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Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby brevel_monkey » Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:04 am

I've never gotten into WOW, or any other mass multiplayer games. But now, my area has finally got high speed internet connections and suddenly its all possible. I could join WOW.

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I love role play games. I played dungeons and dragons as a kid. I love fantasy.

I need a fun computer game to play. I've played star craft 2 to death
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Judging by the amount of people round here who spend 24/7 playing WOW, I have a feeling it might be about as addictive and dangerous as smack (but less fun?)

If I get addicted to WOW, my boyfriend will be VERY unhappy about it.
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby fuse » Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:13 am

Never played WOW. It seems pretty consuming and isolating unless your friends play it, too. Other than that, I can't really recommend for or against it.

Have you played Civilization 4 or Civ 5? They are pretty fun. And have you already played the Final Fantasy classics? I recently played them for the first time and they're pretty awesome - especially IV, V, and VI.
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby brevel_monkey » Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:20 am

Never got on with Civ games. Played 4 and got annoyed when, after umpteen hours of gameplay, knights on horseback with a lance took down my Apache helicopter (yes - the apache was low on health, and there were several knights - but come on: one Apach evidently isn't threatened by even 1,000,000 knights on horseback). But the game was too slow for me anyway - that was just the straw that broke the camel.

Final fantasy: played. Also played fable quite a bit recently. Currently 'acquiring' the latest total war game, but hear its pretty average anyway.
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby fuse » Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:29 am

The only game I'm playing right now is Black Ops. I've always liked fps games and the skills required to be good -- and plus, although I can play it endlessly, the multilayer is easy to pick up and put down. I like the challenge of playing against people who legitimately pwns my ass and trying to learn and get better. The trash talk is also amusing, and sometimes you come across the players who are both good and respectful.
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby Gobbo » Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:04 am

The development going to WoW now from Blizz is laughable. I would wait for Diablo 3.
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby Calrid » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:46 am

LOTRO is good and the community is much more social than WoW. If you liked the movies or are a Tolkien fan it would be a no brainer and it is also free to play, so you can try before you commit to a subscription, or just play f2p forever.

I can recommend it as the graphics, attention to detail and plot are very authentic and the interface is intuitive and easy to use, plus the traits and stats enable customisation, which only increases when you reach 45th level and can customise weapons and items with hundreds of variables and the ability to level and tier. It's also fricking ginormous and likely to double in size by the time it reaches Mordor. Moria is immense for example. Plus because it's a 12+ game there are more mature players in general, so there's less assholishness in general.
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby Trevor » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:12 pm

Although, I haven't played it, I know what would happen if I did. A complete black-hole of time. I wouldn't recommend it.
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby Sky » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:24 pm

My advice would be No, you will start talking about the global dark ages and the end of the world, dragons, shamans, guilds and hordes. A dorky virtual badass.

Never date a guy that plays WOW. NEVER! :)

I was hooked on youtube and gifs when I got my high speed, oh and looking at all my friends pictures on fb. I guess that is dorky too, might as well play the game.
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby Flannel Jesus » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:27 pm

brevel_monkey wrote:If I get addicted to WOW, my boyfriend will be VERY unhappy about it.

i didn't know you were gay
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby Flannel Jesus » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:33 pm

the optimal thing imo is to get addicted to something you also find useful/fulfilling, something which maybe involves learning new skills or things or...something. i've tried to do that (with some limited success). i got temporarily addicted to helping people with css/html problems when i was trying to learn web design stuff.

but if you must play video games idk if an MMO RPG is the best option. if i were you i'd get a wii and get addicted to one of those wii fit or wii sports games.
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby Sky » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:42 pm

I am addicted to Word association. (This month) Everytime my phone blinks with a new reply I can't help but respond. Then I think of words all day long.
And if it goes too long without a response I get the shakes. ;)
Last week I must have used the word 'bleak' 100 times. Never used it before in my life. Today my word is 'eclectic'
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby anon » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:49 pm

Sky wrote:I am addicted to Word association. (This month) Everytime my phone blinks with a new reply I can't help but respond. Then I think of words all day long.
And if it goes too long without a response I get the shakes. ;)
Last week I must have used the word 'bleak' 100 times. Never used it before in my life. Today my word is 'eclectic'
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Not enough people play haiku tag. It's like graduating from kindergarten and moving on to first grade. You could use the word "eclectic" in something like a sentence. :)
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby _________ » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:41 pm

