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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby WW_III_ANGRY » Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:48 pm

arcturus rising wrote:
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turtle wrote:you could join us dummies...actually we are the wise, experienced, intelligent ones who are undercover...


Its ok nobody will ever "get me" anyways. I'm sure I don't need anymore "cover" aside from this mysterious shroud around me that blinds them to my inner being, (as such is the case for everyone). Yes?

It must be very lonely in there at times, no?
Such is NOT the case for everyone - only those who choose to hide that inner being.
We are not meant to show all of our inner being and everyone our inner being - nor are we meant to show none of it to no one.
I personally feel that it cries out to be discovered - but as it is to be valued, not to be shown or discovered to all/by all.


Oh I could never do that. Thar be monsters down there. Lonely - yup. You got it.
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:11 pm

the dummies agree with ANGRY---there are monsters that will destroy your life and you know it ARC..

another dummy thing------i have severe problems with depression and see a psychoanalyst frequently....
if i say the judeo-christian god doesnt eist in my mind does that mean im crazy/depressed/melancholic/demented/schizophrenic with a personality disorder...
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:43 pm

WW_III_ANGRY wrote:

Oh I could never do that. Thar be monsters down there. Lonely - yup. You got it.

Can you shed a little light on what exactly you could never do. Would you reveal nothing of yourself or would you be discriminating?
The monsters will not leave us until we bring them into the light.
If you don't see the hidden River,
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:54 pm

turtle wrote:the dummies agree with ANGRY---there are monsters that will destroy your life and you know it ARC..

another dummy thing------i have severe problems with depression and see a psychoanalyst frequently....
if i say the judeo-christian god doesnt eist in my mind does that mean im crazy/depressed/melancholic/demented/schizophrenic with a personality disorder...

No, little reptile, it means no such thing. All it means I think is that you've reserved your mind for other things. You perceive things differently.
At the same time, if the Judeo-Christian god does exist in the mind of others, it also doesn't make them all of those things which you mentioned above. I think that if our beliefs serve us and others in a 'real' (and that is important) and good way, those beliefs can be looked at as healthy and acceptable. After all, who are we to judge? And of course, that then begs the question - what is real? :lol:
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby WW_III_ANGRY » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:07 pm

arcturus rising wrote:
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Oh I could never do that. Thar be monsters down there. Lonely - yup. You got it.

Can you shed a little light on what exactly you could never do. Would you reveal nothing of yourself or would you be discriminating?
The monsters will not leave us until we bring them into the light.


I could never reveal everything about myself. The monsters are part of me, they couldn't leave.
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:11 pm

WW_III_ANGRY wrote:
arcturus rising wrote:
WW_III_ANGRY wrote:

Oh I could never do that. Thar be monsters down there. Lonely - yup. You got it.

Can you shed a little light on what exactly you could never do. Would you reveal nothing of yourself or would you be discriminating?
The monsters will not leave us until we bring them into the light.


I could never reveal everything about myself. The monsters are part of me, they couldn't leave.



maybe those monsters inside of you are monsters that are inside arc and the other dummies...
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:19 pm

WW_III_ANGRY wrote:

I could never reveal everything about myself. The monsters are part of me, they couldn't leave.

Okay, so then, what do you do in order to live in harmony with your monsters?
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby WW_III_ANGRY » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:30 pm

arcturus rising wrote:
WW_III_ANGRY wrote:

I could never reveal everything about myself. The monsters are part of me, they couldn't leave.

Okay, so then, what do you do in order to live in harmony with your monsters?



Thats a good question. I guess I would say, acceptance of yourself and through understanding yourself.
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:36 pm

WW_III_ANGRY

Well, I did mention in 'harmony with your monsters'. But when do we know when it's time to send a particular monster 'packing" - so to speak?
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:43 pm

turtle,

maybe those monsters inside of you are monsters that are inside arc and the other dummies...

Well, being that we all share the same humanity - though not all of the same experiences, we can more or less figure that we share many of the same monsters. But really, perhaps it's actually just 'one' monster - with different kinds of tentacles which grab hold of us, choke us and at times leave us gasping for breath. But it is up to us to take that sword (metaphor) and as many times as is necessary, to bear down with it and cut that tentacle off, and as many times as it grows back, cut it again and again. I wonder what the name of that 'one' monster might be?
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby WW_III_ANGRY » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:53 pm

arcturus rising wrote:WW_III_ANGRY

Well, I did mention in 'harmony with your monsters'. But when do we know when it's time to send a particular monster 'packing" - so to speak?


