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rosa lichtenstein wrote:
On Heidegger the silly old fart:
Practically every sentence this charlatan (Heidegger) ever wrote was metaphysical (as well as being incomprehensible).
Exhibit A for the presecution of his ‘disciples’:
Apart from the minor fact that it is complete bollocks, is this a scientific claim?
No
Does it claim to provide a priori knowledge of the world?
Yes.
As I said: metaphysical.
Into the flames with it.
Please do not post any more of this sub-standard tripe; I want to hang on to my breakfast a bit longer.
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I suspect he needs to re-read Wittgenstein, and throw Heidegger in the trash.
I am afraid I have to agree with Hume on this one: into the flames with it.
Metaphysical drivel.
I only posted this since it seemed to confirm my negative view of Heidegger.
An even better book about Heidegger (which exposes him as a philosophical plonker, and his ‘disciples’ as idiots) is Paul Edwards’s book Heidegger’s Confusions (Prometheus Books, 2004).
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Throw all of traditional philosophy onto the bonfire, beginning with Heidegger. That will do for starters.
A priori, dogmatic guff I am afraid, from that Nazi charlatan.
On the other hand – perhaps I was wrong about burning it all.
Yes, on second thoughts, burning is far too good for it…
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Unless you need to read up on this for a college course, I’d advise you to steer clear of epistemology in its entirety. Not one single problem has been solved in 2500 years, and we still do not know what a solution would even look like.
And definitely steer clear of Heidegger, unless you want to be bamboozled by an out and out charlatan.
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I honestly do not know why anyone bothers with that charlatan Heidegger; I suggest that unless you have to (to pass acourse at college, or whatever) you do not waste your time with that jargon-meister. He’s even worse than Hegel. At least Hegel was not a charlatan.
He no more means anything by the term ‘Being’ than did Parmenides who invented the term (by nonimalising a perfectly good verb) – a trick that Plato and subsequent philosophers perfected.
[On Heidegger, I am not the person to ask since I would not touch his work with someone else’s condom-covered barge pole.]
Heidegger was a dumbass compared to Frege.
Yes, I am… with your’s.
Your reality is yours to have, but you seem intent on taking everyone else’s reality away from them! Are you jealous? Have you led a very sheltered life c/o the Establishment, and now you don’t know how to play nice with us mere mortals who are grounded in a more collective reality than yours? Am I right? I probably am…
What reality should I/we be in touch with… your’s? an indoctrinated one? everyone else’s’? or our own individual reality that is ours’ for the making?
…but do not reply if you have nothing fruitful to say, but simply… go away. Stop lieing to yourself!
How about this, though:
Play of Mirrors Part 2 - Life is a Paradox
Existence is always based on a seeming paradox, that we are One and also appearing separate. Our analytical mental logical capacity is based on having knowledge of facts, which can only be done by isolating things from a certain point of view, to look at an object or a situation or a being as its own individual thing rather than a part of a whole. At the same time, existence, the whole of creation, is One, one organism, one body. We are cells in the One creation just like the cells and organs in a human body. Therefore logic in itself, if genuinely pursued all the way, always ends up in contradiction, the contradiction of Oneness and seeming separation. We can not come in touch with life by mentally understanding its parts. The seeking for a logical answer, for an analytical meaning and understanding of life, is always vain and can never be satisfied.
This is related to my previous post ‘Play of Mirrors’, in which I was mentioning that from the highest point of view, our Higher Self is One organism, one and the same for all beings and all creation, and symbolically it can be viewed like a Sun, and we as lower selves are all sunrays emanating from it. In truth, the Sun and its rays of Light are One. Another way to symbolically describe this is that the lower self is a reflection of the Higher Self seen in a mirror.
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"Everywhere we look around in the physical, emotional and mental worlds, we see only reflections, as all other people, places, objects, also are only reflections of their own higher selves.
As mere reflections who have forgotten the real self, there has often been this feeling of being incomplete, that our identity is not validated, which is coming from losing sight of the real/higher self. And in this forgetfulness, there has been a widespread tendency to look for that sense of completion in the world of reflections. So people hope to be completed and validate their identity by looking for positive opinions of other people, by hoping that positive experiences and achievements will finally validate their identity, and finally the reflection will not be blur anymore. But this is
absolutely vain, as completion can never come from the world of reflections, but only from reconnection with one’s own higher, real self.
Seeking completion in the world of reflections is like placing two mirrors in front of each other, the reflections reflect each other endlessly. This world where the higher self has been forgotten is a maze of opposing mirrors where it is not possible to understand what is real.
Therefore, for real spiritual breaktroughs to occur, one must unconditionally renounce all hope for validation and completion in the opinions of other people, in one’s own achievements, or in any other circumstance from this world of reflections in these lower planes"
The Higher Self, the field and embrace of Oneness, the Light of Source, the One organism which all of existence is, all of these are different words to describe the same thing, and this is who and what we really are. We are cells in this One organism, ripples in the Ocean of life. This presence is eternal and unconditional, it can never be affected, lowered, changed. It is beyond conditions. Therefore it is not something to seek out there, it is not something to achieve, to work towards in a future, it is always there and has always been there and we can never be truly disconnected from it because there is nothing outside of the One, it is only the individual awareness which may forget temporarily, which may then experience the illusion of being disconnected, while the One presence is always there, and truly all there is to do is to relax into it.

