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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Ierrellus » Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:07 pm

turtle wrote:us dummies----I am appalled by the amount of ignorance on these forums...

Define ignorance.
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:14 pm

Ierrellus wrote:
turtle wrote:us dummies----I am appalled by the amount of ignorance on these forums...

Define ignorance.

not knowing....not understanding...it is found in those that think they know everything...
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Ierrellus » Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:29 pm

turtle wrote:
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turtle wrote:us dummies----I am appalled by the amount of ignorance on these forums...

Define ignorance.

not knowing....not understanding...it is found in those that think they know everything...

I've seen some excellent posts in these fora. How can you lump them all as ignorant? While I agree there are some threads here that would not make it in remedial English essay assignments, they are not in the majority.
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:09 pm

ierrellus said
I've seen some excellent posts in these fora. How can you lump them all as ignorant? While I agree there are some threads here that would not make it in remedial English essay assignments, they are not in the majority.[/quote]

I never said what was ignorant.....I never said how much ignorance....the lack of basic knowledge is apparent..
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Ierrellus » Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:51 pm

turtle wrote:ierrellus said
I've seen some excellent posts in these fora. How can you lump them all as ignorant? While I agree there are some threads here that would not make it in remedial English essay assignments, they are not in the majority.


I never said what was ignorant.....I never said how much ignorance....the lack of basic knowledge is apparent..[/quote]
Examples?
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:21 pm

Ierrellus wrote:
turtle wrote:ierrellus said
I've seen some excellent posts in these fora. How can you lump them all as ignorant? While I agree there are some threads here that would not make it in remedial English essay assignments, they are not in the majority.


I never said what was ignorant.....I never said how much ignorance....the lack of basic knowledge is apparent..

Examples?[/quote]


I wont go there...when I find that I have posted something that is ignorant.... I will point that out to you...
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Ierrellus » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:54 pm

turtle wrote:
Ierrellus wrote:
turtle wrote:ierrellus said
I've seen some excellent posts in these fora. How can you lump them all as ignorant? While I agree there are some threads here that would not make it in remedial English essay assignments, they are not in the majority.


I never said what was ignorant.....I never said how much ignorance....the lack of basic knowledge is apparent..

Examples?



I wont go there...when I find that I have posted something that is ignorant.... I will point that out to you...[/quote]
If lack of basic knowledge, whatever that is, is apparent here, you should be able to cite examples. Otherwise, we have only your opinion.
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Thu Feb 20, 2014 4:05 pm

you are correct...right now you just have my opinion..
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:24 pm

turtle wrote:us dummies want to know what sex is.....
we are confused.....we need a definition but it cant be google stuff....we need to know the spiritual side of this blessed act.....maybe we are missing out....


There is really NO spiritual side to sex, I don't think. :lol: Our brains invent it when we are deeply in love with the person with whom we are sharing the act and giving our bodies, our minds, our hearts, the energy of our lust, our everything, lol to.
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:33 pm

Arcturus Descending wrote:
turtle wrote:us dummies want to know what sex is.....
we are confused.....we need a definition but it cant be google stuff....we need to know the spiritual side of this blessed act.....maybe we are missing out....


There is really NO spiritual side to sex, I don't think. :lol: Our brains invent it when we are deeply in love with the person with whom we are sharing the act and giving our bodies, our minds, our hearts, the energy of our lust, our everything, lol to.
#-o


isn't anything spiritual coming out of our brains...how can you say NO spiritual side to sex....where are you coming from arc...
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:41 pm

turtle wrote:
Ierrellus wrote:
turtle wrote:how can we know anything about any god.....we are just a human chimp

Our aspirations are a type of knowing. Otherwise, what are they for?


there is a possibility that we don't know about these aspirations....maybe they have to do with the survival instinct..



If we don't know about our aspirations, turtle, how could they be aspirations? I suppose one might say that they are undiscovered landscape as of yet until they rise up in us and become known. We have so much undiscovered territory within us.
Of course, if we "aspire" to breath, that would have to do with the survival instinct. :lol:
Other conscious aspirations, like desiring to write a book or compose music or travel the word, have children, or transcend our fear of death, are not so much about the survival instinct per se I don't think but about the human spiritual growth process, becoming who we sense we are or are to become, one might say, and/or about enhancing our lives, though of course in a roundabout way, if we do nothing to enhance our lives, or to even try to discover what it is that would serve that purpose, and even the pursuit of that discovery would enhance our lives, then........our survival instinct may suffer.
"Look closely. The beautiful may be small."


