Tales From Being Homeless

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Just give him cash, sl+t, just give him money without asking questions ok ? who cares if “you work hard for your money”, I hate you and your “hard work”, I want your cash for free, I like freeloaders, I like robbing cash from people who “work hard” for their cash, I like the fight, the contrast, give me all your cash slob, you turd, etc. No morality here, no “justice” here, it is just me and my desires and my will power against yours, and I want to win like a cry baby, who cares if I am wrong and “if everyone were like you the entire society would fall apart”, that is what I want, I want to win, that’s all, you work and be my slave, I want all your cash. After all, this is exactly what Capitalism, the Free Market and all the right wing “hard work” mentality is all about even though they put it upside down and always blame the workers and those that are doing the real “hard work” as being freeloaders and lazy and wanting the union and such (but who cares, I hate right and wrong dicotomies and morality and people and all things social and political).

And then those right Wing Thugs that always chant about their hard work think they are saying something new and interesting and important: this BS of their Hard Work is just them saying “Oh look how egotistical I am, how I want to keep it all for myself and want to feel smug and morally correct and justified” and all such crap, they think they are expressing something intelligent and important when they are just expressing their basic turdy instinct, the Man Brain at its worst being a thug and fighting, they are expressing the stupidest and the oldest fashion concept, I want mine, I am better than you, I don’t want to give you all my stuff for free because I “worked hard” for it, what turds, just punch them in the face and take it away from them, the turds, they want theirs, kill their morality, their idea of correct, their idea of “Objective Laws”, the slaves, be a thug and criminal, no refrain anymore, just let it All Hang Out.

Please all freeloaders, rob the cash from all those hard working thugs, beat them up, kill morality, don’t be afraid, just be honest with yourself.

Be Wrong and always be on the Wrong Side, make fun of them and their logic and all, try to win losers…

The basis is always A against B, A says the opposite of B, A fights B, A as opposed to B, but both A and B are defined accordingly, are only reciprocally defined and exist only as the opposite of the other, there is no stable middle ground, no objective reference system, the two are each other’s reference system and as such are equivalent and both wrong or right (no absolute here, no solution here, no Truth here as truth can’t exist when the two items are reciprocally defined and as they can be combined in one item made up of two items, the one item is just a quirk, an arbitrary design, an arbitrary turd, a useless random chaotic piece of crap and piece of nothing and having no meaning and no value, etc.), only the stronger force wins by sheer force and power.

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I walk around all day, and then find a internet cafe, like the other million homeless in this country. The only incondistency is on your end pretending to have a education and not grasping logistics. I need to charge this sucker up and do job searches. We dint have access to 3 million in dormant bullshit funds like you for a non existent need anymore, which you openly admit you and your husband ran for political office to grasp. Its your job to push the logistical awareness of what your sitting on, and where the pressing need in society is. That money can be used to get many people back on their feet, or prevent home forclisures, etc. You systematically chosen a path that requires no motivation or progress forward.

Lets turn the magnifying glass on your criminal nature and roast you for a while. How many people have you certainly saved the life of? I have 1 confirmed absolute. How many have you gotten off the street? I have Three with absolure certainty. How many have you stayed up with in a emergency room half the night, making sure he was compentently diagnosed and given a plan for having surgery? How many greyhound fairs have you paid for
someone to return home. How much food from your own dwindling stock have you given to the hungry? Have you shown people safe places to sleep? Have you comforted the inconsolable? Heard a mans delusions out to come to terms with the kernal of his pains? Have you seen someone who was hysteric and didnt belong in the least in their situation and engineer a way out for them? I can account for doing these things, before and then during my time on the streets. A character of a person isnt tested from spacial distancing or abstraction, but the concrete actions of engadging a dynamic and dangerous world. I have failed at times. I saw first hand the heartbreak of a entire people at the height of their torment. I saw men by the thousands fail in love and relationships all at the same time. I also have seen entire neighborhoods populated by non breeders hogging the last once of economic liquidity as the poor were tormented and fucked with. Utopian universities as insulated as you can imagine seperated from the pain around them… whose students only labor was working a cafe with multiple piercings and then followed up by a job poorly educating the youth, or similar bullshit, non effective government job… ehos sole exposure to the poor was the bus or train the took to class,or the door lock they click whenever one crosses a corner they are waiting a red light on.

