Sexocracy

I believe John Berger said something to the same effect, but its not people, only of women.
Men act, Women appear.

“To be born a woman has to be born, within an allotted and confined space, into the keeping of men. The social presence of women is developed as a result of their ingenuity in living under such tutelage within such a limited space. But this has been at the cost of a woman’s self being split into two. A woman must continually watch herself. She is almost continually accompanied by her own image of herself. Whilst she is walking across a room or whilst she is weeping at the death of her father, she can scarcely avoid envisaging herself walking or weeping. From earliest childhood she has been taught and persuaded to survey herself continually. And so she comes to consider the surveyor and the surveyed within her as the two constituent yet always distinct elements of her identity as a woman. She has to survey everything she is and everything she does because how she appears to men, is of crucial importance for what is normally thought of as the success of her life. Her own sense of being in herself is supplanted by a sense of being appreciated as herself by another…One might simplify this by saying: men act and women appear. Men look at women. Women watch themselves being looked at. This determines not only most relations between men and women but also the relation of women to themselves. The surveyor of woman in herself is male: the surveyed female. Thus she turns herself into an object – and most particularly an object of vision: a sight.”

Going by writing style… Are you twbb?

You’re right that I’m an underachiever. I have the means, just lack ambition :wink:

Interesting… I would say that these days such goes for many men as well. Feminization and all that.

This is a most singular and odd post. Shame I did not find it before.
There is a major category completely missing here.
Who allocates and determines the status level of any one person?
Obviously someone would have to determine such qualities as “criminal”, or who was "the most respected and adored members ".
The other big question would be why on earth would any SSP, being at the highest level of society, actually want to allow themselves to be fucked by all others. To provide this ridiculous utopia, the SSP would have to be in a state of perpetual slavery.

I assume this equal2u person is a hit and run?

Although the statement “Men act, Women appear” is largely true, Berger got his causation wrong. Women were not merely taught to be that way by society. The Jungle environment required women to be the way they are and men to be the way they are, having nothing at all to do with society. Women are genetically prone to be self-conscious. But that is only one part of the split persona.

Not only is the mind genetically prone to be divided, but so is the “heart”. The female was genetically formed to be both ultra careful and sensitive of any contact, but also in need of it. She had to be both very defensive and also conquerable.

Blaming society for the state of the female genes is merely a clever way of usurping authority to change it without their permission, nor yours.

What utter nonsense.
Where do you get these odd ideas from?
Are you not getting any at the moment?

What utter nonsense.
Where do you get these odd ideas from?
Are you not getting any at the moment?

Perhaps you’d like a cracker?

Perhaps you would like to learn to think and philosophize. Granted, it isn’t for all people, but then again, this IS a philosophy site, not a playground for mindless social rejects who can’t say anything but ad hom programmed responses (actually more for thinking social rejects who often have to struggle to not spew ad homs).

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. And ILP has more than its share. So consider not adding to the overabundance.

If you were half as smart as you think you are, you might have the balls to defend some of the bollocks that you type.
You see philosophy is a good deal more than spitting out the first belch of feelings that bump into your fore-brain. The idea is that you present your ideas to defend and adapt them as necessary.
That way you get to examine your own ideas through an open and honest exchange to see if they are worthwhile or stand up to criticism.
But you never seem to find your balls, and thus most of what you say is only worthy of scorn.

The latest offering is the usual adolescent misogynistic, teleologically poisonous half digested naturalistic fallacy of evolutionary psychology schtick that can be put down like a 15 year old dog, that has lost to the power of continence.

Am I going to fast for you?

These people belong to the working category. That… would seem pretty obvious.

To get the highest status and luxury. That also seems pretty obvious. In the real world, people become prostitutes with far worse prospect than being a most respected member of society.

True. Not as obvious as the other things Lev got furious about, but pretty self-evident as well in a more synthetic way.

So James what’s your take on the Sexocracy? Sex seems to be the most powerful means to manipulate whole populations, so if its thrown into the open as a fundamental good, what happens?

Maybe if the population has all their other needs met… but if they were starving, I’ll bet they’d choose food over sex any day.

You have not begun to understand my objection.

You either do not get the proposal or can’t imagine how it could never work.

Sneaky, sneaky. But you never explained what that achivement would be. So?

Not acceptable. Warning issued.

Each individual decides what status he/she wishes to take according to what is possible. If he/she is beautiful enough then they have the option of becoming an SSP or working and gaining luxury status, or not working and gaining standard status. A person not beautiful enough to become an SSP can choose to work and gain luxury status or not work and gain standard status. Each individual determines his/her own status according to their capabilities unless they are convicted of a serious crime in which case they are placed on rehab status.

Obviously the acts of murder, rape, theft, assault, robbery, arson and criminal damage would be classified as crime as in any other rational society. Obviously in the Sexocracy the laws around the selling of sex are different from many societies. Also drug laws are very different. Heroin, cocaine, ecstasy, cannabis and other drugs are all legally traded and possessed as well as alcohol, caffeine and nicotine.

No one ‘determines’ that the SSPs are the most respected and adored members of society. That happens naturally because everyone loves the SSPs because they fulfill people’s desires and make them happy.

SSP stands for sexual service provider. To be an SSP they have to allow themselves to be fucked by others. A sexual service provider who doesn’t allow herself to be fucked by others isn’t providing much of a sexual service is she? It is not slavery because at any time an SSP wishes to no longer be an SSP they can quit. No one is forced to be an SSP. It’s a job they can take just like any other, only with a higher level of reward.

Thank you Bible salesman.