On A Sunday Morning Stroll

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Re: On A Sunday Morning Stroll

Postby James L Walker » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:20 pm

Trajicomic wrote:I don't think you people really understand or appreciate Mister Walker or his views here. He isn't chastising liberals, as this would presume some kind of moral agenda. Rather he points out and reminds the methods of governmental oppression, and why they exist to exclude some people, but not others. If you are a liberal, then this obviously demonstrates a participation and loyal to the system. Mister Walker merely points out the hypocrisy and contradiction of liberal moralism.

You people are not really communicating with Mister Walker with your, "I participated in the system, working my way up the bureaucracy, quit whining!" sermons. He's not attacking that. He's attacking the system itself, by separating himself from the system, and passively observing the inconsistencies while mocking them, and you.

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A accurate observation of myself Trajic but do not tell them that for they will not listen.

A lot of people here obviously benefit from their working within the system that they can't be bothered with the inconsistencies of it all where they mock others for telling them otherwise.

Still I do not really care about all of that because I will make my opinions, perspectives, and perceptions here made whether they like it or not.

Apparently my appearance here with its wide audience from them is making a impact just by my annoyance of speaking to them.

Tentative: Hypocricy is the child of inconsistency. I've yet to find any method of inquiry that has 100% consistency. More to the point, there can be no consistency in a processual universe and even more impossible where human perspective is in constant evolution. While some perspectives may be more consistent (less hypocritical) than others, no one stands 'outside' the charge of hypocricy, as if that implies some superior viewpoint.

Smears is right. Crying hypocricy and pretending that one can stand apart from it is bullshit.

Oh, I'm inconsistent? So sue me.



It is the fake and pretend consistency of society I like to deconstruct or criticize especially all the inconsistent bullshitters that run it portraying it as such.

I like watching all forms of authority and the individuals that run or benefit from it fall. I like basking in their arrogance, hubris, naivety, and gullibility because I feed off of it pleasuring myself with the entertainment of it all.

As the world becomes more and more self destructive where the deceptions become greater I everyday hope for a eruption or end to this decaying world.

Every day I wish or hope for the world to burn once and for all.

Surely you can appreciate that. =P~

I am just the caged canary lamenting and mocking the cage that I along with others exist in. It helps pass the time.

I am just the joker and trickster mocking this world I find myself in.

Crying hypocricy and pretending that one can stand apart from it is bullshit.

I have never claimed perfection or purity. Not once have I.

I am a imperfect, selfish, and egotistical creature. I even admit to be as such.

It is when people that describe themselves as being the most rational, logical, and virtuous that I come to mock them in scrutiny.

It is all those people that claim to have all the answers that I so much find pleasure in tearing apart.

I deconstruct everything and offer back nothing.
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Re: On A Sunday Morning Stroll

Postby James L Walker » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:52 pm

"The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual crime."
-Max Stirner-


"Laws are made by governments and are enforced by violence." - Leo Tolstoy-

"I am a disciple of chaos. I like to watch civilization burn and despair." - By Me

"Propaganda of the deed." - Bonnot Gang 1912

"My father rode a camel. I drive a car. My son flies a jet airplane. My son's son will ride a camel just like my father before him."- Arab Peak Oil Proverb

"Civilization is nothing more than a globalized overly worshipped farm where the owners violently and oppressively domesticate other human beings like enslaved cattle enforcing the direction of their labors for their own individual profit."- Random Anarcho Primitivist
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Re: On A Sunday Morning Stroll

Postby Smears » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:55 pm

James L Walker wrote:
Still I do not really care about all of that because I will make my opinions, perspectives, and perceptions here made whether they like it or not.



Dude you didn't make up these opinions and perspectives and perceptions. It's the classic "doomsday is a'comin", and the ol, "government is bad, we need anarchy", then the inevitable, "I'm morally superior because my view of the world informs me of such".

You don't really think you're creating these ideas do you?
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Re: On A Sunday Morning Stroll

Postby James L Walker » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:58 pm

Smears wrote:
James L Walker wrote:
Still I do not really care about all of that because I will make my opinions, perspectives, and perceptions here made whether they like it or not.



Dude you didn't make up these opinions and perspectives and perceptions. It's the classic "doomsday is a'comin", and the ol, "government is bad, we need anarchy", then the inevitable, "I'm morally superior because my view of the world informs me of such".