And you wonder why your class is systemmatically dying off, as if it was the movie ‘Children of Men’. Look at the meat grinder that is Vancouver… everyone is disengadged from their reality, from their society, by the carrot on the stick of socialism and security. The population statistics are frightening, the current population is systemmatically dying off. From simply not reproducing anywhere near enough to maintain population stability. I assure you, a angry distrustful hobo like Walker isnt going to make this mistake. And yet a large part of our highly disfunctional population is doung just that. Once, it was just places like The Castro in San Francisco… now it doesnt even come close to beingbthe top. We have in the heart of every city a decadent, perverted core that puts all its trust and promises in going after the rewards and job placements they were promised since school, and then proceed to non reproduce, or if they do, the kids always deformed and dying of cancer. There were no deformed kids dying of cancer in my neighborhood growing up because my neighborhood never attracted such degenerates in the first place. We are a much more impassioned and penetrating population.

Right now, were going through a massive darwinian selection. My line and walkers prove philosophy and intellectual studies will not die off in our community. If anything, its dying off in your class… the fear, rejection, and xenophobia is systematically reducing that very community. Your gated communities is reducingbthe scope and ratio viability to compete. Your logic, syllogisms, and retreat to a so called orthodox reasoning will not stem the tide. You and your people want to die. Its comming, and every ecxuse you offer to the otherwise is irrevelent. Your dying… in the meantime, appreciate the peace we let you die in… for other, wiser civilizations would of slaughtered your lot by now, and dont annoy us with your point of view or crying as to why we cant fit into your system and succeed in it like you. Its because on a genetic and instinctive level, we knew not to submit, to sign away our lives, to persue our own damn the consequences. The reward? Our descendents get the cities, and yours get the nirvana of extinction from never existing.

Enough of your excuses and inconsiderations, your distancing and conservation of direct, meaningful action. Damn your professional beuracracies, your abortions aimed at the poor and the carrots you sickos dangle before us. Were quite capable of advancing minus you. We built this country from the sweat of our labor, the felling of trees and the mining and cattle runs and breaking feral dirt into agricultural gold. It wasnt till your paracite of a species arouse that tried to systemmatise it all, causing dustbowls in the prarie or the dtying up of the aral sea. But dear god, glibal warming thats been happening since the last iceage is suddenly the new religion everyone needs to change every aspect of ourselves and hide in eco isolated gated communities or ultra rural satillite communities outside of the city core with. Fuck that. Nothing is going in my ass, I will not go and get a masters degree so I can teach what I already know to those who can never be, or die in fear and isolation for the sake of a den of aesthetic serenity. Its a disturbing way to live. Iblive the way my ancestors have since the beginning of time. My instincts are sound, and my depth of grasping the circumstances around me without paralell given my dedication to inquiry, direct study and systemmatic intervention. I am doing something absolutely incredible with my life. Men will enormously profit in the future from my pains and trial now to enact what I came here for. You… what will mankind reap from your life, your existence? What have your given and and persued for a better world? How have you sweated, labored, and repressed for it? How have your neighbors? Do not begin to judge men like me and walker. We are your future, and you can offer us nothing in return.

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I walk around all day, and then find a internet cafe, like the other million homeless in this country. The only incondistency is on your end pretending to have a education and not grasping logistics. I need to charge this sucker up and do job searches. We dint have access to 3 million in dormant bullshit funds like you for a non existent need anymore, which you openly admit you and your husband ran for political office to grasp. Its your job to push the logistical awareness of what your sitting on, and where the pressing need in society is. That money can be used to get many people back on their feet, or prevent home forclisures, etc. You systematically chosen a path that requires no motivation or progress forward.

