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Postby thinkdr » Thu May 31, 2012 2:32 am

QUESTION: Do you have all the quality of life that you want?

If the answer is “Yes,” my response is: “You’re happy?! Good luck to you.”

If your answer is “No” or “Not yet,” I say, “Would you like to gain more value in your life?” If you would like that, you can do it. You have to create it. There is a step-by-step process that gains you added value – and this includes more money for you too. Once you make a choice to add value you will need to go in the Intrinsic direction. I will later explain what this means exactly.

Do you know that some values are more valuable than others? The science of values has a proof based on logic that a single thing, even a piece of material, is worth more than all the doctrines, ideologies, theories and systems put together. And furthermore one life is worth more than all the things in the world. The Intrinsic Values …some of which are Life, Love, Community, Family, Goodness, Truth, Beauty, Respect, Dignity, Individuality, Responsibility, Integrity, Authenticity, etc. … are the most-valuable values, They are to be treasured. They are the I-values, the Intrinsic. They are applications of I-Value, one of the three basic dimensions.

The material world, the social-economic world, the everyday world of know-how and practicality, are the Extrinsic Values, the E-Values, for short. A role as a student, a parent, having a career, a profession …all this has value, but way, way less than the I-Values. I-Value trumps E-Value. And, as value, E-Value is far better than S-Value. S-Value stands for the Systemic values.

Systems, the Systemic Values (such as the financial values, the project-management values, the technical analyses, math, the money-system, etc.), although they’re worth the least, they have their place. They have a purpose. What is it?

Systems exist for making the most efficient and effective use of our extrinsic resources. Do you know the distinction between efficiency and effectiveness? “Efficiency” means employing just the right amount of energy and material for a project to gain maximum output. It is doing the most with the least. [For example, it is far more efficient to use tidal power as a source of energy than it is to use coal, because the hidden costs of using coal (or oil, or nuclear) are too high.]

“Effectiveness” though is using that output, of which I spoke, for the greatest-good effect. That effect is ultimately defined as ‘quality-of-life.’ There is no point in producing anything if it doesn’t enhance the quality of life, if it doesn’t somehow make for the well-being of the human species, for the well-being of the individuals who are the members of that family.

What really motivates us is the desire to have a greater quality of life – and that is one of the Intrinsic Values. It’s an I-Value.

So we have introduced what is known as the Logical Hierarchy of Values; it can be expressed in a formula: I is better than E, which in turn is better than S,

This Hierarchy is a discovery of the Founder of Value Science, Dr. Robert S. Hartman, a genius who gave us the definition of “value” as “the fulfillment of purpose.” When the properties of something (even partly) match the ideal you have in mind for things of that sort, you will tend to call it “valuable.” If they completely match, if it’s all there, if it has everything it’s supposed to have in your picture of it, you will likely call it “good.” So now we know what goodness is: it’s the actual (fully) matching the ideal.


THE PROCESS OF CONTINUOUS VALUE-GENERATION


If you ask the average person, say a man who runs a small business, what he wants, he might reply “I want more money” or “I want more customers coming in through my door.” After he gains a certain wisdom he realizes that it is not really more customers that he wants – the money is secondary; it is a means to an end – what he really wants is a greater quality of life. …more leisure, friends to share it with, better relationships, more recognition, more love. He wants a more valuable life, a more-meaningful life. He wants to optimize his well-being, the quality of his life.

How do you do that? Every choice you make either subtracts value or adds value. Do you want to add value, to increase the quality of living? If you do, you need to think in terms of value creation. We need to ask ourselves: What can I do in this situation to create greater value? It helps if we live with that question in mind: how can I add value to each specific situation in which I find myself? For adding value is what it’s all about. To create greater value we go in the direction of Intrinsic Value. How can I - all things considered - make this a gain for all the people concerned? Where is the mutual benefit? How can we all gain? How can we form a Win-Win relationship? How can I pursue what adds to the quality of human life?

When we use the Hierarchy of Value we gain value; when we don’t, we lose value. :geek: {As you know, value is a function of properties: the more properties, potentially the more value. A life, or a love, has an indeterminately-high number of properties, more than you can count. To remove properties is to go in the direction of death; to enhance properties, or value, is to make for more life. We need to compose value, to lift up one another, to boost, to approve, to enhance, to compliment, to support life, to help it flourish. This is how we add value.}

A side-benefit of systems, such as norms, rules, the good laws, traffic lights, and the other common goods that we share, is that they create trust; they provide a certain dependability. Human social structures flourish when there is a climate of trust. The opposite would be the worst-society imaginable, one in which nobody trusts anybody else. The more we trust each other the happier we are. A society with a higher level of happiness is also one with a higher quality of life. The best leaders and executives will arrange it so that more citizens or more of the employees are happy persons. There are ways it can be done; and there are examples of businesses and of countries where it already is being done.

