Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Moreno, that would be natural since we are pack/herd/social animals. We enjoy pretending we have overcome that nature but, we have a long way to go to actually do it.

People’s unreasonable faith in technology is absolutely astonishing.

Its stupid, only weak people require stroking like dogs, ~ oh haven’t he/she done well, is all we get on tv these days. Now have a sweetie for being good at something and fuck off. lol

First they invented the plough and our lives got better…etc

so far inventions have given is lots of stuff, and we like lots of stuff. Even better, most of us don’t do hard manual labour. Better go jogging and tell yourself you are good at something, or we’ll all fall off the edge of the planet.

They are so “good”, and in reality they are cynic and false (=> “left”).

When being cynic becomes a societal system, so that we can call it “cynism”, then all governers, all politicians, all rich people, all followers behave according to cynism. All others can only fight this cynism by being kynic (= counter-cynic). Many of those polically correct (pc) cynics do not notice what is wrong with them.

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Soon security robots will have greater human rights than you.

YOU have NO right to offend these honorable servants of your masters.

When will they become cynics? :sunglasses:

I don’t mind security robots like those, because i’m the kind of low class citizen who would otherwise have to do shit jobs like that. This is what people don’t realise, robots like any other machine will do the shit we don’t want to. I was once offered a job in a factory, putting something in a machine pressing a button then taking it out again, oh how I wished for another machine which can push that damn button.

On the other hand, I equally don’t want robots being my boss and doing shit for them.

Yeah. :wink:

What if robots become more and more humanoid, thus android?

They will be very sexy. As a great deal of what it took to develop the internet went to porn, cause its profitable, the most use people will get out of androids is sex surrogates. No doubt.

I believe you have said this before, but it is simply not the case. Machines are already taking management level jobs. So far they cannot do an entire, for example, human resources job, but a company that once had 4 HR managers, now needs three or two, because they have machines that can do portions of the jobs. So jobs that people might conceivably want are being eliminated. Of course people might prefer security guard jobs to not having money for their families. They might also use them to move up the ladder as starter jobs.

Then why did you take the job?

That is already happening also, since, in the example I mentioned the HR machines are hooked into performance statistics, in some cases, for workers. So the machines can see how fast everyone is doing every task - on the intranet - and sending out memoes to those who are slow, snitching them out to human managers and so on. Not AI stuff yet, but that is coming.

I wonder how that security robot would fare against a couple of rifle bullets…

They will make them to do better than a human would. In fact they probably already are better. I mean, a head shot to a human and you bury them. YOu can repair a robot. Hell, later models will appreciate the information, use the trajectory of the bullet to aim return fire.

I should have added in my previous post to you that what the HR machines are doing in this case is taking specific portions of the jobs that current machines can handle. Yes, if these were all the HR managers did, it would be a shit job, but as part of a varied job with many different types of tasks these need not be boring. And now their jobs are more monochromatic. They also are expected, more and more, to perform their tasks in a machinelike way. Everything is broken down into assembly line repetitive processes that the machines monitor, even at the managerial level. So there is not only replacement of decent professional positions (and also those you are calling shit jobs) but all jobs are speeding up and being treated like the tasks of machines and being monitored by smart but not AI machines. This trend is the result of not just smart machines, but they definitely help it along, and AIs will eliminate ever more portions of and entire jobs, including professional ones.

Just as the globalization of manufacting, then many service/call center jobs has reduced prosperity in the West, the rise of the machines will continue this reduction. Anything that can cut costs. This has nothing to do with making jobs more interesting, and all to do with reduction of cost. Humans are seen as cost.

So, what you’re telling me is that what we need is explosives and projectile type bombs. Gotcha.

When in doubt blow the living shit out of it…

Well, sure. The point was mainly that it does not become some sort of easy pickings when security guards move from human to robotic.

After they have banned all guns and potential weapons.

Because he has lived in the margins of society - no long term employment, brushes with the law, minimal incomes, sleeping on people’s couches and outside
he is a ninja mad max combination type anti-hero
and will always have access to guns and is a great shot though he hasn’t fired the various weapons he mentions.

Because having imagined it is the same thing as having done it. You might not have realized that, nor how well he has imagined his future solutions to any problems you have thought of.

He has seen it in his mind, James. Seen himself doing this cool stuff.

robots will be at our image, if we regard ourselves as obsolete, they will act accordingly.

The robotics paradigm can only be stretched to a certain point, beyond that point, we enter an ET like realm and robots will no longer suit our environment. Highly advanced robots and AI should be used to build “floating space cities” or/and organize departures to conquer outer space, spread Life with the hope that they do not parasite less advanced species, genetically modify them for their own agenda. What may have happened with us, I dont believe in the missing link.

The world needs a new futuristic philosophy to overcome the challenges, curse and blessing of Knowledge. There is a solution but which refutes an earth centered premise.

What will happen, has already happened innumerable times. Our ancient gods were android-type beings , robotically developed cyborgs, who saw aesthetics rise above their limitations. They saw the need to start over a new paradise, unclothed , and naive, so that aspirations could again give rise to the conceptual workings of a soul. Without it, all hope is lost, and no one escapes the abyss.