Lets turn the magnifying glass on your criminal nature and roast you for a while. How many people have you certainly saved the life of? I have 1 confirmed absolute. How many have you gotten off the street? I have Three with absolure certainty. How many have you stayed up with in a emergency room half the night, making sure he was compentently diagnosed and given a plan for having surgery? How many greyhound fairs have you paid for
someone to return home. How much food from your own dwindling stock have you given to the hungry? Have you shown people safe places to sleep? Have you comforted the inconsolable? Heard a mans delusions out to come to terms with the kernal of his pains? Have you seen someone who was hysteric and didnt belong in the least in their situation and engineer a way out for them? I can account for doing these things, before and then during my time on the streets. A character of a person isnt tested from spacial distancing or abstraction, but the concrete actions of engadging a dynamic and dangerous world. I have failed at times. I saw first hand the heartbreak of a entire people at the height of their torment. I saw men by the thousands fail in love and relationships all at the same time. I also have seen entire neighborhoods populated by non breeders hogging the last once of economic liquidity as the poor were tormented and fucked with. Utopian universities as insulated as you can imagine seperated from the pain around them… whose students only labor was working a cafe with multiple piercings and then followed up by a job poorly educating the youth, or similar bullshit, non effective government job… ehos sole exposure to the poor was the bus or train the took to class,or the door lock they click whenever one crosses a corner they are waiting a red light on.

And you wonder why your class is systemmatically dying off, as if it was the movie ‘Children of Men’. Look at the meat grinder that is Vancouver… everyone is disengadged from their reality, from their society, by the carrot on the stick of socialism and security. The population statistics are frightening, the current population is systemmatically dying off. From simply not reproducing anywhere near enough to maintain population stability. I assure you, a angry distrustful hobo like Walker isnt going to make this mistake. And yet a large part of our highly disfunctional population is doung just that. Once, it was just places like The Castro in San Francisco… now it doesnt even come close to beingbthe top. We have in the heart of every city a decadent, perverted core that puts all its trust and promises in going after the rewards and job placements they were promised since school, and then proceed to non reproduce, or if they do, the kids always deformed and dying of cancer. There were no deformed kids dying of cancer in my neighborhood growing up because my neighborhood never attracted such degenerates in the first place. We are a much more impassioned and penetrating population.

Right now, were going through a massive darwinian selection. My line and walkers prove philosophy and intellectual studies will not die off in our community. If anything, its dying off in your class… the fear, rejection, and xenophobia is systematically reducing that very community. Your gated communities is reducingbthe scope and ratio viability to compete. Your logic, syllogisms, and retreat to a so called orthodox reasoning will not stem the tide. You and your people want to die. Its comming, and every ecxuse you offer to the otherwise is irrevelent. Your dying… in the meantime, appreciate the peace we let you die in… for other, wiser civilizations would of slaughtered your lot by now, and dont annoy us with your point of view or crying as to why we cant fit into your system and succeed in it like you. Its because on a genetic and instinctive level, we knew not to submit, to sign away our lives, to persue our own damn the consequences. The reward? Our descendents get the cities, and yours get the nirvana of extinction from never existing.

