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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby Arminius » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:37 am

Why do humans have their language?

1) Language is a very much elaborated form of communication (information system) - there is an interdependence between language and communication (information system).
2) Language serves and supports thinking - there is an interdependence between language and thinking.
1 + 2) Language is a cultural tool - there is an interdependence between language and culture.

Without language humans would almost exclusively be like animals: (1) they would not speak but merely communicate like animals; (2) they could not have philosophy and other elaborated systems of thinking; (1 + 2) they would not have their own cultural tool, the typical human tool for culture.

For example:

If you are capable of using fire, then you are powerful and can defend yourself against all animals, sit at your bonfire and talk with other hunters about the hunt, about the past and the future, thus you have more leisure, more luxury; and this gives you and your culture a push in all directions, especially in spritual / intellectual directions, and then a feedback from all those directions.
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby Arminius » Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:16 pm

Language has an innate and a non-innate feature. The capability of language learning is an innate feature, but if the environment of the said infant is without language, then this infant will not learn any language, and if an adult has never had any language experiences, then the language learning is almost impossible for this adult. So there is a critical point of time as a border for the capability of language learning. The capability of language learning gets lost (the older a human becomes the more the capability of language learning gets lost), generally and especially, if there is no language environment, no possibility of language exercises.
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby Arminius » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:13 pm

The workload and the speed of a little child's language learning are not to top after the age of that little child who learns the language for the first time.
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby Arminius » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:01 pm

Language is more than communication. The science of language is called "linguistics". The following Illustration shows linguistics as the system of language within the "universe of the eight greatest systems" (physics, chemistry, economy, semiotics, linguistics, philosophy, mathematics):

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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby James S Saint » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:21 pm

Arminius wrote:Language is more than communication. The science of language is called "linguistics". The following Illustration shows linguistics as the system of language within the "universe of the eight great systems":

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Seems odd that in that picture biology and economics are on the same level. :confusion-scratchheadblue:

And where is Governance? :-k
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby Arminius » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:41 pm

James S Saint wrote:
Arminius wrote:Language is more than communication. The science of language is called "linguistics". The following Illustration shows linguistics as the system of language within the "universe of the eight great systems":

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Seems odd that in that picture biology and economics are on the same level. :confusion-scratchheadblue:

And where is Governance? :-k

Yes, but it merely seems so. I had to decide whether I name that system "economics" or "politics" or "sociology", and I decided to name it "economics". The word "economics" has its roots in the Ancient Greek words "oikos" ("house", "flat", "home") and "nomos" ("law"). This is close to "SAM", isn't it? :)

So the governance is in the system "economics".
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby Arminius » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:57 pm

And biology and economics are on the same level (2) and also not on the same level (II and III):

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Physics: 1a and Ib.
Chemistry: 1b and IIa.
Biology: 2a and IIb.
Economics: 2b and IIIa.
Semiotics: 3a and IIIb.
Linguistics: 3b and IVa.
Philosophy: 4a and IVb.
Mathematics: 4b and Ia.

1) Anorganic.
2) Organic.
3) Mental.
4) Spriritual.
I) Order (means mainly ordinary mode of being).
II) Matter (means mainly material mode of being).
III) Function (means mainly functional mode of being).
IV) Consciousness (means mainly conscious or phenomenal mode of being).
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby James S Saint » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:53 am

Although the word "economics" can be used in a variety of ways, unless very obviously differentiated, it refers to money. And when money is used to govern without the other two segments of governing, it degrades into nothing but extortion - modern USA and Europe.

Perhaps "Sociology" would fit better?
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby objet petit a » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:28 am

Arminius, are you writing this for yourself?
Because almost all posts are yours. it is not to get opinions, or information, I think.
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby Arminius » Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:57 pm

objet petit a wrote:Arminius, are you writing this for yourself?

Not really.

objet petit a wrote:Because almost all posts are yours. it is not to get opinions, or information, I think.

I am just trying to make the thread more interesting. Most ILP members are not interested in linguistics - and, by the way, also not interested in demography or in comparison of economics with sociology or psychology. They are not even interested in philosophy.