Depends on the situation :)
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:02 pm

WW_III_ANGRY wrote:
arcturus rising wrote:WW_III_ANGRY

Well, I did mention in 'harmony with your monsters'. But when do we know when it's time to send a particular monster 'packing" - so to speak?


Depends on the situation :)

and how is that situation to be judged?
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby WW_III_ANGRY » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:03 pm

arcturus rising wrote:
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arcturus rising wrote:WW_III_ANGRY

Well, I did mention in 'harmony with your monsters'. But when do we know when it's time to send a particular monster 'packing" - so to speak?


Depends on the situation :)

and how is that situation to be judged?


Your values + intelligence :)
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:02 pm

attention dummies-----i would like to mention some of the profound posts for this week......

1.
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:17 pm

attention dummies-------

calrid is back...things should pick up now...

where is arc?
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Calrid » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:24 pm

turtle wrote:attention dummies-------

calrid is back...things should pick up now...

where is arc?


You give me far too much credit.

to answer your OP:

1. How did matter and energy come about?? please define the words how, did, matter,and, energy, come, about.

1) eternity is probably the only rational idea that I as a human can encompass, or rather can't but you get the point. If something just always was and always will be then you don't have to worry about first cause arguments.

2. How did life originate???

2) Life originated because God stretched forth his hand upon the void and well you know the rest.

3. What the fuck is it all about?????

3) People are not wearing enough hats.
“I think we can all look forward to the time when these three theories are given equal time in our science classrooms across the country, and eventually the world; One third time for Intelligent Design, one third time for Flying Spaghetti Monsterism, and one third time for logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence.”

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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:39 pm

Calrid wrote:
turtle wrote:attention dummies-------

calrid is back...things should pick up now...

where is arc?


You give me far too much credit.

to answer your OP:

1. How did matter and energy come about?? please define the words how, did, matter,and, energy, come, about.

1) eternity is probably the only rational idea that I as a human can encompass, or rather can't but you get the point. If something just always was and always will be then you don't have to worry about first cause arguments.

2. How did life originate???

2) Life originated because God stretched forth his hand upon the void and well you know the rest.

3. What the fuck is it all about?????

3) People are not wearing enough hats.



how are you defining hats...do you mean tits?
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Calrid » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:47 pm

turtle wrote:
Calrid wrote:
turtle wrote:attention dummies-------

calrid is back...things should pick up now...

where is arc?


You give me far too much credit.

to answer your OP:

1. How did matter and energy come about?? please define the words how, did, matter,and, energy, come, about.

1) eternity is probably the only rational idea that I as a human can encompass, or rather can't but you get the point. If something just always was and always will be then you don't have to worry about first cause arguments.

2. How did life originate???

2) Life originated because God stretched forth his hand upon the void and well you know the rest.

3. What the fuck is it all about?????

3) People are not wearing enough hats.



how are you defining hats...do you mean tits?


I think with this metaphysical treatise the definition a pro po hats at least peri persu will all become clear..?

“I think we can all look forward to the time when these three theories are given equal time in our science classrooms across the country, and eventually the world; One third time for Intelligent Design, one third time for Flying Spaghetti Monsterism, and one third time for logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence.”

Oscar Wilde - probably.
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Arcturus Descending » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:10 pm

turtle wrote:attention dummies-----i would like to mention some of the profound posts for this week......

1.

:lol: Too much laying out in the sun, little reptile, or perhaps not enough! :wink:
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Arcturus Descending » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:44 pm

WW_III_ANGRY

Your values + intelligence :)

But what do you do if something holds you back from utilizing these tools?
If you don't see the hidden River,
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If the heavens receive no rest
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:32 pm

arcturus rising wrote:WW_III_ANGRY

Your values + intelligence :)

But what do you do if something holds you back from utilizing these tools?



there you go arc...what is holding you back...
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby turtle » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:34 pm

you dummies are all sick...........
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby MagsJ » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:46 pm

turtle wrote:you dummies are all sick...........
You mean Sic right? :wink:
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:04 pm

turtle wrote:you dummies are all sick...........

[-X :evilfun:
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies

Postby WW_III_ANGRY » Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:09 pm

arcturus rising wrote:WW_III_ANGRY

Your values + intelligence :)

But what do you do if something holds you back from utilizing these tools?


Then you fail
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