To the OP:

NO! For the love of whatever you hold dear, do not play that game.
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby Stoic Guardian » Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:11 pm

You should wait for Guild Wars 2, or The Old Republic if your a star wars or Bioware fan.
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby Mr. Kebop » Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:48 pm

I haven't heard about Old Republic. I remember Galaxies being so badass, like so fucking perfect. The system got sort of abused, but it used to be so in depth and there was an underlying Player vs. Player system that actually affected towns and the overall flow of the game.. They pretty much changed everything completely and turned it into a cookie-cutter, WoW type game. That's what the shame of it is, all these damn video game companies are more concerned with putting out a product with mass appeal that they don't care about the art in it, they don't care about unique design anymore. Unless of course they predict this will make them more money. They have no vision though, no fucking balls.

That's the problem with games like WoW is that they have no fucking balls. They cater to idiots. They cater to people who are slobs and the game itself does not require a great amount of intellect to master.

On the other hand there are games like Eve Online, which take MMORPG to an entirely new level. Essentially opening up the cosmos, and giving you some start up money and a ship and letting you figure it all out on your own. The economy of the game is pretty much everything. You will eventually join a corporation or start your own, as this economy is capitalist. All of this created by players in the game, the heads of the "corporations" are real people. There are clans of course too, there are some which have the role of being assassins, some who choose to be pirates, and some who will act as police or protection. Really these are just three things I came up with that they do, but you know it could be anything. People take this shit really seriously. There is buying and selling and those make money through import and export of goods and raw materials as well. Mining plays a pretty big role. I suppose the only thing it's missing is Wall Street lo-fucking-l. Well no, what am I saying, that exist in some form, there are those who have capital and loan it to others with promise of a percentage return. Anything can happen really. The game itself has no laws, no moderation by external forces. It's a real fucking sandbox and I think it's amazing. It can be very daunting at first and games like that do require a large investment of time and intellect.

I think it would be nice if we could make a game that will appeal to people who just enjoy games at a moderate level but also don't like being treated like idiots. I want to have a vast amount of control over character statistics if that plays a large role in the game, I don't want the game to do most of the work for me. I want the game to have a world which includes the larger scale, space-craft, immense, other planets, other galaxies, all with the potential to be colonized. When you play Eve Online, this is sort of what they are going for but...let's just say we are not there yet with computer technology...
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby PavlovianModel146 » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:43 am

fuse wrote:Never played WOW. It seems pretty consuming and isolating unless your friends play it, too. Other than that, I can't really recommend for or against it.

Have you played Civilization 4 or Civ 5? They are pretty fun. And have you already played the Final Fantasy classics? I recently played them for the first time and they're pretty awesome - especially IV, V, and VI.


I'm on FF X-2 right now. Everyone's in bed when I get home, so I play maybe twenty minutes per night, unless I am on a quest that takes longer...most don't.

Why is everyone on it about Rikku, anyway? I'm not the type to shave the carrot to video games...at all...lol...but, if I had to pick a, "Most attractive," drawing, it would be Paine.
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

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PavlovianModel146 wrote:I'm on FF X-2 right now. Everyone's in bed when I get home, so I play maybe twenty minutes per night, unless I am on a quest that takes longer...most don't.

Why is everyone on it about Rikku, anyway? I'm not the type to shave the carrot to video games...at all...lol...but, if I had to pick a, "Most attractive," drawing, it would be Paine.

Because Rikku's the most accessible/popular...I mean, why else would she be the one to give a massage...in a video game...I'm still confused as to why they included that.
Anywho, VII was the best, hands down. Graphics are not exchangeable for quality of story. I mean, I only played a total of maybe 24 hours of X-2--left the rest to my friend so I could get back to Armored Core Silent Line, because someone had taken FF and turned it into the Powerpuff Girls with summons...oh wait, they're Aeons now...