Value is the glue that makes things work. It is a force in the universe like gravity, energy, time and space. It is basic. People are value-generating creatures. This fact is to human nature what gravity is to physical nature. Folks need to get clarity about Value; they need to be aware of the Hierarchy of Values, and to go in the intrinsic direction. In this way the inhabitants of this planet – including me and you - will gain value and will have a higher quality of life.

Can we agree on these basics? :)

I'd like to know what you think about all this? Any comments? Or Questions? Improvements?
For further reading and insight into the topics of Ethics check out these links, and thereby add to your reading enjoyment.
LIVING THE GOOD LIFE http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/Living_The_Good_Lifef.pdf

For the booklet A UNIFIED THEORY OF ETHICShttp://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/A%20UNIFIED%20THEORY%20OF%20ETHICS.pdf

Written in dialogue form, it depicts moral philosophers sitting around a table with the task of constructing a theory of ethics which is better than anything seen before. This booklet is the first of four parts. The other three parts are the following:

For the booklet ETHICAL ADVENTURES http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/ETHICAL%20ADVENTURES.pdf

For the essay, ETHICAL EXPLORATIONS - http://tinyurl.com/22ohd2x

For the paper ASPECTS OF ETHICS http://tinyurl.com/36u6gpo

To avoid technicalities once you google this textbook you may skip to page 20. Marvin C. Katz - ETHICS: A College Course.
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Re: STEPS TO VALUE CREATION

Postby Joe Schmoe » Thu May 31, 2012 4:00 am

I really like the your post.

As for for input...

thinkdr wrote:Do you have all the quality of life you want?


This is a tricky question. I would have to answer no. It's tricky because I am still questioning Life. Information/Knowledge could be considered a type of value which I personally desire, in order to be content with my Life. Since I am still seeking information in regards to Life, it's hard to honestly draw conclusions in regards to Life.

thinkdr wrote:Would you like to gain more value in your life?

I'd like to understand what value can be attained in Life, then I'd understand whether to seek it or not.

Do you know that some values are more valuable than others? The science of values has a proof based on logic that a single thing, even a piece of material, is worth more than all the doctrines, ideologies, theories and systems put together.

Why is this so?

I don't believe a planet a billion light years away is of more value to me than all doctrines, ideologies, theories and systems put together.

Value is subjective and relative to the subject.

Do you say any material will always be greater than all Systematic value?

thinkdr wrote:A life, or a love, has an indeterminately-high number of properties, more than you can count. To remove properties is to go in the direction of death; to enhance properties, or value, is to make for more life. We need to compose value, to lift up one another, to boost, to approve, to enhance, to compliment, to support life, to help it flourish. This is how we add value.

Exactly.

But, there's a question. Is it more in line with out I-Values to come to peace with death, rather than embrace Life? The process of attaining your values is Life affirming, but once you accomplish this, you lose all drive, for you have what you desire.

So it could be said the actual attainment of value, is death affirming. It aides death, not life. Life is the struggle to exist. Death is the absence of struggle.

What is it I truly seek? Perhaps it was never 'Life' as we know it, but rather to experience comfort and peace. These feelings can only be experienced in life (??), but they don't aide your survival, quite the opposite.

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Again, I think I'm very close to agreement with you and I enjoy reading this.
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Re: STEPS TO VALUE CREATION

Postby thinkdr » Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:34 am

Joe Schmoe wrote:I really like the your post.

Do you know that some values are more valuable than others? The science of values has a proof based on logic that a single thing, even a piece of material, is worth more than all the doctrines, ideologies, theories and systems put together.


Why is this so?


You ask why. The two paragraphs that immediately follow (in the o.p.) the one you just quoted go toward explaining it, as well as does this point here: "...the Logical Hierarchy of Values; it can be expressed in a formula: I is better than E, which in turn is better than S." That writing introduces the reader to the Logical Hierarchy - which can be summed up in this formula I > E > S.

The proof of the validity of the formula is based upon the idea that values themselves can have the Axiom of Value - the definition of "value" - applied to them. When the three basic dimensions of value are themselves valued this formula is what results. It is because the dimensions are defined by the number of properties each is said to have. IV has a continuum of properties, an uncountable number; EV has a countable number (a set the size of the Integers); and SV has a finite (but elastic) number of properties.
For further details, see the thread What Makes Anything Valuable? http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=179257 Perhaps it could help explicate the topic and might shed some light on it.