Enough of your excuses and inconsiderations, your distancing and conservation of direct, meaningful action. Damn your professional beuracracies, your abortions aimed at the poor and the carrots you sickos dangle before us. Were quite capable of advancing minus you. We built this country from the sweat of our labor, the felling of trees and the mining and cattle runs and breaking feral dirt into agricultural gold. It wasnt till your paracite of a species arouse that tried to systemmatise it all, causing dustbowls in the prarie or the dtying up of the aral sea. But dear god, glibal warming thats been happening since the last iceage is suddenly the new religion everyone needs to change every aspect of ourselves and hide in eco isolated gated communities or ultra rural satillite communities outside of the city core with. Fuck that. Nothing is going in my ass, I will not go and get a masters degree so I can teach what I already know to those who can never be, or die in fear and isolation for the sake of a den of aesthetic serenity. Its a disturbing way to live. Iblive the way my ancestors have since the beginning of time. My instincts are sound, and my depth of grasping the circumstances around me without paralell given my dedication to inquiry, direct study and systemmatic intervention. I am doing something absolutely incredible with my life. Men will enormously profit in the future from my pains and trial now to enact what I came here for. You… what will mankind reap from your life, your existence? What have your given and and persued for a better world? How have you sweated, labored, and repressed for it? How have your neighbors? Do not begin to judge men like me and walker. We are your future, and you can offer us nothing in return.

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ead the blog, all of it:

instantsingularity1.blogspot.it/

and

instantsingularity3.blogspot.it/

THE EIGHT MAN HAS SPOKEN ONCE AGAIN

and read all of nameta9 post on www.ilovephilosophy.com, inside out, very carefully, you have your “Hard Work” cut out for you, and study it all very carefully…

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Well said Contra and Nameta.

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Do not fucking talk to me anymore. I do not like being talked down to and I am sick of your bullshit replies to everything I have to say.

I have no respect for your arrogant conservative mind set.

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Thank you all. I’d like to be able to change the style of my writing–and I’ll certainly try to–so as not to come across as ‘condescending’ or dogmatic, or presumptuous, or any of the words you’ve used.

But I would like to set some things straight–for the record–

I’ve never said anything about ‘hard work,’ or how hard work leads to success;
I don’t live in a gated community–I live in a small town that’s pretty much built out so it can’t grow larger. My neighbors have all raised, or are raising, multiple children. Our Town is multiracial;
Many of us supplement our diets with what we’ve grown ourselves;
We’ve never run for public office. My husband and I are water commissioners, which happens to be an elected position. It’s voluntary (although elected) and there’s no salary involved;
I don’t give money to street beggars, because I usually don’t carry cash. We use our one and only credit card for all our purchases which puts a limit on what we spend since we pay off the total monthly;
I learned about the fraud that can go on from my former dentist. He did pro bono dental work on an extended south Asian family, then learned that they’d purchased lake front property. On the other hand, I’ve tried to help the homeless by offering them simple jobs like helping me with garage sales, cutting the grass, etc., but they weren’t interested–and, again, I learned that some of them had earned enough money through pan-handling to buy homes;
I don’t know how many people have benefited from the food drives I’ve given to, or the Toys for Tots local programs I’ve been a part of. I do know that we give monthly money to organized charities through automatic withdrawals. The charities we’ve chosen are the ones who take the least for operating expenses. And the charities themselves limit any participation to money only donations;

I could go on, but I really don’t have to justify my life. I’m a registered Democrat–far from a right-wing conservative–although our Town is predominantly Republican. But no one I know here is right-wing or neocon at all.

When I first read your posts, I thought of them as personal rants against the Establishment. I still hope they were; you were certainly mistaken in your understanding of me, if they were directed at me, personally.

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IDLE TIME

There has never been a time in history when people have had the least possible real work to do, millions of people totally idle and living da vida, and in fact what is left is status games, power struggles, and the value of past work in the form of real estate, and in fact this present economic crisis was born from the real estate prices going up in the USA and hosing everyone: but there is a reason, since nothing else of any value is being produced anymore (can be produced anymore as the Technological Economy has eliminated any real work for most of the USA, EU and JAPAN and is marching on to eliminate it in China, Brazil, etc. through Automation, Economy of Scales, Technology applied to producing goods with as little labor as possible and such, etc.), since no labor can give any return anymore, no matter how hard they all try to fake it in their fake comic book world of “Hard Work” in the Skyscrapers (always “working” 24 hours a day, always checking emails, always meetings, always talking, never really producing anything of any value except hot air and make believe activities, the less real work they all have to do the harder they have to fake it and invent all kinds of “problems” and “emergencies” and arbitrary schedules and arbitrary fake “make work” just to show that they are actually doing something, like tons of useless documents, tons of useless computer programs, tons of lawyers and fights, and conflicts and the myth of flexibility, always changing everything to produce activity and not get bored to death, and the myth of competition and all such crap, WHEN OUR PRESENT DAY ECONOMIC SYSTEM HAS ALMOST ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH ANY KIND OF WORK AT ALL, GO FIGURE), the only thing that is really left is fights and Conflicts and beating up each other like bored little children who really have nothing to do but want "To Blame it Someone To get back " and such.

