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Re: Objectivity

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:01 pm

surreptitious75 wrote:In one way we are all one existence because we are all part of the same Universe
But we are equally also individual / independent parts of that very same Universe


Physicists don't use the term "universe" much more, instead, they call it the multi verse.

Particularly because of the problems I just outlined.

Our individuality is defined by our lack of omnipresence just as any being.

Do you really think you are omnipresent (thus knowing all things?

I bet you don't even know Attila the Huns middle name, I sure don't !

What makes you think god isn't a "we" just like us?

Certainly not the proofs?

Perhaps the definitions? Like the definition of santa to a 3 year old?
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Re: Objectivity

Postby phyllo » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:04 pm

I bet you don't even know Attila the Huns middle name, I sure don't !
His middle name was 'The'.
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Re: Objectivity

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:41 pm

phyllo wrote:
I bet you don't even know Attila the Huns middle name, I sure don't !
His middle name was 'The'.


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Re: Objectivity

Postby surreptitious75 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:52 pm

Ecmandu wrote:
What makes you think god isnt a we just like us

All gods are non falsifiable and immune to investigation which is why I dont believe in any of them

The best definition of God would be the Universe itself [ or Multiverse ] because nothing is
greater than it and also because it exists and such existence can actually be demonstrated
Pantheism though is false but it still makes way more sense than any of the Abrahamics do
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Re: Objectivity

Postby MagsJ » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:22 am

I'm late to the party, I know.. my thoughts are: I see subjective reality underpinning the objective world.. an omniscient perspective on all things, if you will.. the subjective feeding into the objective.. the objective being the ideal.
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get that time back, and I may need it for something at some point in time. Wait! What?

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Re: Objectivity

Postby surreptitious75 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:53 am

Mags wrote:
the subjective feeding into the objective

This is such a simple phrase that still manages to describe our understanding of existence beautifully because all human
attempts at explaining the objective world are subjective - including the most rigorous ones of science and mathematics
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Re: Objectivity

Postby MagsJ » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:08 am

surreptitious75 wrote:
Mags wrote:
the subjective feeding into the objective

This is such a simple phrase that still manages to describe our understanding of existence beautifully because all human
attempts at explaining the objective world are subjective - including the most rigorous ones of science and mathematics

The bigger picture.. realising the objective view on matters, as a person's view is theirs to have, but there being a 'bigger picture' would denote an objective view traversing/examining the subjective ones.
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get that time back, and I may need it for something at some point in time. Wait! What?

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