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The discipline called Philosophy.

Postby pljames » Fri May 25, 2012 11:44 pm

:-k Philosophy is the first discipline (I think). First comes curiosity then questions statements and answers. All disciplines have questions. I would seem all humans historically have some form of rules and behavior. There are order and disorder. Both cannot exist in the same space. But to follow a discipline one has to understand it. I chose Philosophy as one of my first philosophies because it is said (it was the first one). I love asking questions statements and answers. But only to learn understand and share. I feel sharing is wisdom. Sharing for sharings sake and not selfishness.

I now understand better the sentence (the love of wisdom). pl
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Re: The discipline called Philosophy.

Postby James S Saint » Fri May 25, 2012 11:47 pm

"Life" is the "First Discipline".

Philosophy secondly comes into the picture as to "How".
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Gain is obtained by giving a lot and keeping a little.
Those who too ardently seek to be seen as correct, see only correctness in themselves.
The Social Paradox - to be well grounded and soundly harmonious, one must rise above the dirt and noise.
The One God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: The discipline called Philosophy.

Postby Contra-Nietzsche » Sat May 26, 2012 1:28 am

yes pljames, we all choose philosophy as one of our first philosophies.
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Re: The discipline called Philosophy.

Postby pljames » Sun May 27, 2012 2:45 pm

:-k What comes first life or how? Every word has to have a meaning, a understanding. A thousand people then a thousand understandings each different. Life to you might not be life as I see and perceive it. Maybe that's why there is a discipline or disciplines. To gather more insite to make another thought as to defining what the word means universally and individually. Drawing us closer to a better understanding of the word as we see it and others see it. Sharing this knowledge is (wisdom). pl








James S Saint wrote:"Life" is the "First Discipline".

Philosophy secondly comes into the picture as to "How".
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Re: The discipline called Philosophy.

Postby Typist » Sun May 27, 2012 3:02 pm

James S Saint wrote:"Life" is the "First Discipline". Philosophy secondly comes into the picture as to "How".


Well put James.

Here's my try.

Being is reality, becoming is an idea. Some philosophers feel the best "how" is to drop the idea, and focus on reality. Become now.
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Re: The discipline called Philosophy.

Postby Fixed Cross » Sun May 27, 2012 3:15 pm

James S Saint wrote:"Life" is the "First Discipline".

Philosophy secondly comes into the picture as to "How".

Rather, "what" and even "why". Making conscious of valuing. But for a completely sapient being, life is subservient to philosophy. Life is always subservient to the capacity to recognize values. Philosophy is the cognizing of this capacity.
" The strong do what they have to do and the weak accept what they have to accept. "
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Re: The discipline called Philosophy.

Postby James S Saint » Sun May 27, 2012 3:48 pm

pljames wrote::-k What comes first life or how? Every word has to have a meaning, a understanding.
...Sharing this knowledge is (wisdom).

Before there was question, before there was knowledge, before there was understanding, there was life.

Until life encounters a problem that it cannot easily handle, there is no discipline to anything but the process of living.
When that first discipline is seriously challenged, new disciplines are sought so as to aid it.
Only when old disciplines are seriously challenged are new disciplines found.

Christianity was not born out of the satisfaction in the Roman world, but rather the dissatisfaction.
Science was not born out of the satisfaction of the Christian world, but rather the dissatisfaction.
Rational Metaphysics and Value Ontology were not born out of the satisfaction of the Science world, but rather to answer to the needs which Science could not.

Philosophies are discovered and formulated so as to respond to the limits of the efforts, the disciplines, before them.
There is no interest or impetus to know how or why concerning anything until the discipline called "survival" is challenged.
Many trees grow bearing a variety of fruits, but the first tree is the Tree of Life.

It is only to firm up the roots and under-standing of that Tree of Life that the trees of knowledge and wisdom are created and brought to discipline.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Gain is obtained by giving a lot and keeping a little.
Those who too ardently seek to be seen as correct, see only correctness in themselves.
The Social Paradox - to be well grounded and soundly harmonious, one must rise above the dirt and noise.
The One God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: The discipline called Philosophy.

Postby Drusus » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:24 pm

pljames wrote::-k Philosophy is the first discipline (I think). First comes curiosity then questions statements and answers. All disciplines have questions. I would seem all humans historically have some form of rules and behavior. There are order and disorder. Both cannot exist in the same space. But to follow a discipline one has to understand it. I chose Philosophy as one of my first philosophies because it is said (it was the first one). I love asking questions statements and answers. But only to learn understand and share. I feel sharing is wisdom. Sharing for sharings sake and not selfishness.

I now understand better the sentence (the love of wisdom). pl
If one shares wrong facts, it is not wisdom, some mistake beautiful rethorics with truth, which it is not.
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