We’re not in an eternal loop, nitsche was wrong, get over it. You’re playing word games with consent violation to try to sound sophisticated…
Consent violations are not a word game
We’re not in an eternal loop, nitsche was wrong, get over it. You’re playing word games with consent violation to try to sound sophisticated…
Consent violations are not a word game
Artimas: Ecmandu:We never die.
I’ve given this proof many times.
If our continuity of consciousness EVER die, we are just a subset of that continuity, meaning that it’s impossible for us to be here now
We are on an eternal loop of pain but the ego can die, it ceases to exist with interaction in a present moment, future and past of the identity may be carried on through genetics/memory. Subconscious has no differentiation of time and is a collection of ancestry in the unconscious, depends on how you define death, we definitely cease in present moment interaction as unique identities.
We’re not in an eternal loop, nitsche was wrong, get over it. You’re playing word games with consent violation to try to sound sophisticated…
Consent violations are not a word game
The subconscious/unconscious and objective evolution shows otherwise, that we are on a loop. There is no ceasing of experiencing. Only experiencing as unique diverse identities.
What do you gain from showing reality as inherently evil if anything? If that were the case.
Ya don’t know if ya like or dislike something until it happens, right? The attributing value occurs /after/ or /while/ something happens, consent implies giving an ok beforehand which sometimes situations are more complex than that.
This is outside of value attributed to existence objectively by existing itself, existence is the only objective value.
What of the teen girl or boy whom wants to try something new so they consent ok then change their mind due to their ascribing of value in their now current predicament?
We don’t ascribe value until after knowing and if one doesn’t understand what they know then they are ignorant, so then when and where does evil come forth if one doesn’t understand implications of their own desires/intent?
Oh sure, I wanted to be stabbed in my liver by someone.
Stop playing games here.
Adults know what consent violation is: you’re arguing like a child
Artimas:Ya don’t know if ya like or dislike something until it happens, right? The attributing value occurs /after/ or /while/ something happens, consent implies giving an ok beforehand which sometimes situations are more complex than that.
This is outside of value attributed to existence objectively by existing itself, existence is the only objective value.
What of the teen girl or boy whom wants to try something new so they consent ok then change their mind due to their ascribing of value in their now current predicament?
We don’t ascribe value until after knowing and if one doesn’t understand what they know then they are ignorant, so then when and where does evil come forth if one doesn’t understand implications of their own desires/intent?
Oh sure, I wanted to be stabbed in my liver by someone.
Stop playing games here.
Adults know what consent violation is: you’re arguing like a child
Yes adults do and adults also want to participate in their suppressed unconscious desires which sometimes prove satisfactory for both the victim and ‘violator’ even when a violation of consent occurs, where does bdsm come from then? Stockholm syndrome?
Consent is dependent upon value of which value happens after a situation, so then how can one truly and whole heartedly consent with an understanding before a knowing is acquired?
I don’t advocate for everyone else’s desires and not even my own as I can see through that it’s illusory and all based from fear and pain.
I’m not interested in proving you wrong, I am interested in helping you correlate an understanding based off self and objective reality without any bias.
Lol! “Objective evolution” and “eternal loops” are the exact opposite concepts.
I need to be frank with you Artimas, you bragged on these boards about your elevated searing intelligence recently … you’re young
I have 2 decades of being the personal student of god, death, devil and Buddha …
Now, I said earlier here that I don’t believe in god, the Buddha is the best teacher, it’s just gods karma, god is not the creator of everything.
You don’t have all that training
Lol! “Objective evolution” and “eternal loops” are the exact opposite concepts.
I need to be frank with you Artimas, you bragged on these boards about your elevated searing intelligence recently … you’re young
I have 2 decades of being the personal student of god, death, devil and Buddha …
You don’t
Opposite concepts and both exist. Existence is balance of two extremes. Opposites are usually two extremes of which one, I would advise, should seek a balance between any and all extremes.
Objective reality/evolution is a dream of a dream, we’re now the dreamer in a dream of which the objective dream isn’t ours but gave us power to dream as well, subjectively.
Ecmandu:Lol! “Objective evolution” and “eternal loops” are the exact opposite concepts.
I need to be frank with you Artimas, you bragged on these boards about your elevated searing intelligence recently … you’re young
I have 2 decades of being the personal student of god, death, devil and Buddha …
You don’t
Opposite concepts and both exist. Existence is balance of two extremes. Opposites are usually two extremes of which one, I would advise, should seek a balance between any and all extremes.
Objective reality/evolution is a dream of a dream, we’re now the dreamer in a dream.
Existence has never been a balance of two extremes, existence is quite simply “otherness” … not “opposites”
Again, you sound like a garden variety Christian apologist
Artimas: Ecmandu:Lol! “Objective evolution” and “eternal loops” are the exact opposite concepts.
I need to be frank with you Artimas, you bragged on these boards about your elevated searing intelligence recently … you’re young
I have 2 decades of being the personal student of god, death, devil and Buddha …
You don’t
Opposite concepts and both exist. Existence is balance of two extremes. Opposites are usually two extremes of which one, I would advise, should seek a balance between any and all extremes.
Objective reality/evolution is a dream of a dream, we’re now the dreamer in a dream.
Existence has never been a balance of two extremes, existence is quite simply “otherness” … not “opposites”
Again, you sound like a garden variety Christian apologist
Otherness? Dark and light are opposites and formed a balance, I mean I guess you can call that otherness, extremes still evolve into other extremes of which create balances, regardless. It doesn’t matter if it’s three or four extremes you want to call “otherness” there will be a one balance between all four if such was the case.
