WORDS I HATE/LOVE

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WORDS I HATE/LOVE

Postby Slow John » Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:47 pm

words I hate:

marketing

product

media

consumer

customer

service

brand

message

reach

targeting

segmenting

public relations

advertising

words I like:

pond

hug

sweat

firewood

wine

singing

adventure

friend

food

courage

love

inspire

sky

(please share yours below)
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Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

Postby rainey » Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:49 am

Sounds as if somebody is having a crisis with his profession (again).

Anyway, I've always hated the word phlegm. And for some reason I've always liked the word retroactive. It sounds cool. Much cooler than what it means. (Although sometimes what it means can be cool.) But maybe you're going for meaning, and not necessarily sound.
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Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

Postby Slow John » Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:58 pm

Retro is a good prefix. active is a good suffi...almost as good as -matic. As in systematic, automatic, it's hydromatic.

People use retroactive as jargon, and it's douche-speak for going back and changing something. i would like the retroactively not be in marketing.

But it does sound cool.

I think i'll use hydromatic in a sentence at my next bored meeting. but not to describe something qualitative, like a piece of creative. I will use hydromatic to describe a function of SEO or something. And i will say it with a straight face, as if it means something. it does mean something. it means i'm bored.
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Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

Postby rainey » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:27 pm

Retromatic.

Here, I'll use it in a sentence:

"The retromatic synergy should be a real game-changer for us."

You'll own the room.
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Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

Postby Slow John » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:17 am

check and mate, bitch. you always were two steps ahead of me. retromatically speaking.

i think we can do without the rhesus monkey nomenclature. whenever I hear it I think of a monkey with chocolate and peanut butter smeared all over its ass.

I hate the word squamous but i like the word carcinoma, it has a rich but smooth mahogany oeuvre to it – not sure why.

pergo is more fun to say than hardwood, but hardwood is more fun to have.

haven doesn't sound like a safe place – it sounds like a place where people are tortured and sweaty.

grandmother is a perfect word describing the thing it intends to describe.

fred is a dumb sounding name. most compound consonants annoy to hell out of me. frank has fucking two compounds. whoever invented compound consonants was a busybody who ruined practically everything.
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Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

Postby rainey » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:54 am

Ha! Only in a retromatic way could I have ever been considered to be two steps ahead of you.

Carcinoma. That's good. If I didn't know and you told me it was, say, a particularly aromatic brand of cigar, I'd believe it. Yeah, it's an Arturo Fuente Carcinoma, you'd say. Ten bucks a pop.

Pop. That's a good word that sounds like what it is. So is aromatic.

Whisper. That's one. Delicate, too.

I'll probably think of more.
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Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

Postby Slow John » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:00 am

two steps ahead, two steps behind, what's the diff, I tend to travel in a circle.
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Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

Postby Ierrellus » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:40 pm

Words I hate:
absolute
certainty
Words I love:
empathy
compassion
But, if we're doing euphony vs cacaphony here I'll take aluminum over retch.
And if anybody in a philosophy forum uses the prefixes meta- or post-, I'll retch on the aluminum.
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Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

Postby AnitaS » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:40 pm

    Love:
      delphinium
      voluptuous
      velvet
      lyrical
      willow
      illuminate
      delectable


    Don't love:
      squat
      cramped
      vivisect

    My preferences are related more to phonetics than meaning - I don't remember much about my college linguistics class but I think it has something to do with sonorants and fricatives...

    Damn, my post is SO much more boring than the Slow John/rainey exchange. Can't you two get back here and think of some more words to banter back and forth?

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    Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

    Postby Ierrellus » Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:29 pm

    If we are doing euphony vs cacaphony here.I'll take "aluminum" over "retch."
    "We must love one another or die." W.H.Auden
    I admit I'm an asshole. Now, can we get back to the conversation?
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    Arrogance hides a multitude of insecurities.
    Perspectivism may mean never having to say you're certain.
    From the mad poet of McKinley Ave.
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    Solipsism is the last refuge of the intellectually bankrupt.
    Atheism may be the simplistic response to the complex problem of human need.
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    Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

    Postby Ierrellus » Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:43 pm

    But if anyone using a philosophy forum uses the prefixes meta- or post-, I'll retch on the aluminum.
    "We must love one another or die." W.H.Auden
    I admit I'm an asshole. Now, can we get back to the conversation?
    "If you linger to curse the snake that bit you, you will die of its poison."
    Arrogance hides a multitude of insecurities.
    Perspectivism may mean never having to say you're certain.
    From the mad poet of McKinley Ave.
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    Solipsism is the last refuge of the intellectually bankrupt.
    Atheism may be the simplistic response to the complex problem of human need.
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    Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

    Postby AnitaS » Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:06 am

    Ierrellus wrote:But if anyone using a philosophy forum uses the prefixes meta- or post-, I'll retch on the aluminum.

    So, is this what you'd call a meta-post?

    [Yeah, yeah, lame, but it's all I got. :lol: ]

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    Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

    Postby rainey » Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:27 pm

    I like the word "Anita".
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    Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

    Postby Ierrellus » Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:52 pm

    AnitaS wrote:
    Ierrellus wrote:But if anyone using a philosophy forum uses the prefixes meta- or post-, I'll retch on the aluminum.

    So, is this what you'd call a meta-post?

    [Yeah, yeah, lame, but it's all I got. :lol: ]

    Nah, this is what I call my computer--Max Stout. Didn't intend the double posts. I will however only shut one eye when I see metamorphosis.
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    Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

    Postby Ierrellus » Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:01 pm

    Anita person is hard to find!!!
    "We must love one another or die." W.H.Auden
    I admit I'm an asshole. Now, can we get back to the conversation?
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    Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

    Postby AnitaS » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:23 am

      Happy New Year rainey! I hope we'll get to see a little more of you this year. :)

      And Ierrellus, hmmm...