Joe Schmoe wrote:I don't believe a planet a billion light years away is of more value to me than all doctrines, ideologies, theories and systems put together.

"A planet a billion light years away" is appropriately valued Systemically [unless you are a poet, fascinated by it and writing a poem to it], since it seems like a hypothesis that it is even real; and thus it has the same value as theories, namely, SV. It seems to me, though I may be wrong, it is theoretical, as far as you know for sure.

Joe Schmoe wrote:Do you say any material will always be greater than all Systematic value?


Yes, if it is valued that way. Most people would agree that the material world and the material in it are Extrinsic values. (EVs). A person can, of course, Intrinsically-value a systemic value, such as a book, or an ideology (as Fundamentalists do), but then we are getting into what in The Calculus of Value is exponentiation. We then deal with a second-order value, as they would say in Type Theory. (Alonzo Church has adopted Type Theory in his Higher Order Logic, q.v.) When a basic value is itself valued by another value this is depicted in symbols by raising to a power. V-to-the-V. Let's leave it at that for now. It gets complex. To get acquainted with Value Science, see this journal article by R. S. Hartman - http://hartmaninstitute.org/Portals/0/html-files/AxiologyAsAScience.html

Joe Schmoe wrote: Is it more in line with out I-Values to come to peace with death, rather than embrace Life? The process of attaining your values is Life affirming, but once you accomplish this, you lose all drive, for you have what you desire.
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Again, I think I'm very close to agreement with you and I enjoy reading this.


It is not an SV, an either-or choice: one can both embrace life AND come to peace with death. And that is IV :!:

{Incidentally, that last remark reminds me of the the little story about the Zen master and the belligerent samurai who challenged him,which you will find on p. 18 in LIVING THE GOOD LIFE - http://tinyurl.com/28mtn56 The samurai warrior demands that the enlightened teacher explain to him what is heaven? and what is hell?}

As to your enjoyment of the post -- Glad to be of service. I'm happy that you liked it. And thanks for your kind support.


All questions, comments, impressions, and suggestions are welcome !
Last edited by thinkdr on Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:08 am, edited 1 time in total.
For further reading and insight into the topics of Ethics check out these links, and thereby add to your reading enjoyment.
LIVING THE GOOD LIFE http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/Living_The_Good_Lifef.pdf

For the booklet A UNIFIED THEORY OF ETHICShttp://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/A%20UNIFIED%20THEORY%20OF%20ETHICS.pdf

Written in dialogue form, it depicts moral philosophers sitting around a table with the task of constructing a theory of ethics which is better than anything seen before. This booklet is the first of four parts. The other three parts are the following:

For the booklet ETHICAL ADVENTURES http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/ETHICAL%20ADVENTURES.pdf

For the essay, ETHICAL EXPLORATIONS - http://tinyurl.com/22ohd2x

For the paper ASPECTS OF ETHICS http://tinyurl.com/36u6gpo

To avoid technicalities once you google this textbook you may skip to page 20. Marvin C. Katz - ETHICS: A College Course.
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Re: STEPS TO VALUE CREATION

Postby James S Saint » Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:59 am

thinkdr wrote:the definition of “value” as “the fulfillment of purpose.”

Why didn't you say that in your other thread concerning Value?
I would have agreed with that statement/definition.

thinkdr wrote:When the properties of something (even partly) match the ideal you have in mind for things of that sort, you will tend to call it “valuable.”

But not that one.

thinkdr wrote:What can I do in this situation to create greater value? It helps if we live with that question in mind: how can I add value to each specific situation in which I find myself? For adding value is what it’s all about. To create greater value we go in the direction of Intrinsic Value. How can I - all things considered - make this a gain for all the people concerned? Where is the mutual benefit? How can we all gain? How can we form a Win-Win relationship? How can I pursue what adds to the quality of human life?

Agreed (but been there, done that).

thinkdr wrote:A life, or a love, has an indeterminately-high number of properties, more than you can count. To remove properties is to go in the direction of death; to enhance properties, or value, is to make for more life.

I can't agree with that one.

thinkdr wrote:We need to compose value, to lift up one another, to boost, to approve, to enhance, to compliment, to support life, to help it flourish. This is how we add value.}

A side-benefit of systems, such as norms, rules, the good laws, traffic lights, and the other common goods that we share, is that they create trust; they provide a certain dependability. Human social structures flourish when there is a climate of trust. The opposite would be the worst-society imaginable, one in which nobody trusts anybody else. The more we trust each other the happier we are. A society with a higher level of happiness is also one with a higher quality of life. The best leaders and executives will arrange it so that more citizens or more of the employees are happy persons. There are ways it can be done; and there are examples of businesses and of countries where it already is being done.

