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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby mr reasonable » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:26 am

gib wrote:
Smears wrote:If I'm a single dude and a girl comes to my house to get some weed, then has sex with me, then turns around and sets it up as a regular thing, that probably just means her husband isn't giving her enough attention. I'd blame him.


Sure, blame the guy. A girl cheats on her husband, and it's his fault. Obvious!



Thank you. I'm glad someone can be reasonable here.
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby FilmSnob » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:35 am

Smears wrote:
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Smears wrote:If I'm a single dude and a girl comes to my house to get some weed, then has sex with me, then turns around and sets it up as a regular thing, that probably just means her husband isn't giving her enough attention. I'd blame him.


Sure, blame the guy. A girl cheats on her husband, and it's his fault. Obvious!



Thank you. I'm glad someone can be reasonable here.


Maybe the girl feels awkward having sex with the dog in the room. If only the guy could overcome his abandonment issues...
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby mr reasonable » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:27 am

I don't have a dog, or pets of any kind. My sinuses wouldn't have it.
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby PavlovianModel146 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:59 pm

I still maintain that if she were not cheating on her husband with Smears, then she would be cheating on her husband with someone else. I would say that people from either gender are either disposed to cheating on their spouses, or they are not. It's really just a question of when with respect to people so disposed, for Smears to decline would be for him to merely put off the inevitable.

She's probably running around on her husband with more people than just Smears, anyway.
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby Stoic Guardian » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:56 pm

PavlovianModel146 wrote:She's probably running around on her husband with more people than just Smears, anyway.


... :) Better wrap it up Smears or you'll catch somethin.
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby joekoba » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:20 pm

PavlovianModel146 wrote:Don't blame him, blame the married woman. He's not doing anything wrong. If it wasn't him, it'd be someone else.

Couldn't have said it better. IF there was anyone to blame itd be more on the woman, however i think in all reality there is no blame. Humans are not monogamous creatures, so the whole idea of monogamy in a marriage is a joke.
So what is a marriage besides a written contract that binds two people in the government's eyes? Sex outside of marriage is the norm, as is sex inside of marriage, sex with or without contracts will continue. What's the big deal?
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby Stoic Guardian » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:08 pm

As I said before Humans can be either, there is no absolute.

To Say no human is monogomous is just as ignorant as saying all humans are monogomous.
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby joekoba » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:19 pm

Stoic Guardian wrote:As I said before Humans can be either, there is no absolute.

To Say no human is monogomous is just as ignorant as saying all humans are monogomous.



Humans are not monogamous by nature they are polygynous.
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby Stoic Guardian » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:22 pm

joekoba wrote:
Stoic Guardian wrote:As I said before Humans can be either, there is no absolute.

To Say no human is monogomous is just as ignorant as saying all humans are monogomous.



Humans are not monogamous by nature they are polygynous.


Are you making a claim that humans cannot be monogomous, that would make it quite odd that monogamy is basically the standard for romantic involvement the world over.
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby joekoba » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:25 pm

Stoic Guardian wrote:
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Stoic Guardian wrote:As I said before Humans can be either, there is no absolute.

To Say no human is monogomous is just as ignorant as saying all humans are monogomous.



Humans are not monogamous by nature they are polygynous.


Are you making a claim that humans cannot be monogomous, that would make it quite odd that monogamy is basically the standard for romatic involvement the world over.


Socially yes we claim to be "monogamous", in reality we are hardwired to have sex with more than one partner and cheat in order to fulfill this hardwired need.
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby Stoic Guardian » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:31 pm

That makes little sense especially when stacked against what I had said earlier.

I've researched into that stuff as well and what I read is that in comparison with other animals (both those that are monogomous and those that aren't) humans are neither fully monogomous nor are they incapable of being monogomous.

In other words they can be either.
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby joekoba » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:35 pm

Stoic Guardian wrote:That makes little sense especially when stacked against what I had said earlier.

I've researched into that stuff as well and what I read is that in comparison with other animals (both those that are monogomous and those that aren't) humans are neither fully monogomous nor are they incapable of being monogomous.

In other words they can be either.


Well ive taken a psych lab in animal behavior and have learned quite a bit about other animals and ourselves in regard to mating habits. I wouldn't say humans are incapable of monogamy, but instead that it is against human nature to be one.
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby joekoba » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:38 pm

Smears wrote:I try to ust stick w/ a few choice people, unless the opportunity to fuck someone else presents itself, in which case, I would probably do it as long as they're not fat or ugly.


Now that's a good philosophy to live by :D
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby joekoba » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:42 pm

Romantic involvement I like to add, is a coin phrase to mean fucking or trying to get fucking, or post-fucking to continue to fuck at a later time.
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby Stoic Guardian » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:48 pm

That's sad if that's what you think.
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby joekoba » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:50 pm

Stoic Guardian wrote:That's sad if that's what you think.

I know it seems as if its sad, ive been told that what i think is sad by others too, but its just what is without any bullshit if you're honest, its easier to accept things as they are, I've found.
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby Stoic Guardian » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:54 pm

As if it were set in stone :roll:
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby joekoba » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:58 pm

Stoic Guardian wrote:As if it were set in stone :roll:


Think about it. What is romantic involvement for ultimately? And is monogamy required for a fulfilled sex life?
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby Stoic Guardian » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:01 pm

It's not just sex that's a load of nonsense it is far deeper and more intimate than simply having sex. Or the desire to.
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby joekoba » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:03 pm

Stoic Guardian wrote:It's not just sex that's a load of nonsense it is far deeper and more intimate than simply having sex. Or the desire to.


Deeper how?
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby Stoic Guardian » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:07 pm

How? It's hard to describe more like a feeling, intimacy but with a genuine affection and care as well. Feeling good being with the one you love simply because they are there. Like an embrace.
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby joekoba » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:10 pm

Stoic Guardian wrote:How? It's hard to describe more like a feeling, intimacy but with a genuine affection and care as well. Feeling good being with the one you love simply because they are there. Like an embrace.


No offense, but this sounds like a girls description of what they wanna feel, in love. You can get all that from a friend though, no?
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby Stoic Guardian » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:13 pm

In part, true romance incorporates friendship as well. Shit maybe "the girl" is right ever thought about that?
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby joekoba » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:14 pm

Stoic Guardian wrote:In part, true romance incorporates friendship as well. Shit maybe "the girl" is right ever thought about that?

The girl is rarely right about much, but besides that commentary, what do you mean by "right"? I just think we're different in the way of thinking about it in general of course. In general guys wanna fuck, and girls want a guy who will stick around after and so they associate these girl feelings with girl wants like all that you mentioned prior. Most guys just wanna fuck and get out whether they admit to it or not
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Re: Sex outside of marriage?

Postby FilmSnob » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:16 pm

Stoic, I think you should defend against the distinction being made here between friendly (caring) feelings and romantic (sexual) ones.
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