So manufacturing has recovered to pre recession levels? That’s a good thing isn’t it?
No, it is going through a process of reversion to when it collapsed the last time.
Why not post a 10 year chart of the dow jones?
United States
Looks like we saw a slight correction down, but then they both are headed back up. djia hit record highs under the current administration, and if you look since 2009, the recovery for most of the major indexes has been pretty good. The money is there, in the hands of the shareholders, and it’s growing every day.
Please note as well that these are not 10 year charts. If you’re posting a short term chart on something with low volatility, then you’re not really showing anything. If the chart is showing indexes like these are, then you need to have a chart that’s over a long enough period of time to show what the real fluctuation is. All those indexes are way up man given their historical highs and lows.
Showing a chart that says government bonds are down and then concluding from it that there’s gonna be a global economic collapse just doesn’t make sense. Bonds are what people buy when the economy sucks. They’re low yield, low risk ways to hold money for a long time when investment opportunities that make better money don’t present themselves. Same with gold. When they wanna change the value of gold the speed up or slow down the mining process, when they wanna change the value of bonds they change the rates relative to other investments that someone might make with their money instead.
So if bonds are low, that means that stocks are high. That means that people are making more money in the stock markets than they could with the bonds, and that they see the risk variance between the markets and the bonds in such a way that it’s not deterring them from investing in more lucrative things.
The money’s there, it’s just not going to the govt or very many private citizens. It’s going to the people who have enough money already to make the moves in the market from which they can profit.
There’s expected to be more tremendous forms of economic corrections before the year is out. On record this is one of the worst years for the United States economy also. On record for the global economy a whole as well.
If you have too much volatility within a market this in no way illustrates a healthy economy.
Which indexes to you looks good exactly?
Much of the world’s bonds are overvalued tied into various giant credit exposures. With nations contemplating negative credit rates this means a negative value for bonds as a whole.
The stock market is a horrible indicator of a economy’s health. The stock market could be doing very well and the general mainstreet economy doing horrible. Right before the United States market crash of 1929 stocks were extremely high as a result of the roaring 20’s before the economy went into a full blown depression. What the United States and the entire world faces is something twenty times worse than the 1929 crash. We’re talking about on a global scale here.
The stock market as far as I know is only an indicator of wealth for the top ten percent of the population while a majority of the United States lives in ruin.
macrotrends.net/1358/dow-jon … t-10-years
That looks pretty good. People who are buying and holding are doing well in as much as their investments are following the dow. Companies that are a part of that index are stronger, much stronger financially than they have been in the past. The volatility on the 10 year chart seems to be not such a big deal. And, there are tons of short term trades to be made no matter what’s happening in the markets so you can always make money as an individual whether the world economy is collapsing or being built back up. Who cares about whole classes of people? It’s the individual that’s important. And, the individual with some capital can make some money right now because there’s money to be made.