funny pondering the whole ridiculousness of it.

Who helped the Flavian emporers fabicrate the creation of christianity? Why none other than Titus Josephus Flavius.

Whom better to fabricate the creation of christianity itself than a descendant of an Atenist themselves, right? A bonified Adonai worshipper! Now why would a Jew help the Romans create christianity? I mean that sounds absurd, ridiculous, and absurd, right? That sounds counterproductive to Judaism, right? Well, consider all the in roads have been made into christian Europe as Jewish merchants. You have a new testament connected to the old testament of ours! We’re brothers and sisters of the same god goyim! We do so well living amongst you!

Christianity has essentially pacified all Europeans (formerly pagans) so much under christian civic humanism that perhaps Titus Josephus Flavius forseen all of that deciding to himself that it could only aid future Jewry in the end. (He of course was unfortunately right.) In the end the creation of christianity under the Romans was just too good of an opportunity to be missed by Jewry itself and so a Jewish blessing was given in its aided creation.

Cool aesthetics.