"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."


“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”

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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:48 pm

turtle wrote:
Arcturus Descending wrote:
turtle wrote:us dummies want to know what sex is.....
we are confused.....we need a definition but it cant be google stuff....we need to know the spiritual side of this blessed act.....maybe we are missing out....


There is really NO spiritual side to sex, I don't think. :lol: Our brains invent it when we are deeply in love with the person with whom we are sharing the act and giving our bodies, our minds, our hearts, the energy of our lust, our everything, lol to.
#-o


isn't anything spiritual coming out of our brains...how can you say NO spiritual side to sex....where are you coming from arc...


That's what I said, turtle. The spiritual stuff DOES come from our brains, in cooperation with and in harmony with our bodies and everything which both parties experience. It's a wonderful cocktail which the human brain mixes and pours and which we then DRINK UP.

I recall somewhere today where you called us human chimps. lol. We are of course but would you say that when two chimps do the mighty deed, they feel the spiritual side of it?
"Look closely. The beautiful may be small."


"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."


“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”

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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:45 pm

I recall somewhere today where you called us human chimps. lol. We are of course but would you say that when two chimps do the mighty deed, they feel the spiritual side of it?[/quote]

we don't know this
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:01 pm

But would you hazard a guess, turtle? :lol:
"Look closely. The beautiful may be small."


"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."


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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:31 pm

Arcturus Descending wrote:But would you hazard a guess, turtle? :lol:


no way...I am one of the dummies...
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:37 pm

us dummies---have you noticed that scripture meaning is still be active....the meaningless scripture thread is dead...
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:16 pm

If lack of basic knowledge, whatever that is, is apparent here, you should be able to cite examples. Otherwise, we have only your opinion.


Ignorance is not knowing something, never having learned it. Has nothing to do with native intelligence.
I am ignorant of much knowledge that is written and thought of in here. But the other kind of ignorance to me can be more seen as "stupidity" - that is, having learned something and still not knowing it or "knowing better" or "having been taught better" yet still following one's own negative, narcissistic selfish way. lol.
"Look closely. The beautiful may be small."


"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."


“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”

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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Stuart » Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:32 am

turtle wrote:us dummies---have you noticed that scripture meaning is still be active....the meaningless scripture thread is dead...

I hadn't noticed that.
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:44 pm

Stuart wrote:
turtle wrote:us dummies---have you noticed that scripture meaning is still be active....the meaningless scripture thread is dead...

I hadn't noticed that.


i don't see either one now...i am a dummy
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:37 pm

us dummies-----please see the latest on TRUTH by ierrellus...very good stuff
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:14 pm

turtle wrote:
Arcturus Descending wrote:But would you hazard a guess, turtle? :lol:


no way...I am one of the dummies...

Okay, perhaps "guess" was not the correct word to use. You could give us your thoughts on the matter- it might make you less of a dummy... :P your word, not mine.
What IS A dummy - something not real.
"Look closely. The beautiful may be small."


"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."


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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:35 pm

Arcturus Descending wrote:
turtle wrote:
Arcturus Descending wrote:But would you hazard a guess, turtle? :lol:


no way...I am one of the dummies...

Okay, perhaps "guess" was not the correct word to use. You could give us your thoughts on the matter- it might make you less of a dummy... :P your word, not mine.
What IS A dummy - something not real.


actually arc I believe we are all dummies...I say that affectionately...we are in a sinking ship...but there is much good left
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Ierrellus » Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:43 pm

All the way from sex to charity
God is shared love in any form.
Check out J. B. Phillips' "Your God Is Too Small" in which a minister thanks God for good sex with his wife.
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:53 pm

Ierrellus wrote:All the way from sex to charity
God is shared love in any form.
Check out J. B. Phillips' "Your God Is Too Small" in which a minister thanks God for good sex with his wife.

And what is gods respond to the minister's gratitude?
"Look closely. The beautiful may be small."


"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."


“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”

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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:11 pm

Arcturus Descending wrote:
Ierrellus wrote:All the way from sex to charity
God is shared love in any form.
Check out J. B. Phillips' "Your God Is Too Small" in which a minister thanks God for good sex with his wife.

And what is gods respond to the minister's gratitude?


what the dummies need to work on---------why all the awful part of the world...how does god fit in there...I haven't heard a good answer..
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