Oh wait, there is… us… fire, water, air and earth.
There is nothing to brag about either, you can be at the same level of understanding or better than I am at. Through being unbiased and understanding for the sake of such.
If I brag it would mean I am separated from you completely, which I am not.
surreptitious75:Evil is too strong a word to use for consent violation and anyway sometimes it is perfectly justifiable such as trying to save someones life for example
Also existence is simply the natural order of the Universe so it cannot be evil because that would imply all life is evil simply by virtue of it being aliveIts the problem of evil put forth by everyone that argues against god I dont believe in god but I think that there are alternatives to reality
that if not manifest prove that reality is inherently evilYou are the equivalent of a Christian apologist here
Children getting buttraped and catching aids in Uganda is totally cool with you
Check your fucking head
Nice strawman you have erected there as I never said nothing about justifying rape or AIDS and didnt imply it in anyway at all
The choices of human beings are not the natural order of the Universe which is the laws of physics in action and nothing else
Maybe its your head that needs to be checked
Ecmandu: surreptitious75:Evil is too strong a word to use for consent violation and anyway sometimes it is perfectly justifiable such as trying to save someones life for example
Also existence is simply the natural order of the Universe so it cannot be evil because that would imply all life is evil simply by virtue of it being aliveIts the problem of evil put forth by everyone that argues against god I dont believe in god but I think that there are alternatives to reality
that if not manifest prove that reality is inherently evilYou are the equivalent of a Christian apologist here
Children getting buttraped and catching aids in Uganda is totally cool with you
Check your fucking head
Nice strawman you have erected there as I never said nothing about justifying rape or AIDS and didnt imply it in anyway at all
The choices of human beings are not the natural order of the Universe which is the laws of physics in action and nothing elseMaybe its your head that needs to be checked
Physics and psyche I’d say. Since conscious psyche developed from an objective functioning sub/unconscious psyche.
The cosmos is not a balance of light and dark.
Light won.
You see, back in the primordial soup, matter and antimatter warred … matter kicked antimatters ass.
That’s why we’re here.
It’s not 50/50. Matter actually kicked antimatters ass.
Light won.
Moral choices involve free will and choice by definition cannot be ordered
Even moreso given that not all such choices are easy black and white ones
Ecmandu: surreptitious75:Evil is too strong a word to use for consent violation and anyway sometimes it is perfectly justifiable such as trying to save someones life for example
Also existence is simply the natural order of the Universe so it cannot be evil because that would imply all life is evil simply by virtue of it being aliveIts the problem of evil put forth by everyone that argues against god I dont believe in god but I think that there are alternatives to reality
that if not manifest prove that reality is inherently evilYou are the equivalent of a Christian apologist here
Children getting buttraped and catching aids in Uganda is totally cool with you
Check your fucking head
Nice strawman you have erected there as I never said nothing about justifying rape or AIDS and didnt imply it in anyway at all
The choices of human beings are not the natural order of the Universe which is the laws of physics in action and nothing elseMaybe its your head that needs to be checked
You said that evil is too strong a word for consent violation, when it is a fact that it is the definition of consent violation.
Your fuckup not mine.
The cosmos is not a balance of light and dark.
Light won.
You see, back in the primordial soup, matter and antimatter warred … matter kicked antimatters ass.
That’s why we’re here.
It’s not 50/50. Matter actually kicked antimatters ass.
Light won.
Then why is there still darkness? What’s dark matter if not dark, what about black holes that can bend or suck light up?
I think darkness is necessary, there has to be both for a balance or existence to function as.
What is not known could be considered darkness, could it not?
Moral choices involve free will and choice by definition cannot be ordered
Even moreso given that not all such choices are easy black and white ones
Consent violation is always black and white for the individual. It is also self empowerment for them"wait! My consent was violated, that’s evil!"
I see a psychopathic authoritarian dictator in you “nah, consent violation is cool, bit of people declare it, they don’t know what they’re talking about.”
Ecmandu:The cosmos is not a balance of light and dark.
Light won.
You see, back in the primordial soup, matter and antimatter warred … matter kicked antimatters ass.
That’s why we’re here.
It’s not 50/50. Matter actually kicked antimatters ass.
Light won.
Then why is there still darkness? What’s dark matter if not dark, what about black holes that can bend or suck light up?
I think darkness is necessary, there has to be both for a balance or existence to function as.
What is not known could be considered darkness, could it not?
Darkness is otherness, not lights opposite.
Artimas: Ecmandu:The cosmos is not a balance of light and dark.
Light won.
You see, back in the primordial soup, matter and antimatter warred … matter kicked antimatters ass.
That’s why we’re here.
It’s not 50/50. Matter actually kicked antimatters ass.
Light won.
Then why is there still darkness? What’s dark matter if not dark, what about black holes that can bend or suck light up?
I think darkness is necessary, there has to be both for a balance or existence to function as.
What is not known could be considered darkness, could it not?
Darkness is otherness, not lights opposite.
How is darkness the otherness when it was first? Consciousness being proof of that on a micro level to the universes macro level.
The Universe functions just the same regardless of the moral choices of human beings
This is why its existence cannot be evil and why its therefore wrong to imply that it is
The Universe functions just the same regardless of the moral choices of human beings
This is why its existence cannot be evil and why its therefore wrong to imply that it is
It would function the same without us and our values/inventions. We are just possibilities of it and may expand possibilities in it, consciously now.
The only objective value is existence itself due to existing in the first place, regardless of consciousness, even if one doesn’t understand such.