Value is the glue that makes things work. It is a force in the universe like gravity, energy, time and space. It is basic. People are value-generating creatures. This fact is to human nature what gravity is to physical nature. Folks need to get clarity about Value; they need to be aware of the Hierarchy of Values, and to go in the intrinsic direction. In this way the inhabitants of this planet – including me and you - will gain value and will have a higher quality of life.

Can we agree on these basics? :)

I'd like to know what you think about all this? Any comments? Or Questions? Improvements?

The rest I can agree with.

But I have to complain a bit about the need for clarity as to exactly HOW to do those things, not merely that they should be attended to.

If you read my signature, I point out the metaphysics involved in the ultimate formula for life. Note that "momentum toward self-harmony" is the goal. On that, it seems we agree. It also seems that we agree on the issue of "Clarity" as you pointed out.

But now, none of that tells much to the lay person about what they can do in order to accomplish those ideals concerning I-value.

Is your solution to merely "be nice"?
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Gain is obtained by giving a lot and keeping a little.
Those who too ardently seek to be seen as correct, see only correctness in themselves.
The Social Paradox - to be well grounded and soundly harmonious, one must rise above the dirt and noise.
The One God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: STEPS TO VALUE CREATION

Postby Ierrellus » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:51 pm

An erstwhile friend once told me that a hamburger was worth more than my philosophy. Am I happy being who and where I am? Not if happiness depends on my ability to see better days ahead while existing in the worse days behind.
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Re: STEPS TO VALUE CREATION

Postby thinkdr » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:12 pm

James S Saint wrote:
thinkdr wrote:the definition of “value” as “the fulfillment of purpose.”

Why didn't you say that in your other thread concerning Value?
I would have agreed with that statement/definition.

I got the ideas for the o.p. from a discussion with Peter Demerest, who is the co-author with Harvey Schoof of the book ANSWERING THE CENTRAL QUESTION, a book I highly recommend as it deals with the concern you express at the end of your post here, namely, HOW?

It gives methods of procedure, and many examples and illustrations, as to the techniques of implementation. In that book, they define "value" this way....as fulfillment of purpose (intention.) The book addresses the layman, the person in the street, as well as CEOs and other executives and managers. It speaks plainly, in everyday language. Yet it deals with profound concepts. It shares insights from Neurology and from Value science.

James S Saint wrote:
thinkdr wrote:What can I do in this situation to create greater value? It helps if we live with that question in mind: how can I add value to each specific situation in which I find myself? For adding value is what it’s all about. To create greater value we go in the direction of Intrinsic Value. How can I - all things considered - make this a gain for all the people concerned? Where is the mutual benefit? How can we all gain? How can we form a Win-Win relationship? How can I pursue what adds to the quality of human life?

Agreed (but been there, done that).
...The rest I can agree with.... Note that "momentum toward self-harmony" is the goal. On that, it seems we agree. It also seems that we agree on the issue of "Clarity" as you pointed out.

But now, none of that tells much to the lay person about what they can do in order to accomplish those ideals concerning I-value.

Is your solution to merely "be nice"?

No. It is not merely to be nice. In fact, I don't recall saying that anywhere.

I have made suggestions, and policy proposals, in my thread "The Beautiful Simplicity of Ethical Concepts", and in "The Natural/Logical Law of Conduct." I offered more of a solution in the four-part book A UNIFIED THEORY OF ETHICS, links to which were given at the end of the first post on The Beautiful Simplicity. thread. You may find some thought-provoking ideas in, say, the fourth brief section entitled "Aspects of Ethics: Views through a new lens. http://tinyurl.com/36u6gpo

We need to do everything we can to minimize suffering. This directs us to drastically reduce the average level of poverty in society. We must learn to do whatever it takes. (One thing the "lay person" in the USA can do to reduce misery is to vote for a community organizer to be President, and vote for people running for Congress who sincerely and deeply promise to back him up, pledge to support him in every way.) If we care about people, which is what Ethics shows is in our best interest to do, we must find a way to get a basic level of food, clothing, and shelter to the impoverished, miserable, deprived, hungry people of this world. Bucky Fuller had designs for portable shelters that can be air-dropped. We already know how to turn every desert into a garden or into a solar farm. We just have, up til now, lacked the sense of values to know what projects take priority; and the clarity to see how they will benefit every member of society, even the super-rich. If now we understand, let's apply the principles of Ethics and morality. let's go to it !
For further reading and insight into the topics of Ethics check out these links, and thereby add to your reading enjoyment.
LIVING THE GOOD LIFE http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/Living_The_Good_Lifef.pdf

