No it is NOT about the biblical God, it is about AN interpretation of the biblical God that you concocted in YOUR OWN HEAD.
The purpose of this thread was/is not to try and make a legitimate critique of the Bible, or to advance knowledge or wisdom in any manner whatsoever. It is and was to take a jab at religion by creating a straw man, knocking it down, and feeling a sense of superiority for doing so.
That’s the game you’re playing and I’m exposing it so as to bring about maximum clarity.
The Bible itself is a mockery to the true God that exists. At the same time as remaining free of mockery to the perception of the true believer, it is nothing but mockery to those who believe in God the way religion paints it, a tongue in cheek insult delivered to the deluded, the power hungry, etc.
On all levels, in all ways, it serves all purposes, including being disrespectful to a god who never was proud to be called god. On all levels, in all ways, it falls far short of painting the truth and is limited to being a child’s bedtime story at the very end even when painting god in the truest light that it can, for that is only the beginning of knowing the being beyond the title.
It is complicated sophistry and simple child’s play and is never designed to even lead to the truth, but in all its ways designed to keep children spirits occupied in incomplete truths and falsities until it’s too late for their prophecies to come true.
Is there not knowledge that you would deny your children until they are mature enough to know it?
Look at the story, God said no, God allowed Satan in to test , they failed. Sound mature enough to handle all knowledge? Do you want to protect your children so much that they do not evolve or mature mentally? Perhaps God too must follow certain rules of science and evolution.
I think it gets assumed too largely that God has to follow the rules. It also gets assumed too largely that god created the rules he follows. What they all really hate to acknowledge is the existence of a being that doesn’t follow any rule except when convent and breaks every rule and in no way, shape or form ever stops being righteous or in the right. It terrifies and disturbs many the experiments that god actually runs and condones and just what the being actually does. It is inhuman, inhumane and makes monsters of us all, which is entirely the point.
Take another ride along the devils road, along the night road of paths between paths between lives between heaven and hell.
It’s more along the lines that he can do what others claim to be able to do. Do as I say, not as I do, stems from that. For example, someone with tolerance to heat built up inside their mouths may dig right into a meal fresh from the oven without burning themselves. Anyone who follows suit without heat tolerance based on observation would likely injure themselves.
If denying them the fruit prevents wanting to learn, then why are we not in trees? Could have God wanted them curious by denying? Possible. He did allow a bite or two.
If given all knowledge without mental maturity there would be dangerous repercussions. One has to gain moral understanding before delving into sciences. One actually has to control curiosity as well. I can see more then a few reasons to deny all knowledge to adults with infant maturity and curiosity. If that tree exists and we gain the knowledge on how to find it, would you give access to all humans freely? I hope not.
All knowledge good and bad can be twisted. We in general still are not mature enough for that tree.
Being handed something gives little appreciation of it, spoiled rich kids comes to mind quickly.
As religion today is not what it was at the time these stories came about, what god is perceived as has changed.
How stories are interpreted creates views. The Jewish religion has sects just as Christian. This creates interpretations. Even we Atheists view the texts in different ways. You and I are examples of that.
We must all have different views to be individual and a social species. Evolution is not just physical it is mental. Experience must occur over generations. Instinct built, emotions must be used, thought, etc etc.
A god could not give experience, morals and understanding to creatures that were just birthed so to speak. Two infant humans having all knowledge and no mental abilities would have been disastrous.
Hey, I looked at my parents more then once and said “I hate you” and meant it at the time. They did what they had to do to protect and teach , it was not always pleasant. Pretty sure your folks did the same .
True that knowledge is age related but the tree of knowledge is analogous to all knowledge and to us that would mean all schooling from pre-kindergarten right up to the highest degree we can earn in universities etc.
A good God would indeed allow and even insist on a bite or two. That is why the Jewish moral to the story is that of the elevation of man and not the fall that Christians put to the story.
In the Christian view, God wanted to deny any bite even though A & E were too ignorant and mentally blind to even know they were naked and could thus not reproduce.
Bad interpretations of the Bible are a mockery to a pure mind which knows how to interpret it positively. It’s not the Bible’s fault that people use what is in it for their own selfish agenda’s.