And in fact, the less real work there is left to do the more the fights and conflicts will increase, the more the debates will increase, the political fights and debates and all, simply because since they can’t figure out why on earth there is no longer any real work left to do, since they can’t accept and abide to the Structural Change a Technological Economy imposes on this Civilization, they have to find some other simpler excuse (but with a clear agenda, hose the weaker), like labor is lazy, like they aren’t innovative enough, like this and that. And in fact in Spain and Italy and Greece, they think that by changing the “Labor Laws” jobs will come back, how idiotic, they still can’t wrap their heads around the fact that jobs will never come back again, because there is nothing left to do (that generates profits), there is nothing worth doing.

And in fact,I have seen buildings that were once offices changed into houses: that says it all, since there is no longer any real work possible, the offices are useless, just turn them into houses, but the houses must be bought by people “with jobs”, but who cares, better houses then offices that will never be filled since there is nothing really valuable left to do. They can wait years for the houses to be bought, who cares, but they already know that the offices will never again get filled up and anyways sooner or later some turd will buy the expensive houses because the system is choke full of trillions of dollars, sooner or later that money will trickle down and make someone buy the house and such. And in fact the system has 100 trillion dollars sitting in banks worldwide as a proxy and demonstration of how much free wealth the Technological Economy can produce with so little labor, and the money keeps on increasing, Apple alone is worth more than many countries and such.

And as a corollary: the Technological Economy structurally creates ever more inequality, some winners and many losers, ever more.

And anyways Real Estate is the only game left in town, the prices are always high, even if a company sells 2 or3 houses for 200,000 dollars they got back the money they spent to build 10 houses and made some profits too, they can leave the other 7 houses empty and wait (even for years) until some sucker will buy it (always from past accumulated money, from past work, since there is no possibility to accumulate money anymore in the future work which won’t be there anymore, at least for the lower classes) and such.

And then it is obvious how this economy is turing into a minority economy, a few rich who buy all, everyone else poor and a turd and considered lazy and crappy, etc. No longer a Mass Market, but a smaller market only for those inside the special circle of Fake hard Workers and such.

The solution ? Free Salaries to all worldwide, 800 dollars a month, and cheap rents to all worldwide, 200 dollars a month for a 3 bedroom house and such. And large Scale projects, trillions of skyscrapers, trillions of spaceships to Mars and Venus, trillions of high speed trains all across the USA and a huge Bus system of trillions of Buses all across the USA, and Split the Sun to grab all of its energy, and completely change the design of the Man Brain, become another civilization, a new civilization with a new brain and more advanced.

As a side note: you can create trillions of new people and lives by simply programming a standrad “Programmable Man Brain in a Vat” with memories of a fake and imagined life (but fake and real lives are all the same, it is just information which are just random symbols written on matter and such), and machines can create an Instant New Person, a New Creation on the Spot, in a Jiffy by inserting random and nay, even experimental memories and lives and life stories in the brains and such. Maybe you too are an Instant Person that has been created only the last 2 seconds, in a jiffy as you are a[b] BRAIN IN A VAT WITHIN A SIMULATOR AND ALL OTHER BRAINS ARE THE SAME, JUST A MEMORY SEGMENT IN THE ALIEN’S COMPUTER, TRILLIONS OF NEW PEOPLE AND MINDS, NEW LIVES, NEW HISTORIES NEW EVENTS…