For the booklet A UNIFIED THEORY OF ETHICShttp://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/A%20UNIFIED%20THEORY%20OF%20ETHICS.pdf

Written in dialogue form, it depicts moral philosophers sitting around a table with the task of constructing a theory of ethics which is better than anything seen before. This booklet is the first of four parts. The other three parts are the following:

For the booklet ETHICAL ADVENTURES http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/ETHICAL%20ADVENTURES.pdf

For the essay, ETHICAL EXPLORATIONS - http://tinyurl.com/22ohd2x

For the paper ASPECTS OF ETHICS http://tinyurl.com/36u6gpo

To avoid technicalities once you google this textbook you may skip to page 20. Marvin C. Katz - ETHICS: A College Course.
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Re: STEPS TO VALUE CREATION

Postby James S Saint » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:39 pm

Well, okay, all of that is what I simply put as "being nice".

Now my concern is that such behavior has an adversary, a very substantial adversary. And that is why people aren't already doing it.

Telling people that it is a good idea and even explaining the logic behind it, doesn't affect that adversary. Giving people food and shelter merely annoys that adversary and inspires trouble.

So the real question is "how do such ethics prevent an adversary from countering the misery reducing effects?"

Any system of ethics MUST be able to inherently defend itself from entropy (without having to break the rules in order to do it).
If it doesn't defend itself inherently, then it isn't "valuable".
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Gain is obtained by giving a lot and keeping a little.
Those who too ardently seek to be seen as correct, see only correctness in themselves.
The Social Paradox - to be well grounded and soundly harmonious, one must rise above the dirt and noise.
The One God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: STEPS TO VALUE CREATION

Postby thinkdr » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:35 am

{Recall that the logical Hierarchy of Values reads: I > E > S.} If you understand this and see the logic in it, you may say to yourself “People are precious. People are worth more than things; and even things are better (worth more) than ideologies,, dogmas, folkways, ceremonies and rituals that stress how you and I have nothing in common with those “others” and how we can’t work together with them for mutually-beneficial goals." You will then affirm " I care about people ! “ --

Once you care you will want to add value: You will in each situation inquire “How can I upgrade, improve, be constructive, show love, , give of myself, serve, reconcile, or empathize?

This will become a habit – you will continuously be seeking to add value in every situation. If you are alone you will do something to improve yourself so that you will be in a stronger position to uplift or contribute to a better life for others when you do come into contact with another person or with a group of them.

(For example, if you have an artistic gift of any sort you will be practicing it so that you may entertain others or elicit a smile from them. If you have some engineering talent you will be “finding a need and filling it” by some creative efforts on your part.) You will be aware and appreciate how you are actually helping yourself in this process …to be all that you have within you to be, to fulfill your own value. You will thus develop character, a good character.

Modern Virtue Ethics allows that people have a special responsibility to care for family members as a priority. If one can’t have peace with his own brother, or with his wife, how is he ever going to experience peace in the world - assuming that he views the latter as a desideratum. So if she is agitated over something it is up to him to calm her down and transform the situation into a beautiful, serene outcome. It would help if he was knowledge-able in some techniques of conflict resolution, and if he sets an example of someone at peace with himself.

Whatever applies to one spouse also applies to the other; she may be calming him down if he is over-excited or giving in to his negative passions or his vices. Eventually, as he develops higher degrees of morality, he may come to regard everyone as his family. He may be friendly to all he encounters, and have good will toward all individuals. He will then have become part of the answer instead of part of the problem. He will be applying Ethics; and living it.

Forum members and guests: Your comments are invited and welcomed.
For further reading and insight into the topics of Ethics check out these links, and thereby add to your reading enjoyment.
LIVING THE GOOD LIFE http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/Living_The_Good_Lifef.pdf

For the booklet A UNIFIED THEORY OF ETHICShttp://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/A%20UNIFIED%20THEORY%20OF%20ETHICS.pdf

Written in dialogue form, it depicts moral philosophers sitting around a table with the task of constructing a theory of ethics which is better than anything seen before. This booklet is the first of four parts. The other three parts are the following:

For the booklet ETHICAL ADVENTURES http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/ETHICAL%20ADVENTURES.pdf

For the essay, ETHICAL EXPLORATIONS - http://tinyurl.com/22ohd2x

For the paper ASPECTS OF ETHICS http://tinyurl.com/36u6gpo

To avoid technicalities once you google this textbook you may skip to page 20. Marvin C. Katz - ETHICS: A College Course.
Enjoy !!
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