Arminius wrote:I suggest to reform ILP and to call it "IL" with the following eight subforums:

(1) ILF ("I Love Fun"),
(2) ILG ("I Love Gossip"),
(3) ILL ("I Love Lies"),
(4) ILN 1 ("I love Nietzsche"),
(5) ILN 2 ("I love Nonsense"),
(6) ILN 3 ("I Love Nothing"),
(7) ILP ("I Love Philsophy") (that means: averagely merely 12.5% (1/8) are really interested in philosophy),
(8) ILSC ("I Love Social Criticism").
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby objet petit a » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:09 pm

I agree that a whole lot of people visiting fora are doing so because they want to gain recognition. But still, if you would have stuck to your initial idea, I think I would have understood better what you want here. Could you explain it in a few sentences to one as dull witted as I?
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby Arminius » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:50 pm

James S Saint wrote:Although the word "economics" can be used in a variety of ways, unless very obviously differentiated, it refers to money. And when money is used to govern without the other two segments of governing, it degrades into nothing but extortion - modern USA and Europe.

Perhaps "Sociology" would fit better?

Sociology does not contain all economical aspects, and if we want to know the reasons for e.g. extortion, then we primarily have to accept the economical facts, regardless whether we want to or not.
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby Arminius » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:19 pm

objet petit a wrote:I agree that a whole lot of people visiting fora are doing so because they want to gain recognition.

Yes. That's how it is.

objet petit a wrote:But still, if you would have stuck to your initial idea, I think I would have understood better what you want here. Could you explain it in a few sentences to one as dull witted as I?

As far as I remember I started this thread in order to bring more philosophy to ILP by telling about the most important basics of philosophy.
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby objet petit a » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:20 am

A commendable effort, but I think you are not so good at explaining and making a topic attractive to posters is a skill that I lack as well. Getting posters to look up what they are saying first is what i keep trying to accomplish, but that is a hard thing indeed.
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby Arminius » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:43 pm

In my job as a private teacher I have to explain very much, and I am pretty sure that I am good at explaining. 8)

On ILP the situation is a bit different:

Unfortunately ILP has not much to do with explaining, because most ILP members just want recognition and nothing beside it. And unfortunately I have to translate all my thoughts into a foreign language. I am not looking for excuses, because I have to admit that I do not want to address many but merely some ILP members, namely those who are really interested in the topic of the thread.

So actually I am not much interested in making a topic attractive to posters.

They are either interested or not interested.
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby Arminius » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:06 pm

Arminius wrote:
WW_III_ANGRY wrote:A key to philosophy is language.

Yes. Of course. Duh. Without language no philosophy and science.
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby Arminius » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:39 am

Arminius wrote:"Ich glaube" in German means "I believe" in English, and "Ich denke" in German means "I think" in English. Since the late 1960s, certain German people have been fighting a "word battle"; the reason for it is the goal that "Ich denke" shall be used instead of "Ich glaube" which shall die out; the people shall believe that they think and shall not notice that they believe and not think; in this way new believers shall be bred, namely those who do not think / know that they believe but nevertheless believe that they think / know.

Brainwashing.
Arminius wrote:It is not difficult to find out which of the English speakers use the term "I think" or the term "I believe" how often, in which situations and with or without switching. Until the end of the 1960’s German speakers used the term "ich glaube" very much oftener than the term "ich denke" - maybe this ratio was 90 to 10. Since about 1990 certain German speakers have been using the term "ich denke" very much oftener than the term "ich glaube" - maybe this ratio is 99 to 1 (and for all German speakers maybe 80 to 20 or 70 to 30). So the ratio of the use of the terms "ich glaube" and "ich denke" has reversed within merely two decades (1970’s and 1980’s).
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby James S Saint » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:51 am

Arminius wrote:
Arminius wrote:"Ich glaube" in German means "I believe" in English, and "Ich denke" in German means "I think" in English. Since the late 1960s, certain German people have been fighting a "word battle"; the reason for it is the goal that "Ich denke" shall be used instead of "Ich glaube" which shall die out; the people shall believe that they think and shall not notice that they believe and not think; in this way new believers shall be bred, namely those who do not think / know that they believe but nevertheless believe that they think / know.

