New Philosophy Lead

[Carleas]

Please welcome Only_Humean as the Philosophy forum moderator. Welcome, OH!

And thank you, Faust, for all you've done in your various moderating roles.

[Liteninbolt]

Welcome and hello O-H to the ILP staff!

[Tab]

Congrats - OH is a pretty good choice. Oh noes, faint praise.

"May it come easily" OH, as we say over here.

[Magsj]

Cool man, nice Welcome

[anon]

Only_Humean is a great choice! What happened to Faust though?

[Liteninbolt]

Faust will be around, but in a less operative capacity for awhle. New responsibilities have him tethered at the moment.

[TheStumps]

What happened to Faust though?

[Liteninbolt]

What happened to Faust though?

I wanted to do something similar to this, but since anon asked the question, I wanted to give him the skinny about Faust.

[PavlovianModel146]

I'm glad to have you modding with us, Only_Humean!

[Silhouette]

An infinitely more respectable replacement

He was at one time the member of this forum who I approved of most.

[Carleas]

He was at one time the member of this forum who I approved of most.

Did his standing go down before or after he became a mod?

[tentative]

He was at one time the member of this forum who I approved of most.

Did his standing go down before or after he became a mod?

What kind of question is that? The answer is obvious: AFTER. Being staff on any site is wearing a target for all the I want freedom without responsibility crappola. Let no good deed go unpunished?

[Silhouette]

What kind of question is that? The answer is obvious: AFTER. Being staff on any site is wearing a target for all the I want freedom without responsibility crappola. Let no good deed go unpunished?

Loooool, yes yes, victim victim.

The actual answer is neither. The guy is still just as good as ever at giving short sharp witty responses that are actually very relevant and heuristic.

The only reason I phrased it like I did was because I remember making a judgment a while back + I haven't decided if anything has changed since then: hence only referring to a time when I had made a decision.

Faust was too subservient to his job description to do a good job. I have a lot more faith in O_H's intelligence and discretion in the many moderation matters that require it. He might even have the potential to surpass Pav, who's a great mod. It is definitely possible to be a brilliant member of staff because I have seen it - anyone who thinks otherwise has probably tried themselves and been found wanting.

[Faust]

Just be aware that I am still enough of a mod to be unfair to you at every turn, Sillie. I dream about it. Even when i am awake.

[sangrain]

So, no more free beer?

Does this grant you freedom to run wild once again, Faust? Is it open season? Can't wait.

Oh, hey Humean.

[Silhouette]

Just be aware that I am still enough of a mod to be unfair to you at every turn, Sillie. I dream about it. Even when i am awake.

Not really. Your style is more unfair to yourself. I can use all your rules to get away with a lot because I know you will always stick to them - puts me in a somewhat more powerful position when you voluntarily reduce yourself.

One is less inclined to try and get away with more if one's authority figure is worthy of respect. You won't see me arguing with O_H on his moderation style. I don't mean to simply degrade you as an end in itself - I wish for you to learn, but you consistently refuse to do so. Everyone's loss.

[sangrain]

Just be aware that I am still enough of a mod to be unfair to you at every turn, Sillie. I dream about it. Even when i am awake.

Not really. Your style is more unfair to yourself. I can use all your rules to get away with a lot because I know you will always stick to them - puts me in a somewhat more powerful position when you voluntarily reduce yourself.

One is less inclined to try and get away with more if one's authority figure is worthy of respect. You won't see me arguing with O_H on his moderation style. I don't mean to simply degrade you as an end in itself - I wish for you to learn, but you consistently refuse to do so. Everyone's loss.

I found this post deeply amusing. The last sentence killed me (assuming you were not being sarcastic).

I guess you had to be there.

[Faust]

I had a chuckle, myself, sandy.

Alas, I don't have any freedom, given my slavish devotion to the letter of the law, and my unwillingness to make my posting here an exercise in novel uses of what are evidently early secretions of testosterone.

Glad to know I can help you with your crazy, rebellious side, Sille. And sorry to learn that I am doomed to be punished by the very crimes against intellectual freedom that I myself commit.

[tentative]

Why is it that as soon as the phrase "will to power" appears, the dick waving begins? That phrase has created more headaches for mods... just three fucking words. No one has to respond, you're fucked no matter what you say, but ain't it curious?

[Liteninbolt]

It would be better and simpler to just enjoy the benefits of ILP. The mod's intent isn't to disenfranchise one sector of thinking. Hopefully friendly reminders of house rules (which should have been agreed to upon becoming a member here) would be sufficient for harmony here. Not everyone's philosophy is the same, yet we should respect an individual's right to express it. Still, there are those who push and push...

[Silhouette]

Why is it that as soon as the phrase "will to power" appears, the dick waving begins?

I suppose I ought to point out that no one has used this phrase yet except you. So please do kindly put your dick away.

I mention power because Faust was using the guise of joviality to cover up the fact that he was actually flaunting his: you can exaggerate a point until it seems clearly unbelievable and silly, but the point is still there. Except his point isn't really valid, because he seems to be more restricted by the rules than anyone who knows what they are and how to get around them. This makes him a poor moderator because he cannot do his job except within rules. Rules are highly flawed and no matter how many more you add, you'll never fill the gaps like discretion can - so the job he does do is always a poor one. Discretion is enough even for minimal rules - you just need to have a talent for it.

