Proof of reincarnation.

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Re: Proof of reincarnation.

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:13 pm

I like that first link. I know the feeling.
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Re: Proof of reincarnation.

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:49 pm

Jakob,


I'd say, we suffer ourselves, and pleasure is a segment of this self-suffering, the segment we suffer voluntarily. I think the "key" to life is to know how to enjoy the greater part of the self-suffering.


You almost seem to be speaking of masochism here unless you do not actually mean that suffering is pleasurable though to a masochist it can be. They can derive pleasure and satisfaction from their suffering.

We are capable of suffering at times and of feeling pleasure/enjoyment/joy at times.
Perhaps they are like the aspects of a diamond ~ separate but belonging to the same self.
We know the one because we are intimate with the other.


Do we actually feel pleasure, if that is the experience or emotion, when we are suffering even though we realize that it is for a good cause? Or might it have, could we give it, a different name, a less masochistic or hedonistic name?
“How can a bird that is born for joy
Sit in a cage and sing?”
― William Blake


“Little Fly
Thy summers play,
My thoughtless hand
Has brush'd away.

Am not I
A fly like thee?
Or art not thou
A man like me?

For I dance
And drink & sing:
Till some blind hand
Shall brush my wing.

If thought is life
And strength & breath:
And the want
Of thought is death;

Then am I
A happy fly,
If I live,
Or if I die”
― William Blake, Songs of Innocence and of Experience


“No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings.”
― William Blake
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Re: Proof of reincarnation.

Postby beautifuljose » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:46 pm

I believe that nothing good comes easy
our life is a struggle, and if we do enough of efforts it might end up with something good
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