Future together in the face of the technoworld.

Mammalian sexuality specializes on divergence and creating difference. This is the obvious case with humanity. Sex is producing more and more, exponential specialization. Races are mixing, for better or worse. Some are remaining white and maintaining “white privilege”. As technology increases and information accumulates, specialization will speed up.

That’s all I see about the future, more specialization.

Well I agree with most if not all of what you just said.

A child plays house. An adult makes an important life decision. Other than that, there is no difference. I think the role of the parent is to introduce life-consequences to children without them actually having to suffer consequences that are too harsh because the child may not be aware of the consequence of sticking his fingers in an electrical outlet, for instance, or deciding they will be a man or woman for life when they don’t have that capacity to make that decision. Heck, I don’t even think people are equipped to decide if they should be married at an age of less than 30 because nobody knows what they want at a younger age.

Right and wrong is subjective but surely there is an age that is too young to know what they want and therefore probably shouldn’t be granted the opportunity to make decisions with grave consequences, but then again there is a view that if kids want to eat laundry detergent, then we should allow the stupid to exterminate themselves. It’s all subjective.

Well, my perspective is that it’s all a game or play anyway, so none of this is terribly serious.

Success is its own undoing. I know this for sure: if you have a pine forest, one bug can leave you with a barren field. Anytime in nature that you collect together one species too similar then it will be wiped out.

I suppose too many rules are better than no rules.

Where is individuality? I don’t see that at all, but only people copying each other. I am the only individual I know.

Everyone thinks different in an effort to be just like each other:

Work with the grain of nature or against it if you want to lose.

Serendipper

First let me just say that you make some very good points - mature ones at that. There is something wrong with our culture however.

It is very difficult for me to disagree here without taking away objectivity. So I will divert the conversation – For us to succeed in a techno-world we are going to have to change our attitudes to fit in with it because there is not going to be enough land for those of us who want to farm for a hobby or start communes or continue other little dreams that require land or situations of the past - one thing we know for certain is that the world does nothing but change, in fact that is the nature of everything.

The population is going to increase << no-one will be able to stop that. We might fail in the end but the end is hundreds of years off not 10 or 20 as some would have you believe. Resources will change, not become scarce. Ways of doing things will change because of it. We as adults need to make important life decisions.

We need to face reality together and leave behind the doomsday BS.

Right and wrong is subjective only to a certain extent - seven billion humans could jump out of aeroplanes at 3000 metres and they would all surely die - that I believe is objectively true and right - and we would be allowing seven billion stupid people to exterminate themselves.

You are kidding right? Nah I am just kidding - lol - We only have to push over one domino to make the others fall and perhaps that first domino has already fallen.

You say success is its own undoing but this clearly is dependent on a few things - why would an ant colony fail if the conditions were always perfect? The answer is because the ants might have gotten lazy.

I loved the Think Different picture - I thought that made a very clear statement. =D>

Yeah our culture is uncultured :wink:

Actually, I see lots of available land in the future because technology improves farming. We could build vertically if we have to.

That is why I encouraged you to check into the venus project. We have the capability to feed everyone with no one working (well, only a few people who really want to tend to things). That’s technically possible.

Yup, oscillations, vibrations (ie change).

I think the global population will rise, level, then fall. Of course, it depends on politics. If we don’t bring the whole world into prosperity, then those populations will overwhelm us, reduce prosperity and slow the process of reaching a point that we don’t breed like rabbits anymore. Numbers of offspring is a function of education (I would say intelligence, but education is a better word).

The countries with high IQ have slow or leveling population growth.

Never bet on the end of the world. It only happens once :wink:

Did you know that a cat can jump from a skyscraper and probably live? (It’s not heavy enough to overcome air resistance to achieve velocity sufficient to kill it with certainty) If 7 billion people jump from a plane, I’d bet that at least one lives :smiley:

See my thread here for more oddities of the universe viewtopic.php?f=4&t=193940

It’s hard to say anything for sure.

Maybe… or they run out of food because too many things favor the success of the ants and they eat it all. Or perhaps some disease will take advantage of such a large population of ants.