To relax into it means that we see this Highest Light as ourselves and as all others and as all situations, always, unconditionally, no matter what is happening in the conditions. To truly see it, automatically we will bring it into the situation, and we will experience it.
To create attachments and investments in scenarios, in expecting or believing that things should be a certain way, automatically hooks the energy in the conditions in the lower self, brings identification with the lower self, because it is an expectation that the lower appearance could complete us, and actually the One Presence that we truly are is always there, everywhere, in every moment, always complete.
And at the same time, the lower self often has accumulated a lot of programs, distortions, all of which are based on the illusion of feeling separate, dislocated. This creates an experience of various pains, especially physically and emotionally, which are always illusions no matter how real they may seem. An enlightened being could stand in an explosion unharmed, get shot by a firearm and just let the bullet go back out of the body unharmed, simply because he or she firmly knows that conditions are always illusions, a play of mirrors, and the One unconditional Presence is always here, always complete to provide unconditional health and wholeness.
At the same time, it can be a journey to regain this full awareness, this full enlightenment, and this has to be acknowledged too. In full enlightenment, there is absolutely no need of anything whatsoever, because our Higher Self presence is always complete and pure Oneness Light and Love, it can not be affected by any of the lower conditions, and in truth the Higher and lower self are One, so the lower self has the destiny to fully embody the Higher and all of its unconditional qualities, and therefore to not be affected by circumstances and always be pure Light.
When this full awareness has not been regained yet, the lower self has many needs, or in other words many addictions, it needs/is addicted to drinking water, breathing air, sunlight, eating food, having meaningful human connections, etc. And here is the paradox, that from a certain perspective and at certain stages of evolution we truly need all of this, and at the same time as the One unconditional presence we truly don’t need them.

The journey is to resolve this paradox by addressing all needs and desires, and there is no generic straightforward answer for this. Either they have to be renounced or they have to be experienced and played out, until the lower self is in full awareness of its unconditional Presence of the One, and the Soul has completed its journey in incarnation and has no desire or reason to incarnate anymore. This is dependant on the Divine Plan of the One : certain desires are distorted, for example we don’t really need junk food and this can usually be renounced easily. If we believe that we need something then we will experience that need. For example we have genes to make vitamin C, but they are usually turned off because we believe we need to eat it, but they can be turned back on by our awareness that we can make our own vitamin C.
However some desires are reflections of Divine Plan for unfolding of creation, and our Soul may not renounce them for some time but instead it will send the impulse to create that experience in the best way possible, for example the desire to experience Soul family reunion. Here it is important to remember that the Divine Plan is fluid, it changes, it is not something we can tune into with mental planning and beliefs, so we have to release attachments to a specific scenario. We can only tune into Divine Plan in the moment, by living and expressing each moment one by one fully, then the journey unfolds, life is able to build upon each previous moment only if it was lived fully which means that we see the One Presence of Highest Light in each moment, no matter what is happening. These desires, this inner guidance moment by moment, is the fabric that weaves all life into a field of Oneness.
As this journey unfolds, we progressively regain full awareness of our unconditional Presence of the One, and the paradox is reconciled, as Oneness is realized all the way into all degrees of density and separation, then all beings, all cells of the One organism, are fully embraced together in the awareness of Oneness, and life remains a mystery to be experienced, not as something to be attained because there is nothing outside of life itself, but as the expression of the joy of simply existing. This is something which is always there for us to access at any time anywhere, in fact it can only be accessed when we relax into the present moment.
The main issue in Heidegger is rather obvious. But, what makes it hard to grasp is that the history of ideas isn’t part of our state compulsory education. It’s simply that reason, what people really think when asked, and when they give reasons, was denounced as “subjectivity”, and was replaced by external measurement of how things happen. How fast does a stone fall, etc. This was then confusingly called “reason”, e.g., instrumental reason. This is, by the way, the meaning of existentialism and nihilism in a nutshell. We just don’t see it because we don’t know how it was before.
Anyone who has a real ability to think, to reason, feels this quite strongly and negatively. Because reason can see when things make sense, where idiots can not see. But, this, which is true, is everywhere passed off as “subjective” judgment. That was not true in former times. Science (the greatest authority) has no use of reason, and so can yield no sound statements about politics/the character of human beings on the whole, can not answer the most pressing legal questions and so on, the question How to live? = what “norm”. Ergo, the crisis.
That is exactly true. But is shouldn’t disqualify it for that reason.
Is your Rock of Gibraltar zeal for the way the words “scientific claim” is used scientific? Is using words to come to a decision about how to use the word scientific, scientific? Depends on how the word is used.
Ibid.