Armored Core For Answer consumed a good portion of my life for a while...but damn, was I good at that game online.
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Postby PavlovianModel146 » Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:25 am

MathIsACircle wrote:Because Rikku's the most accessible/popular...I mean, why else would she be the one to give a massage...in a video game...I'm still confused as to why they included that.
Anywho, VII was the best, hands down. Graphics are not exchangeable for quality of story. I mean, I only played a total of maybe 24 hours of X-2--left the rest to my friend so I could get back to Armored Core Silent Line, because someone had taken FF and turned it into the Powerpuff Girls with summons...oh wait, they're Aeons now...

Armored Core For Answer consumed a good portion of my life for a while...but damn, was I good at that game online.


Massage? To LeBlanc? I thought that was Yuna?

I agree that VII was the best, but I don't have a problem with any of the others, except the really Cartoonish one. Was that VIII or IX? I really didn't care for the cartoonish one, or the other one that was either VIII or IX because the hero was whiney.
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby Stoic Guardian » Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:48 am

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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby Mr. Kebop » Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:52 am

Yeah, clearly FFVII was just...really perfect...everything just came together so nicely, they really spent a lot of time on that one, it was meant to be something incredible and it was.

FFVIII was the one with the whiny protagonist. Not my favorite. Still the cinematic sequences in this one were actually the most beautifully done out of any of the Final Fantasy games. FFIX was the "cartoony" one. I actually thought this one was great. For me it least, it carried a great deal of charm.

Hahaha so brooding (reminds me of some of the people here lmao), that's how the Japanese like to portray their heroes, either that way or the complete opposite, "nothing gets them down" sort of attitude.

But I like the Metal Gear Awesome series better...



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Postby Stoic Guardian » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:09 am

Yeah ive watched those alot recently.
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Postby PavlovianModel146 » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:13 am

Mr. Kebop wrote:Yeah, clearly FFVII was just...really perfect...everything just came together so nicely, they really spent a lot of time on that one, it was meant to be something incredible and it was.


I agree. They spent so much time on it, in fact, that many people actually got the impression that FF was finished. I styill find that game graphically amazing, to this day. Maybe I'm just looking at it in context and the graphics would actually suck now, but I don't care.

FFVIII was the one with the whiny protagonist. Not my favorite. Still the cinematic sequences in this one were actually the most beautifully done out of any of the Final Fantasy games. FFIX was the "cartoony" one. I actually thought this one was great. For me it least, it carried a great deal of charm.

Hahaha so brooding (reminds me of some of the people here lmao), that's how the Japanese like to portray their heroes, either that way or the complete opposite, "nothing gets them down" sort of attitude.


I don't recall the cinematic sequences of FFVIII, of all of the FF games I've played, it is the only one that I've ever completed only once. The cartoony one wasn't awful, I guess the only thing I didn't like about it was that it was cartoony.

I don't mind brooding heroes, I mind whiney heroes. Cloud was brooding, so were Locke and Terra, in a way. Celes was very depressed, but then again, she wasn't the main hero in that one. I did think it was interesting that she was the first character you controlled after the destruction of the world, I wonder why they decided to do that?
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby Mr. Kebop » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:19 am

I'm not sure if I remember what had and had not occurred at that point in the game you mentioned... where the world ended and you controlled Terra. I thought that was amazing though, it did spark emotion for sure. Just when I thought the game couldn't surprise me anymore. I think they did this...because Terra is so important and we are supposed to become closer with her through this experience, sympathize with her more, see how she manages in the survival situation.

I think FFVI probably was better then FFVII simply because of the grandiose manner in which they wove together everybody's stories, all of their destines, to make such a beautiful tapestry.
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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby Stoic Guardian » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:28 am

Guild wars 2 seems interesting, largely because it seems vastley differant from most other MMORPG's out there and because there is no subscription fee.

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Re: Advice please: Should I start playing World of Warcraft?

Postby Stoic Guardian » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:40 am

Star wars the Old Republic plays like a lot of the other MMORPG's out there, but Bioware has spent a lot of time and money on this title and I've seen every voice actor I know of make a contribution too the game.
It's also the first MMORPG that's mostley story driven and has a dialogue for every character you come acrossed, more immersive story etc.
They released this trailer two years ago.


Last year


This Year


The're in reverse chronological order, note the game does not look or play like the trailers but still.
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