As much as I love light heartedness, I don't really see how this issue is funny. Rigidity is exactly what you need to halt light heartedness, no matter how you try to cover it up with attempted light heartedness - you just come across as someone who you feel obliged to chuckle at out of politeness, but who you'd rather avoid if possible. Now he's been demoted, the forum suddenly seems a lot brighter.

[tentative]

Why is it that as soon as the phrase "will to power" appears, the dick waving begins?

I suppose I ought to point out that no one has used this phrase yet except you. So please do kindly put your dick away.

I mention power because Faust was using the guise of joviality to cover up the fact that he was actually flaunting his: you can exaggerate a point until it seems clearly unbelievable and silly, but the point is still there. Except his point isn't really valid, because he seems to be more restricted by the rules than anyone who knows what they are and how to get around them. This makes him a poor moderator because he cannot do his job except within rules. Rules are highly flawed and no matter how many more you add, you'll never fill the gaps like discretion can - so the job he does do is always a poor one. Discretion is enough even for minimal rules - you just need to have a talent for it.


As much as I love light heartedness, I don't really see how this issue is funny. Rigidity is exactly what you need to halt light heartedness, no matter how you try to cover it up with attempted light heartedness - you just come across as someone who you feel obliged to chuckle at out of politeness, but who you'd rather avoid if possible. Now he's been demoted, the forum suddenly seems a lot brighter.

I have no idea how much experience you have as a moderator, but I assure you, haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about. Given the purile crap in this forum, Faust could have moved over half of it to mundane or rant. You, YOU aren't aware of the back channel PM's it took to keep the "dick wavers" from going too stupid. In a website that governs in restraint to the maximum, all the mods including Faust do what they do in the style that best suits them. You don't like it? Tough shit. You're damned lucky you didn't see strict moderation.

[Silhouette]

You're damned lucky you didn't see strict moderation.

Lol. On what grounds? Clearly I'm not here to cause trouble, wave my dick, or de-rail. I actually take philosophy seriously and contribute much to this forum - there has never been anything within the rules to incriminate me, and I have received much positive recognition for what doesn't incriminate me.

I will use available opportunities to give myself a voice because there is always a huge amount of sense in what I have to say. I have no doubt that a lot of work and PM traffic goes into maintaining this forum, and a lot of the decisions I agree with - and I say so too, I do not just give negative criticism.

The fact is that moderation measures would be significantly more successful with someone like O_H taking the place of Faust. The theory (which clearly holds in practice) is simple: the use of discretion is quite apparent in O_H and quite devoid within Faust - and relying on rules to deal with everything can only resolve specific things at a time. Anything new or unconsidered slips through and calls for more rules... UNLESS you use discretion to rehumanise the experience and more effectively deal with life as fluid rather than a series of static instances (which discrete rules imitate). To face and deal with life, you need someone with enough intelligence to actually be able to take on life. You don't like life because you can't deal with it without hiding behind rules? To quote you and your abuse of your precious forum rules, "Tough shit." Moderation please!

[tentative]

You're damned lucky you didn't see strict moderation.

Lol. On what grounds? Clearly I'm not here to cause trouble, wave my dick, or de-rail. I actually take philosophy seriously and contribute much to this forum - there has never been anything within the rules to incriminate me, and I have received much positive recognition for what doesn't incriminate me.

I will use available opportunities to give myself a voice because there is always a huge amount of sense in what I have to say. I have no doubt that a lot of work and PM traffic goes into maintaining this forum, and a lot of the decisions I agree with - and I say so too, I do not just give negative criticism.

The fact is that moderation measures would be significantly more successful with someone like O_H taking the place of Faust. The theory (which clearly holds in practice) is simple: the use of discretion is quite apparent in O_H and quite devoid within Faust - and relying on rules to deal with everything can only resolve specific things at a time. Anything new or unconsidered slips through and calls for more rules... UNLESS you use discretion to rehumanise the experience and more effectively deal with life as fluid rather than a series of static instances (which discrete rules imitate). To face and deal with life, you need someone with enough intelligence to actually be able to take on life. You don't like life because you can't deal with it without hiding behind rules? To quote you and your abuse of your precious forum rules, "Tough shit." Moderation please!

I see! So for you, it's all style and vague references to discretion as only you can see it. And of course, you're the last-word expert on "rehumanise" - whatever the hell that means.

To face and deal with life, you need someone with enough intelligence to actually be able to take on life.

Oh my, you are soooo profound! I'm not sure why you decided to troll this thread with a judge and jury approach, but you come off as arrogant given your lack of anything but opinion.

Oh, welcome to the thankless new job, O.H. Having any regrets yet?

[Faust]

You know, Sillie, I think it was I who first suggested O_H as my replacement. I think someone owes someone a great big "Thank you!".......

Come on......ya big lug.....smoochie-smoochie.......