Brainwashing.
Arminius wrote:It is not difficult to find out which of the English speakers use the term "I think" or the term "I believe" how often, in which situations and with or without switching. Until the end of the 1960’s German speakers used the term "ich glaube" very much oftener than the term "ich denke" - maybe this ratio was 90 to 10. Since about 1990 certain German speakers have been using the term "ich denke" very much oftener than the term "ich glaube" - maybe this ratio is 99 to 1 (and for all German speakers maybe 80 to 20 or 70 to 30). So the ratio of the use of the terms "ich glaube" and "ich denke" has reversed within merely two decades (1970’s and 1980’s).

... The promotion of doubt, suspicion, fear, hatred, and death.

Maturity ≡ knowing that all things in society are done with purpose.
Paranoia ≡ believing one knows who is doing it.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby Arminius » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:00 pm

James S Saint wrote:
Arminius wrote:
Arminius wrote:"Ich glaube" in German means "I believe" in English, and "Ich denke" in German means "I think" in English. Since the late 1960s, certain German people have been fighting a "word battle"; the reason for it is the goal that "Ich denke" shall be used instead of "Ich glaube" which shall die out; the people shall believe that they think and shall not notice that they believe and not think; in this way new believers shall be bred, namely those who do not think / know that they believe but nevertheless believe that they think / know.

Brainwashing.
Arminius wrote:It is not difficult to find out which of the English speakers use the term "I think" or the term "I believe" how often, in which situations and with or without switching. Until the end of the 1960’s German speakers used the term "ich glaube" very much oftener than the term "ich denke" - maybe this ratio was 90 to 10. Since about 1990 certain German speakers have been using the term "ich denke" very much oftener than the term "ich glaube" - maybe this ratio is 99 to 1 (and for all German speakers maybe 80 to 20 or 70 to 30). So the ratio of the use of the terms "ich glaube" and "ich denke" has reversed within merely two decades (1970’s and 1980’s).

... The promotion of doubt, suspicion, fear, hatred, and death.

Maturity ≡ knowing that all things in society are done with purpose.
Paranoia ≡ believing one knows who is doing it.

It is not good when people do not know that they believe but nevertheless believe that they know.
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby James S Saint » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:16 pm

Arminius wrote:It is not good when people do not know that they believe but nevertheless believe that they know.

Yes, I know.
... emmmm..
I mean I believe it to be true.
Well, I fear it to be true.
Or at least I suspect it.
I doubt that it isn't true.

Oh hell, what do I know. :-?
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby Arminius » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:30 pm

James S Saint wrote:
Arminius wrote:It is not good when people do not know that they believe but nevertheless believe that they know.

Yes, I know.
... emmmm..
I mean I believe it to be true.
Well, I fear it to be true.
Or at least I suspect it.
I doubt that it isn't true.

Oh hell, what do I know. :-?

Yea. :wink:
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby Arminius » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:01 pm

"Ich glaube" in German means "I believe" in English, and "Ich denke" in German means "I think" in English. Since the late 1960s, certain German people have been fighting a "word battle"; the reason for it is the goal that "Ich denke" shall be used instead of "Ich glaube" which shall die out; the people shall believe that they think and shall not notice that they believe and not think; in this way new believers shall be bred, namely those who do not think / know that they believe but nevertheless believe that they think / know.

It is not difficult to find out which of the English speakers use the term "I think" or the term "I believe" how often, in which situations and with or without switching. Until the end of the 1960’s German speakers used the term "ich glaube" very much oftener than the term "ich denke" - maybe this ratio was 90 to 10. Since about 1990 certain German speakers have been using the term "ich denke" very much oftener than the term "ich glaube" - maybe this ratio is 99 to 1 (and for all German speakers maybe 80 to 20 or 70 to 30). So the ratio of the use of the terms "ich glaube" and "ich denke" has reversed within merely two decades (1970’s and 1980’s).
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby James S Saint » Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:25 pm

Arminius wrote:"Ich glaube" in German means "I believe" in English, and "Ich denke" in German means "I think" in English. Since the late 1960s, certain German people have been fighting a "word battle"; the reason for it is the goal that "Ich denke" shall be used instead of "Ich glaube" which shall die out; the people shall believe that they think and shall not notice that they believe and not think; in this way new believers shall be bred, namely those who do not think / know that they believe but nevertheless believe that they think / know.