You don't really think you're creating these ideas do you?


"I'm morally superior because my view of the world informs me of such".


Can't be moral and ethical when I believe in neither moral or ethics. Please try again.

You don't really think you're creating these ideas do you?

No. I am just a post modern cynic, pessimist, nihilist, and outcast trying to build more onto that form of historical perception utilizing some of my own unique ideas or perceptions on this thing we call existence.

Do you have a problem with that?

My grand goal is world wide intellectual disruption and instigation.


I want to incite others. I want to incite rebellion. I want to incite chaos. I want to incite violence.

I want to incite a reign of terror.

I want to incite society's and civilization's collapse just because of the world in being spite of me.


Does that make you feel better knowing that?
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"The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual crime."
-Max Stirner-


"Laws are made by governments and are enforced by violence." - Leo Tolstoy-

"I am a disciple of chaos. I like to watch civilization burn and despair." - By Me

"Propaganda of the deed." - Bonnot Gang 1912

"My father rode a camel. I drive a car. My son flies a jet airplane. My son's son will ride a camel just like my father before him."- Arab Peak Oil Proverb

"Civilization is nothing more than a globalized overly worshipped farm where the owners violently and oppressively domesticate other human beings like enslaved cattle enforcing the direction of their labors for their own individual profit."- Random Anarcho Primitivist
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Re: On A Sunday Morning Stroll

Postby Smears » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:12 am

James L Walker wrote:
Can't be moral and ethical when I believe in neither moral or ethics. Please try again.

No. I am just a post modern cynic, pessimist, nihilist, and outcast trying to build more onto that form of historical perception utilizing some of my own unique ideas or perceptions on this thing we call existence.

Do you have a problem with that?

My grand goal is world wide intellectual disruption and instigation.


I want to incite others. I want to incite rebellion. I want to incite chaos. I want to incite violence.

I want to incite a reign of terror.

I want to incite society's and civilization's collapse just because of the world in spite of me.


Does that make you feel better knowing that?


It really doesn't effect how I feel. I don't see how you can just dismiss my whole accusation of your morally superior viewpoint by saying, "i don't believe in morals", when your actions without a doubt imply that you see people in terms of a moral hierarchy. If the people who booted you from that neighborhood weren't immoral, then what were they?

Ethics is also just descriptive. So any description of any set of actions and you're essentially doing ethics, and I don't see how you could talk about and do something that you don't believe in.

Hypocrisy is something that you charge someone with when they've violated some moral code, so if you don't believe in morals that you can't call people hypocrites anymore.

Those are some pretty lofty goals you have there man. Good luck with em.
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Re: On A Sunday Morning Stroll

Postby James L Walker » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:15 am

Smears wrote:
James L Walker wrote:
Can't be moral and ethical when I believe in neither moral or ethics. Please try again.

No. I am just a post modern cynic, pessimist, nihilist, and outcast trying to build more onto that form of historical perception utilizing some of my own unique ideas or perceptions on this thing we call existence.

Do you have a problem with that?

My grand goal is world wide intellectual disruption and instigation.


I want to incite others. I want to incite rebellion. I want to incite chaos. I want to incite violence.

I want to incite a reign of terror.

I want to incite society's and civilization's collapse just because of the world in spite of me.


Does that make you feel better knowing that?


It really doesn't effect how I feel. I don't see how you can just dismiss my whole accusation of your morally superior viewpoint by saying, "i don't believe in morals", when your actions without a doubt imply that you see people in terms of a moral hierarchy. If the people who booted you from that neighborhood weren't immoral, then what were they?

Ethics is also just descriptive. So any description of any set of actions and you're essentially doing ethics, and I don't see how you could talk about and do something that you don't believe in.

Hypocrisy is something that you charge someone with when they've violated some moral code, so if you don't believe in morals that you can't call people hypocrites anymore.

Those are some pretty lofty goals you have there man. Good luck with em.


I describe people as being contradictive twisted and unsecure animals here. Where is the moral or ethic valuation in any of that?

Civilization to me is nothing more than a circus, zoo, prison, and bullshit factory of monopolizing self interests.

