Jesus just a genius?

  1. your teacher was educated wrong so he or she educates you wrong.
    2.you went to church and was convinced by a book of lies and a room full of brainwashed people.
    3.your parents pray to god because they are educated stupid and born evil onlt timecube saves human existence.
    4.i am not easy to be convinced that a bunch of queers and lesbians
    are fearing there true human nature (being a gay person) that is righteous
    not usual anymore but righteous.
    5.the only virtue that is real is thou shalt not kill even though past civilizations
    grew insane from fake education and started eating eachother to death
    or cannaballism.
    6.dont drink the blood of christ they take the blood from a drunk person at the hospital.

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No, to me either he existed and was divine according to the bible, or he didn’t exist and a very clever bunch of people got together to have a bit of fun. And, if we are honest with ourselves, the former is much more likely than the latter.

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That’s just plain funny…I don’t care who you are.

Absolutely not. During the crusades, the ‘heathens’(middle eastern)being slaughtered in jesus name were far ahead of the christian nations in technology. Not to mention the chinese, who knew of astronomy and basic physics and even gunpowder while european nations were still swinging swords at eachother.
On the flipside, the technology ‘christianized’ nations do possess is less becuase dogmatic christian leaders do what they can to supress anything goes against their religion, or threatens it. IE stem cell research.

[b]Perhaps then Christianity at its roots served as a tool to STOP science?

Here’s a free thinker’s thought: Maybe Jesus was a gay lush who felt like most men in Roman society were all too butch and overbearing so he got some gay buddies together and figured out the best way to turn proud men into pussies! Ha! I’m funny. blppppp.[/b]

As Jung pointed out, what matters more than whether or not Jesus was what he said is that millions and millions of people across the last 2000 years think he is.

Dr S.

Are you kidding ? Because you find something signed by Argrata, you think Argrata existed ? That’s the best you can do ? Plus, if you want someone of that kind who didn’t write anything, take Socrate…

That’s exactly what I think : the only reason there is pretty much nobody to exclude those guies, is because they don’t bother anybody. But our egoistic tendancies are dangerously threaten by a guy called Jesus who said, with authority, the best thing you can do is to die for other. And did it. That, is quite dangerous for our little narrow view of life… That, must be taken away from our path, in order to sleep well with our little ego.

Marc

Hello Nientilin,

I don’t buy the notion that Jesus was some kind of “anti-Roman rebel”, a “Marxist before Karl Marx” or any such modern attempts to re-cast Jesus in a way that bears practically no resemblence to the figure we read about in the New Testament, or even the apocryhal/pseudonymous books of the early Christians.

This is not because I have a personal investment in the New Testament, but rather because I don’t see what option we have (if we are going to be speaking of “Jesus of Nazareth”) other than to accept or not accept what such works have to say - as opposed to pulling things out of thin air, which is (when all is said and done) what most modern pseudo-scholars and controversialists tend to do when they say they want to speak of the “historical Jesus.”

While I see the utility of “critical approaches” to the New Testament (and I mean of the genuine kind, not the sensationalist nonsense from groups like the “Jesus seminar”), I have to say that I think even these are often polluted by the political/social tides.

For example, I see no reason to doubt that it was fundamentally the Jewish religious authorities and not the Romans who were responsible for the arrest and execution of Jesus. Besides the fact that Jewish religious tomes like the Talmud essentially “take the blame” for Jesus’ execution (but make it clear that they regarded him as a false prophet/heretic, and thus deserving of such a fate), I don’t think it’s at all surprising that the religious authorities in Jerusalem acted as they did - for the behaviour was not peculiarly “Jewish” in this regard, as it was (unfortunately) quite predictable of human beings. History is filled with dissenters and “heretics” who put a scare into the minders of political/religious orthodoxy in their day and age; not because they were raising armies or plotting violent revolution, but simply because said authorities had big problems with what these thoughtful imps were saying. Socrates immediately comes to mind.

Unfortunately, over-sensitivity toward the whole subject of “anti-semitism” is what is really behind attempts to shift the blame. On the other hand, the basic scenario put forward in the New Testament (a Roman procurator ruling an unruly people very much prone to violent uprisings, who up to that point was having little luck in his dealings with them, being coerced into going along with the Judaic priestcraft in their designs against Jesus via the threat that it would be unflattering if Caesar heard that one of his vicegerants was letting a man claiming to be a “king” wander about unmolested on Roman soil) is not very hard to believe. Indeed, the more one understands about the problems in Judea at the time of Jesus and into the beginning of the second century (ex. the rise of Bar Kochba, etc.), the more it becomes hard to swallow that Pontius Pilate would be more threatened by a man who was in many respects a Judaic-Stoic than by a people whose religion (and fanatics, like “the zealots”) would have seemend awfully backward and “Taliban-like”.

IF jesus or 666 was alive he was a tool
of his time not some kinda awsome rock
star back in the day (i take offense to calling jesus an elvis)
count how many times did people come to
him only to use him for his unearthly powers
plus as the SON of god the dude is equally
matched against the anti-christ or HIMSELF
christians and satanists pray to the same thing they hate
god offers
satan offers
christ died
anti-christ will rise
and god will rise again

hello notice the chance of decieiving himself
and being angry at himself for no reason
it adds up satan is of god’s sins supposely
god was in a race like humans but not humans
and they sent him down to a pit where he rose and
was forced to our space & time so he brought his anger
from them sending him away as a sacrifice to keep their
race alive and TIME OVERLAPSE christ on the cross as a
sacrifice for his own sins replaced with the words “our sins”
see its adding up and when he annihaltes his anger or satan
and his lies or anti-christ then he will be able to go back to
the place from which he came leaving humanity to ponder in pain and enlightenment wich he will bring with him from OUR UNIVERSE
so time lapse again and the race he is from will be offered as he kills
them for sending him away from THEIR UNIVERSE so it adds up
with a lil story PAST REVALATIONS AND BEFORE GENESIS
yes i have wrote it and it lies here at the home of the time mage matt
:d

oh yeah evryone i would’nt call the dude a genius if all he did was be used by random people here and there that’s what you call a short life.