      I'm afraid I'm
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      as I can't think of an adequate response.

      [wrong thread? :wink: ]

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      Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

      Postby Ierrellus » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:12 pm

      AnitaS wrote:
        Happy New Year rainey! I hope we'll get to see a little more of you this year. :)

        And Ierrellus, hmmm...

        I'm afraid I'm
        Image
        as I can't think of an adequate response.

        [wrong thread? :wink: ]

        I'm an inveterate punster, Lady A. I took Anita as "a neater".
        "We must love one another or die." W.H.Auden
        I admit I'm an asshole. Now, can we get back to the conversation?
        "If you linger to curse the snake that bit you, you will die of its poison."
        Arrogance hides a multitude of insecurities.
        Perspectivism may mean never having to say you're certain.
        From the mad poet of McKinley Ave.
        Idealism is the balloon that floats from hot air.
        Solipsism is the last refuge of the intellectually bankrupt.
        Atheism may be the simplistic response to the complex problem of human need.
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        Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

        Postby AnitaS » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:25 pm

        Yep, I got that. :) I'm not so adept; a visual pun was the best I could do by way of response.

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        Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

        Postby Slow John » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:15 am

        phonetics, sonorants and fricatives are lovely, impressive words.

        Fricatives gave me a small orgasm.

        Orgasm is a disturbing word. it feels better than it sounds, but that's not really a fair fight, is it.

        Orgasm sounds like what it is. It packs an explosive munch and is over to soon.

        "orrrrrRRRR....." and then "GASMMmmm....!"

        I remember reading about an orgasm when I was young and I was terrified about having one.

        I was worried I wouldn't be able to handle it. Kind of like fear of taking acid for the first time.

        But I can handle it, all too well, it turns out.

        I am self employed and work at home, but I have to work at Starbucks, so as not to get into "trouble."

        without starbucks i'd never get anything done.

        starbucks is a great word.

        btw, I get paid to write things that are crisp, relevant and disciplined. lately i ghostwrite a shit-ton.

        I have never written the word shit-ton, and I don't ever say it. not sure about the hyphen. that uncertainty argues well for not using the word again.

        but saying ton just seems so tired.

        It's soooooo relaxing to just riff like this, not having to worry whether it's good.
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        Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

        Postby Slow John » Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:06 pm

        i like the word "west"
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        Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

        Postby rainey » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:01 pm

        Riff is a great word.

        So is anonymous. And anonymity. Speaking of ghostwriting. (It's the best thing about it, actually.)
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        Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

        Postby Ierrellus » Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:19 pm

        Poe started all this when he coined the word "tintinabulation" for describing the sound of bells.
        So, what are we asking to see here--
        1. Words we just like? Or hate?
        2. Euphonious words vs cacaphanous words? (sounds)
        3. Words that sound like what they mean?
        4. All of the above?
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        Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

        Postby Slow John » Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:31 am

        No rules, just words you love er hate.

        it started because i don't like marketing jargon, the words actually make my physically ill.

        fuck how can i type anything on this forum when every time I go to write something there's this annoying dancing banana over in the
        emoticon menu to the right.

        This is the guy:

        :banana-dance:

        Jesus. Really?

        I mean, how fucking philosophical am I going to get with that kind of idiocy in my peripheral vision? It's just not very Kantian.

        I hate that banana. Hate him.

        The phrase banana dance is appalling, and it's because of this emoticon. And the stupid peanut butter jelly thing that started it all.

        :banana-dance:

        Time was, I would have thought of harry belafonte or something – the phrase banana dance would have been oddly soothing, quaint, tropical and balmy.

        But now it just means an atrocity of pixels, the bane of user-generated content, a post-modern hell where non-sequitors don't even make ME laugh.

        :banana-dance:

        non-sequitors used to MEAN something to me. until a dancing banana came along and hijacked non-sequitors, ALL non-sequitors.

        This banana is a nonsequitor that KILLED ALL NON SEQUITORS.

        with all our abilities, and so many people suffering, and that banana is all we have to show for it. the world deserves to, I don't know, what, explode?
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        Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

        Postby tentative » Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:43 am

        Slow John wrote:No rules, just words you love er hate.

        it started because i don't like marketing jargon, the words actually make my physically ill.

        fuck how can i type anything on this forum when every time I go to write something there's this annoying dancing banana over in the
        emoticon menu to the right.

        This is the guy:

        :banana-dance:

        Jesus. Really?

        But you're in marketing, right? And you spend the majority of your waking hours producing dancing bananas... or grapes... or some pollyanna with big tits draped over the hood of a car. It's the amurrican way! (oops, off topic) I like the word crotch. It trumps all the other bullshit words in sound and meaning.. say it reeely slow...
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        Re: WORDS I HATE/LOVE

        Postby Slow John » Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:49 am

        You won't catch me saying the word crotch in public, or even in private. It might explain why you're alone these days. But it does speak to the potency and pungency of the word – the fact that I can't say it for fear that my wife, once hearing it, will instantly fall out of love with me permanently. She might even fall out of love with life, like I did, when I read it above. Thanks for that.

        And re: marketing, FUCK and YOU.

        We don't dream up dancing bananas. There is no WE in marketing. What we're supposed to do is help people with a clear, memorable and motivating sales or brand message, which can mean just about anything. The banana means just about nothing, if even that. Which is not something I do in marketing.
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