TOBOR THE APESTER MACHINE HAS SPOKEN ONCE AGAIN
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From:

kunstler.com/blog/2012/04/strange-jubilee-1.html

and

instantsingularity3.blogspot.it

Author Profile Page 8man | April 15, 2012 8:22 AM | Reply

instantsingularity1.blogspot.it

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:unamused:
This is how Joker responds to everyone who points out the inconsistencies in his fairy tales. Joker, you would probably do better to just drop the facade and admit you’re a fantasist.

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Winner Take All

I was reading on some websites and magazines (The Economist and such) how the USA, EU and JAPAN and others must “Move up the Economy Chain” and design and innovate and “Services” (what a total joke! Services suck so hugely, I HATE Services, kill Services!) and such in order for them to “grow”, etc. I am amazed how so called smart economists can still believe in such insane BS: first off how many new possible Designs can there be ? how many new possible innovations can there be ? and especially, new Services ? to do exactly what ? to create as many roadblocks as possible to achieve anything ! this is what Services really are all about. Obviously, not many truly useful and valid Innovations are possible (in fact there are many useless and negative - diminishing return kinds of innovations, innovations that make you waste a lot of time on a bunch of BS, like Facebook and Twitter and such, but then again, this Economy is all about Wasting Time, Wasting the Way Too Much Idle and Free Time that a Technological Economy brings upon millions of people since they all end up having all very little real work and labor to do structurally), and in fact this goes back to my theory that this economy is becoming a Minority Economy, only the Winners play and win, only a few can win, everyone else is a loser.

So for example Apple “invents a new cell phone” which is just a computer put in a new package, and Apple wins a huge chunk of market, the same with Google or Facebook and others and such. And, as a corollary what they actually do is Program People, they actually Program How People Will Behave and What People Will Do (and buy, etc.) : As if the computers really end up programming people after people programmed the computers, or as if, by programming computers, the corporations are so subtle and smart that they can actually indirectly program people to act and Buy and Do what they want.

The programs are programmed in such a way as to go backwards and program people: whether you can say that the computers end up programming people or that the corporations program people by programming the computers and software that people will use so that they will program people to do certain things, it doesn’t matter, what counts is that we program computers that then program us (it ends up going the other way around, we thought we were telling what the machines were to do but they end up telling us what to do and we actually end up programming our own prison).

But more importantly, those who win, win BIG TIME; there is this automatic Monopoly tendency in all of these high tech endeavors, the winner takes all, the winner wins big time, once again, the forces in action concentrate everything in a few winning hands and cut out everyone else, Winner Take All. And this is supposed to make an “Economy Grow” ? No, only the rich and the winners grow, everyone else is Programmed and Brainwashed to buy their products, like robots and drones, they just pay and buy and obey the Powers that Be, go out and Buy the new Apple Gadget, go on, make them richer, wait all night long outside of the store, what c*cks !

Obviously this ideology of Innovation is a huge deception, but so many people buy into it, and really believe it and such (and even if there are all of these new inventions waiting to be made, then maybe worldwide they can keep at most 1 million people employed (10,000 new startups having 100 engineers or “innovators” or whatever). But alas, it is all useless, the Powers that Be, the rich and corporations will always win no matter what, they call the cards, they make up the games and rules people must play no matter what, they decide for all, they tell everyone what they must believe in and how they all must be innovators and study all these new fangled things (and act in certain ways, always answering smart phones and meetings and crap), always More Education crap, just to hose them all in the end. And anyways, if they didn’t program you in a certain way, someone else will and anyways, any culture is always a useless worthless turd (no one ever demands free salaries and cheap rents, what should really be given out freely to all) and you can criticize and talk from now until forever, it will never and can never change, everyone plays along, there is nothing you can do about it but simply give up.