It is not difficult to find out which of the English speakers use the term "I think" or the term "I believe" how often, in which situations and with or without switching. Until the end of the 1960’s German speakers used the term "ich glaube" very much oftener than the term "ich denke" - maybe this ratio was 90 to 10. Since about 1990 certain German speakers have been using the term "ich denke" very much oftener than the term "ich glaube" - maybe this ratio is 99 to 1 (and for all German speakers maybe 80 to 20 or 70 to 30). So the ratio of the use of the terms "ich glaube" and "ich denke" has reversed within merely two decades (1970’s and 1980’s).

In the USA during that same period, it was "I feel" that was to replace "I think" .. for the same reasons. Thinking was being removed from society so that only the chosen would be able. Neurological diseases were spread so as to help ensure retardation and inability to think. Entertainment drugs were added a little later. The mental illnesses and obvious retardation in the population was due entirely to that endeavor.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby Arminius » Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:16 pm

James S Saint wrote:
Arminius wrote:"Ich glaube" in German means "I believe" in English, and "Ich denke" in German means "I think" in English. Since the late 1960s, certain German people have been fighting a "word battle"; the reason for it is the goal that "Ich denke" shall be used instead of "Ich glaube" which shall die out; the people shall believe that they think and shall not notice that they believe and not think; in this way new believers shall be bred, namely those who do not think / know that they believe but nevertheless believe that they think / know.

It is not difficult to find out which of the English speakers use the term "I think" or the term "I believe" how often, in which situations and with or without switching. Until the end of the 1960’s German speakers used the term "ich glaube" very much oftener than the term "ich denke" - maybe this ratio was 90 to 10. Since about 1990 certain German speakers have been using the term "ich denke" very much oftener than the term "ich glaube" - maybe this ratio is 99 to 1 (and for all German speakers maybe 80 to 20 or 70 to 30). So the ratio of the use of the terms "ich glaube" and "ich denke" has reversed within merely two decades (1970’s and 1980’s).

In the USA during that same period, it was "I feel" that was to replace "I think" .. for the same reasons.

Yes. I know.

James S Saint wrote:Thinking was being removed from society so that only the chosen would be able. Neurological diseases were spread so as to help ensure retardation and inability to think. Entertainment drugs were added a little later. The mental illnesses and obvious retardation in the population was due entirely to that endeavor.

Of course.
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Re: Language, language development, language acquisition ...

Postby Arminius » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:28 pm

Arminius wrote:
James S Saint wrote:
Arminius wrote:"Ich glaube" in German means "I believe" in English, and "Ich denke" in German means "I think" in English. Since the late 1960s, certain German people have been fighting a "word battle"; the reason for it is the goal that "Ich denke" shall be used instead of "Ich glaube" which shall die out; the people shall believe that they think and shall not notice that they believe and not think; in this way new believers shall be bred, namely those who do not think / know that they believe but nevertheless believe that they think / know.

It is not difficult to find out which of the English speakers use the term "I think" or the term "I believe" how often, in which situations and with or without switching. Until the end of the 1960’s German speakers used the term "ich glaube" very much oftener than the term "ich denke" - maybe this ratio was 90 to 10. Since about 1990 certain German speakers have been using the term "ich denke" very much oftener than the term "ich glaube" - maybe this ratio is 99 to 1 (and for all German speakers maybe 80 to 20 or 70 to 30). So the ratio of the use of the terms "ich glaube" and "ich denke" has reversed within merely two decades (1970’s and 1980’s).

In the USA during that same period, it was "I feel" that was to replace "I think" .. for the same reasons.

Yes. I know.

James S Saint wrote:Thinking was being removed from society so that only the chosen would be able. Neurological diseases were spread so as to help ensure retardation and inability to think. Entertainment drugs were added a little later. The mental illnesses and obvious retardation in the population was due entirely to that endeavor.

Of course.

There are many examples for the attempt to replace words:

"Glaube" ("belief"), "glauben" ("believe"), "Wahrheit" ("truth"), "wahr" ("true"), "wahrhaft" ("truthful"), "Wahrhaftigkeit" ("truthfulness"), "Mannschaft ("team/crew of men"), ..., and so on.

The anti-religious and feministic globalists are dictating here.
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