What Nihilism Is And Isn't: Dispelling Misconceptions

All governments is politically nihilistic, it doesn’t matter if the government is neo-liberal, communist, democratic, socialist, capitalist, republican, parliamentary, fascist, monarchical, libertarian, or tribal. Centralized power structures serves the interests of the powerful only and their collective will or might. Ideological differences are reduced to mere triviality amongst all of this. Of course part of the trick of any established power of government is to convince its constituents or subjects it is something other than what it is which is where overly hyped social idealism comes into play.

This is of course in contrast to anarchist nihilism.

[b]The author was the reader, who looked at the events and found a story. We think we have some kind of privileged access to our own motives and intentions. In fact we have no clear insight into what moves us to live as we do. The stories we tell ourselves are like the messages that appear on Ouija boards. If we are authors in our lives, it is in retrospect.

— John Gray, The Soul of the Marionette[/b]

The government nihilists have more power - that is all. It is not a question of the intelligence in this case, because the almost powerless people have more intelligent people than the powerful people, not only because of the fact that the almost powerless people are 99 times more than the powerful people. Even the most intelligent 1% of the 99% who are almost powerless are averagely more intelligent than the 1% who are powerful. It really is a question of power. If you have power, than you do not need to be very intelligent, an average intelligence is enough, the rest is a question of power itself and that you are capable of keeping it (and for this capability an average intelligence is sufficient).

So much of what we do is motivated by instinct, not intellect.
A snake doesn’t know or care to know whether value is objective, subjective or nonexistent, it just feeds.
Perhaps nihilists are operating on the level of snakes.
If there’s no reason to act, then there’s no reason not to act either.
Nihilists may just be taking the path of least resistance, which is still to eat, keep warm, but not much else, ruminate occasionally on their nihilism, perhaps.
Even if you believed the world was going to end tomorrow, and all was in vain, if you had an itch, you still might scratch it.

I would define myself as an epistemological, metaphysical and ethical relativist, as opposed to an objectivist or subjectivist.
For me, everything is relative, not just morals and values but height and weight.
To be is to relate, things are just the sum of their relationships.
What the earth is, a big round gravitational ball, is meaningless outside of its capacity to cause things to stop and go.
The earth doesn’t cause things to stop and go all by itself, it needs things to be what they are, in order to be what it is.
The two go together, if things weren’t what they were, the earth wouldn’t be what it is and vice versa.
Life is give and take, a two way street.
Value is created by a relationship between subject and object or other subjects, rather than being subjective or objective.
Every mouse needs a cat and every clown a bat.
Categories are also relative, so when something becomes round for me, isn’t exactly when something becomes round for you.
That we have the word round at all, says as much about the human brain/mind and the English language as it does stuffs.
Things aren’t exactly the same in any two place/times, so we’re constantly updating our perceptions and conceptions of things.

Here’s how I, a relativist, would answer these questions.

Is there such a thing as meaning in life?
Yes, but it’s ephemeral, it can be grown, it decays, and it can be regrown.
Is there inherent meaning in the universe?
No, nothing is inherent.
Can we create real meaning ourselves?
We don’t create meaning in a vacuum, we cultivate it out of existing materials.
Is the pursuit of inherent meaning possible?
As much as it’s possible for a dog to chase its tail, or to grasp wind.
Is the pursuit of created meaning possible?
Yes.
Can we solve the problem of meaning?
Yes, by stop trying to turn meaning into a God on the one hand, or something arbitrary on the other.

A reversal may be at hand. Most reversals are of the kind where like the mirror d63 talks about, reflects very early types of images. These in their cognitive counterparts are projections.so instead of saying-trying to turn meaning into god, could not God, instead try to turn meaning into man?

This is asserted to be true. But: What is it true about?

What are the limits [if any] of your “system” pertaining to a particular context in which we might explore the parameters of, say, “being logical”?

For example, is it more or less logical for U.S. citizens to elect Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton in November?

Using your “method”, discuss this.

Or, sure, choose a particular context of your own. One in which there are conflicts regarding which “results” are more in sync with a rational frame of mind.

Are you prepared to discuss nihilism…existentially?

I think just about everybody here is on roughly the same page.
No one here is a nihilist, or an objectivist either.
We all believe meaning and values can exist, but aren’t inherent, that they’re subjective or relative, and many if not most modern philosophers would agree.
What we have here is just flavors or hues of that.
Haha let me ask you something, you say it’s possible for people to have or create meaning, values, goals and so on, but can one of those values or objectives be to be honest, fair, or generous in your dealings with others or some others?
Are you saying that in the history of the world, no one has ever helped another for the sake of that other, and not for the sake of themselves, or are you just saying it’s rare, and if we’re to turn it into a law or rule to be followed by everyone at all times and in all places, that we’re bound to break it lots?
Why do people try to turn some of their desires or wants into rules or laws to be followed, why not just behave whimsically, is an interesting query.

Nihilism is basically the belief that existence (not necessarily bound to human) is meaningless. It also puts emphasis on the impossibility of truth.

Relativism states that one can only believe something that they can relate to. Or in other words, you cannot understand something that you do not have historical or cultural experience with.

I do not see any similarities between the two. Nihilism rejects any belief in purpose or truth. Relativism acknowledges existences, but that they are only understood by people in similar environments or with similar experience.

Anti Foundationalism And Nihilism.

iep.utm.edu/nihilism/