Legalize heroin

[equal2u]

You also have to know that we are going to ask you where the hell you are deriving each one of the concepts involved in that convoluted claim.

Great. But why so angry? Why do you keep writing 'hell'? Relax...

[FilmSnob]

Lol, does hell offend you?

[_________]

That is true. But first of all they're moral rights. Constitutions that grant these rights are in accordance with morality.

I tried to avoid being too explicit, but to be more obverse, "Whose morality?"

I wouldn't want to specify that, strictly speaking or otherwise because that is wrong. The legal system is a legal code that may or may not be in accordance with morality. No legal code in the world exists that is in accordance with morality IMO. Some are better than others. The Scandinavian countries have the best. Nazi Germany had the worst.

Note the asterisk and its associated text.

OK... So I guess the Nazis had a right to kill 12 million after all then? After all it was all OK under their constitution?

So long as it was within their jurisdiction, yes. I emphatically disagree with it ethically, but it is not objectively wrong. This reductio has been used ad naseum, so I would suggest reading one of the many threads here on the topic of moral relativity v. moral realism and thus why I said earlier something to the effect of "let's avoid trudging through the inevitable rivers of shit and admit parallelism."

[equal2u]

Lol, does hell offend you?

Not in the slightest. I just don't know why I'm debating with Mr angry.

[equal2u]

That is true. But first of all they're moral rights. Constitutions that grant these rights are in accordance with morality.

I tried to avoid being too explicit, but to be more obverse, "Whose morality?"

Morality doesn't belong to anyone.

OK... So I guess the Nazis had a right to kill 12 million after all then? After all it was all OK under their constitution?

So long as it was within their jurisdiction, yes. I emphatically disagree with it ethically, but it is not objectively wrong. This reductio has been used ad naseum, so I would suggest reading one of the many threads here on the topic of moral relativity v. moral realism and thus why I said earlier something to the effect of "let's avoid trudging through the inevitable rivers of shit and admit parallelism."

The Holocaust was absolutely wrong and evil, objectively, ethically and by any other measure. If you can't recognise that then the only shit round here is in your fucked up mind. And if that gets me banned again so be it.

[FilmSnob]

Hell, I tell ya boy, you should just actually go and buy some drugs.

[equal2u]

What do you think Jewish Holocaust victims were thinking when they were being thrown into the furnace to burn alive for missing a gold tooth in one of the corpses' mouths they were forced to inspect? Do you think they were thinking 'this isn't objectively wrong'.

What do you think the Jewish children were thinking when 'Dr' Mengele was injecting toxic chemicals directly into their eyes? Do you think they were considering the 'moral relativism' argument? You fucking idiot.

[equal2u]

Hell, I tell ya boy, you should just actually go and buy some drugs.

You should just try actually engaging in the debate. There's a first time for everything.

[FilmSnob]

You first.

[equal2u]

You first.

I've already done it, hellboy.

[FilmSnob]

Then...

This whole thread...

Is a lie?

You aren't being prevented from buying heroin?

[equal2u]

Then...

This whole thread...

Is a lie?

You aren't being prevented from buying heroin?

There isn't anywhere in the world where I'm not prevented by the authorities from buying heroin. I was referring to the fact that I actually engage in debate on this thread where all you do is make daft comments.

[FilmSnob]

So you don't buy drugs?

[equal2u]

So you don't buy drugs?

Not any more. But this thread is about whether drugs should be legalised or not, especially heroin.

[FilmSnob]

Should drugs be legalized?

Be legilized by whom? Who should legalize drugs?

Or is legalization a metaphysical phenomenon that just "happens"?

[FilmSnob]

In other words:

Should=giving orders.

To the ultimate philosophical question of "why," the anser of "should" is: because I say so.

"I want polititians to do what I want?"

And I want a transilvanian hooker to fly her ass over to montreal and feed me transilvanian food with her butcheeks.

But I ain't

got

the money.

Why don't wou drop this whole "should" business, which is the business of tyrants, and join us in the "could" department?

[lizbethrose]

Heroin should be legalized because I want to take it. Legalize heroin now.

Just thought I'd republish the OP.

[Only_Humean]

equal2u warned and banned again.

[MagsJ]

Heroin should be legalized because I want to take it. Legalize heroin now.

Just thought I'd republish the OP.

[_________]

The Holocaust was absolutely wrong and evil, objectively, ethically and by any other measure. If you can't recognise that then the only shit round here is in your fucked up mind. And if that gets me banned again so be it.

Congratulations. You've stacked so many subjective valuations on top of one another (and somehow equated it to objectivity), I honestly feel inadequate to properly address it.

[Joe Schmoe]

I reiterate my support for =2u.

Those who oppose legalisation to my eye are sheep who have no faith in themselves, therefore, no faith in others.

Sorry that you got banned again.

[Only_Humean]

I reiterate my support for =2u.

Those who oppose legalisation to my eye are sheep who have no faith in themselves, therefore, no faith in others.

Sorry that you got banned again.

Anyone who disagrees with you on the subject must be personally deficient in character, then?

Look at the people disagreeing here - Magsj isn't worried that if it's legalised she's going to go out and shovel half of Columbia up her nose. People can have genuine concerns about significant social changes.

I'm for legalisation, but arguments like this and equal2u's OP dent my faith that I'm on the smart side of the debate.

[Joe Schmoe]

Anyone who disagrees with you on the subject must be personally deficient in character, then?

Look at the people disagreeing here - Magsj isn't worried that if it's legalised she's going to go out and shovel half of Columbia up her nose. People can have genuine concerns about significant social changes.

I'm for legalisation, but arguments like this and equal2u's OP dent my faith that I'm on the smart side of the debate.

I question the integrity and intent of the people posting in this thread. It bothered me and I was venting.

Sorry, anti-drugs aren't sheep, just annoying to me.

[brevel_monkey]

I question the integrity and intent of the people posting in this thread.

You questioned the integrity of everyone who disagreed with you, purely because they disagreed with you.

That's an ad-hominum argument, and its a particularly sloppy and transparent too.

[Joe Schmoe]

I question the integrity and intent of the people posting in this thread.

You questioned the integrity of everyone who disagreed with you, purely because they disagreed with you.

That's an ad-hominum argument, and its a particularly sloppy and transparent too.

You state as fact, which you have no knowledge of.

I therefore question your integrity.