Like hoping the housing crisis brings down prices and such, no way jose, the winners will always win no matter what, the inequality is hard wired, is a constant, only a full out war and pure violence can overthrow any inequality, but then it will simply get substituted with another inequality and a new set of winners and losers and such. If homes are not bought, they will just wait and keep the prices high, if they are not built the prices will keep on going higher as fewer homes for ever more people, if they are built, the construction companies make profits anyways but you pay so much and so on. YOU NEVER CAN WIN, END OF STORY.

On the Instant People Constructor, on the Creation of People on the Spot, the new person and life (lifetime and life story) constructor machine that creates an entire life (of any age and environment and any life story) in an Instant by simply assigning a number to a memory location, well by a more perfected Brain in a Vat, or Brain in a Simulator, you just need one Brain working at very high speeds and frequencies to live trillions of lives in parallel, by multitasking the programs representing the lives in only one Brain. And you can imagine mixing lives, and creating all kinds of Short Circuits and experiences, and the Brain manipulating the Brain in the Simulator could be manipulated itself by another brain, or many brains, for many levels, trillions of levels. And if One Brain in a Vat is a trillion lives living simultaneously, the you can have trillions of Brains in Vats the Size of a Planet living even more lives, by high speed circuits in high speed Electronc Solid State Brain Devices, new brain designs, new wild universes, go on man, keep on inventing it all, go on.

THE APE MACHINE HAS SPOKEN ONCE AGAIN

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From:

kunstler.com/blog/2012/04/strange-jubilee-1.html

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To Using My Own Pink Dildo On Myself:

Don’t you have some chronic masturbation to attend to with your pink dildo?

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I have a family here thats been living on the side of apark restroom, with their belingings chocking a minivan here… there are several old women homeless, and a toothless old man who doesnt own a shirt anymore climbing a mountain train… at a pitifully slow rate, so he can climb up to his tree house.

Every damn city Ive been to in the last ten years has been overflowing with homeless. They are literally no different from you SIADT… they though they could play the game, live frugally and wisely, and have what they want… educated so they were safe. But everyone is brought up to get mortgadges, college debt, car payments, vacations… a sudden unexpected shift in the economy you your nearing retirement entitlement age can dump your ass on the street. Do you know how many former software engineers are barely scrapping by now, who in the 90s were making 200,000+ ?

Whatever his Flawsm Walker, hes hardly unique. Hes been homeless for a few years, so the anger and neurosis chewed through him. Does to many, take time and interpersonal contact to change that. The kid in the meantime has shown the capacity to study and learn, and came to a philosophy revealing to his position in life, and has read well into it. Its a very close kin geneology wise to Nietzsche and Marx, which most of this forum takes after.

Walker isnt a finished product. Hes evolving, going through life changes, is articulating the contradictions in life as he can know and see it, and what causes him pain. He’s not a bad guy for doing this… hes actually trying to be… honest. Honesty doesnt mean truth as in This is reality, just means hes not knowingly lying.

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Its alot more on his part in being truthful than most people here can admit to. He calls reality as he sees it. But hes also looking for away out for his child. Hes playing the part of the primordial man. Whereas most of us looking at him… were repeating the lines we were fed and told, fall in line, do this and that, obey and not question, take these pills and accept this security we give you as happiness. And know even then… you can fail despite following the public code of good conduct… and if you fall, your a statistic and no one is going to give a fuck about you. Any character flaw can be assigned to your undoing after the fact.

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Well said Contra. I always respect your candid honesty and articulate ways of saying things.

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I think a lot of people have been honest (for the most part) about the hardships and vicissitudes they’ve faced in life. We all face them. They’re all very real. Some of us have experienced some of them at the 1st level of consciousness, which becomes, when we talk about them, the 2nd level of awareness in our talking about them, which then becomes the 3rd or 4th level of awareness for our listeners. I’ve not experienced homelessness, myself. I’ve not had this exact first level of consciousness, but I’ve had my own hardships which are equally horrendous to me. And I’ve had enough 2nd level experiences, usually through observation rather than through reading words, of what other people have faced and overcome. In other words, I have empathy.