Deconstruct that mofo.
"The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual crime."
-Max Stirner-


"Laws are made by governments and are enforced by violence." - Leo Tolstoy-

"I am a disciple of chaos. I like to watch civilization burn and despair." - By Me

"Propaganda of the deed." - Bonnot Gang 1912

"My father rode a camel. I drive a car. My son flies a jet airplane. My son's son will ride a camel just like my father before him."- Arab Peak Oil Proverb

"Civilization is nothing more than a globalized overly worshipped farm where the owners violently and oppressively domesticate other human beings like enslaved cattle enforcing the direction of their labors for their own individual profit."- Random Anarcho Primitivist
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Re: On A Sunday Morning Stroll

Postby Smears » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:19 am

James L Walker wrote:
I describe people as being contradictive twisted and unsecure animals here. Where is the moral or ethic valuation in any of that?

Civilization to me is nothing more than a circus, zoo, prison, and bullshit factory of monopolizing self interests.

Deconstruct that mofo.



Well, I have to ask....what is it that they're in contradiction of? By what standard are they twisted? What is the point of saying that they're animals except to point to their behavior, compare it to undesirable behaviors in animals and then say that it's a bad thing? How can it be bad without good? How can you have good and bad without morals and ethics?

There's nothing to deconstruct my man. You're just pushing your morals the same way christians do, but you're being less honest about it.
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Re: On A Sunday Morning Stroll

Postby James L Walker » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:21 am

Smears wrote:
James L Walker wrote:
I describe people as being contradictive twisted and unsecure animals here. Where is the moral or ethic valuation in any of that?

Civilization to me is nothing more than a circus, zoo, prison, and bullshit factory of monopolizing self interests.

Deconstruct that mofo.



Well, I have to ask....what is it that they're in contradiction of? By what standard are they twisted? What is the point of saying that they're animals except to point to their behavior, compare it to undesirable behaviors in animals and then say that it's a bad thing? How can it be bad without good? How can you have good and bad without morals and ethics?

There's nothing to deconstruct my man. You're just pushing your morals the same way christians do, but you're being less honest about it.


Contradiction of themselves and the very code they use to scrutinize others with.

Can you not see the irony of it all?

There's nothing to deconstruct my man. You're just pushing your morals the same way christians do, but you're being less honest about it.

What a bullshit unthoughtful response.
"The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual crime."
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"Laws are made by governments and are enforced by violence." - Leo Tolstoy-

"I am a disciple of chaos. I like to watch civilization burn and despair." - By Me

"Propaganda of the deed." - Bonnot Gang 1912

"My father rode a camel. I drive a car. My son flies a jet airplane. My son's son will ride a camel just like my father before him."- Arab Peak Oil Proverb

"Civilization is nothing more than a globalized overly worshipped farm where the owners violently and oppressively domesticate other human beings like enslaved cattle enforcing the direction of their labors for their own individual profit."- Random Anarcho Primitivist
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Re: On A Sunday Morning Stroll

Postby Smears » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:56 am

James L Walker wrote:
Contradiction of themselves and the very code they use to scrutinize others with.

Can you not see the irony of it all?

There's nothing to deconstruct my man. You're just pushing your morals the same way christians do, but you're being less honest about it.

What a bullshit unthoughtful response.



But you see, you have the feeling that they are wrong, for having a moral code and voilating it in the way they scrutinize others. But you're not scrutinizing them, and according to your moral rule that "it's wrong to have a moral code then violate it while scrutinizing others", you've moralized the whole thing. You've applied your moral code to thier behavior and deemed it to be immoral. You are a moralist dude any way you slice it. The first step is admitting you have a problem.

I don't think my response was thoughtless, I was saying that a christian might come up to me and say, "smears you are immoral because of x and my moral code says that people who x are immoral therefore I think that you are a bad person".

Then you might come up to the christian and say, "hey you christian fuck, i think that you are a bad person because you do not follow your own moral code, I have rules by which I determine whether things are good or bad, and violating your own moral code makes you bad, therefore, I think that you are a bad person".

I don't see how those statements differ. If I'm missing something just let me know.
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Re: On A Sunday Morning Stroll

Postby statiktech » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:42 am

I want to incite society's and civilization's collapse just because of the world in being spite of me.


This explains so much. Your delusions border on the pathological.
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