I don’t know for sure if someone would die from jumping from a plane, but I’m more sure that if a population grows too large and is too genetically similar, it will be wiped out. Success is always its own undoing. I’ve seen it too many times with plants and animals for me not to assume this is a general “law” and it’s one of the few things dad and I agree on.

The American Chestnut is nearly extinct. The Emerald Ash Borer is working tirelessly to wipe out all the Ash trees and there is nothing we can do about it. Bananas are next. cnn.com/2015/07/22/africa/b … index.html

Yup, the ones who are different are the ones who don’t try to be different :wink:

Ah, your post made my day.

Thanks

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I will be back to respond later. You can count on it.

One thing is certain … the recent population explosion is a “First Occurence” … to underestimate the potential … both good and bad … is naive.

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Source: Paul Ehrlich: “Collapse Of Civilisation Is A Near Certainty Within Decades”

zerohedge.com/news/2018-03- … in-decades

overpopulation and overconsumption are driving us over the edge…

We’re ultimately consuming the energy stored in oil/coal and in plants/food. Oil is really just a buffer filled with sunlight-energy and so we just need our buffer for a bit longer until we’re permeated with cheap solar cells supplying all the energy we could ever need.

The next problem is food, but hydroponic farms powered by solar energy addresses that.

So we have a measure of time before the stores run out until we achieve energy sufficiency regardless of population. The only other limiting factor that I can see is the physical carrying capacity of the earth.

Have a look at this: ourworldindata.org/world-population-growth

google.com/amp/s/www.bloomb … starvation

They just need to bring the rainbow agenda to sub-Saharan Africa now.

:laughing: True

I’ve read that Africa is China’s China. delivered.dhl.com/en/article … china.html

Food availability isn’t the issue … the West probably throws out enough edible food to feed the billion plus hungry people in the world today.

The West hasn’t been hungry for a very long time … and that may be the issue … that may explain the decline of the West … as St Augustine argues … prosperity leads to depravity.

I would say that you have a real point here and history seems to indicate this too. There are those of us from the west that seek to put an end to the moral corruption that is rampant alongside prosperity before it is too late. The west has many achievements to its name and a few of it’s occupants continue to excel at being productive among the wickedness that continues to flourish. The general culture that springs forth from the west would be among the first elements requiring realignment to virtue.

Interesting that the population of Japan has fallen like that. I agree that education is a better world.

I never knew that. It is true what they say: you learn something new everyday.

Think differently definitely has its place in the world.

Neosophi

Two interesting points, one from this thread and one from another thread.

This could also be construed as masculinizing from a feminine perspective.

From another thread, WendyDarling posted:

This most definitely could be a scientific cause for role reversals that are seemingly occurring in male feminization and female masculinization.

With a little imagination one can see that technicalization and sexual convergence have gone hand in hand.

Yes and I can see a day when women probably will not be able to give birth anymore.

I can also see this day, plus I can see a time where technology will be used to make the decision of when to produce babies and when not to produce babies. Hell, I can see a time where human and technology will become an integration of each other - in many ways this is already happening.

Transhumanism

Yes, I’d prefer to be silicon based, I think.

Radical man, I desire to keep my humanity :smiley:

Life is overrated: the prognosis is poor and it invariably ends in death :wink:

With silicon, you last as long as you’re plugged into your solar panel and the sun remains. Never have to sleep or eat. Thinking is always clear as a bell. Won’t need a calculator or spell check for anything. Would be plugged into the grid and instantly know everything that is known. It might get boring after a while though, but we could play games where we dumb ourselves down to have an opportunity to relearn at a slower pace. That kinda reminds me of what is going on now in the universe :-"

I dont think life is overrated but I do agree with the rest of what you are saying here.

I find the last piece of what you have written here to be quite deep - the bit that I have highlighted in blue - it takes my mind away from my shallow moments of just existing. It makes me feel connected to all of existence somehow. I do think however that without the rest of what you wrote the scene would have not been set for it. I appreciate it.