Anyone can be anything they wish to be–on the internet–including me. All I’m asking is, if you create a persona in order to allow yourself to post your ideas, please be consistent in your details. Don’t tell us how impossible it is for you to get simple health care because you have no insurance, while telling us about your pregnant girlfriend and her existing child who must be getting some sort of care, somehow–somewhere. Don’t tell us all this and still talk about the new electronic toy you plan to buy when your income tax rebate comes.

And don’t tell us about living on the side of a wet, horrible, mountain in the middle of an Hawaiian jungle–and then, in another thread, tell us how you’re sure your cat doesn’t realize why you clean her litter box.

Come on. It’s fine to create a persona–it’s expected and accepted. Just make your character complete and consistent. If you don’t, there’s going to be someone–usually like me–who’ll question both your character and the veracity of what you have your character say. Be Abby Sciutto and create a fool-proof alternate identity for yourself, otherwise you’ll be dead before the bad guys even get to you. :smiley:

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You see, if Joker really were a homeless guy then he’d be more pissed off about being accused of having made up this fantasy. His whole persona, his whole story, is bullshit. An excuse for being a depressed, angry prick.

You’ll get no disagreement from me. I have no animosity towards the homeless, indeed I have a lot of sympathy for them. I just don’t believe a word Joker says because to anyone with half a brain it just doesn’t add up.

My advice to them would be not to work in industries prone to huge bubbles and crashes, and to find something more productive to do than make yet more software. They should count themselves lucky they were in a position to make $200,000+. And no doubt had they been a bit more sensible with their money then they wouldn’t now be homeless. I don’t have much sympathy for rich stupid people losing all their money through being stupid. I have a lot more sympathy for poor people crippled by the debt machine who will never have the chance to even become rich let alone then lose the money through being stupid.

I do not believe this for one second. His story makes no sense.

Joker talks endless bollocks about things he doesn’t understand, avoids dealing with all contradicting arguments, never produces any data when called to back up his ridiculous claims, constantly uses terms he has picked up in the mainstream media, doesn’t appear to have read any of the philosophy he pays lip service to, and in general is extremely unpleasant towards anyone who calls him on his lies.

He is not someone that anyone here should look up to.

He is a fantasist and a liar. He is perhaps the most dishonest person on this website, and he does know that he is lying.

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I’m not saying I disagree with a lot of that, but i’m pretty sure he’s not lying about being homeless.

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I guess I’m going to go ahead and comment on a few of Liz’s points (we’re always running into one another) and then clarify some things when it concerns James L. Walker.

I would say that it’s fine to create a persona, but I really don’t see the need for it. I would say that people create personas, sometimes, because there are very few, if any, consequences of posting on a Message Board, provided one remains within legal limits. However, my argument would be that, because there are no real consequences, it should serve more than anything as a Forum to be as honest as possible, again, within legal limits and the limits of Forum Rules.

With respect to contradictions, and things of that nature, I tend not to question those because the extent to which they matter is infinitesimal. I am basically just here to challenge ideas, have my ideas challenged, and learn new stuff. I read damn near every thread in Natural Sciences, for instance, but rarely post because I still understand very close to jack about any kind of science.

I think everyone should be like Abby Sciutto in that she is extremely hot. I’m sorry, but I basically had to say that because she is on my Top 10 list of hottest TV personalities.

Moving on…

I have no reason to believe that he was not homeless, at some point, because that is something that he has always maintained. Furthermore, while he is not strictly homeless at this point, the residence in which he lives is not his own, and I believe he has pointed that out.

I certainly believe him about not having a job, he is definitely interested in moving to my area and working at this hotel. I’ve spoken with him on the phone a number of times.