To My Pen Pal Zoot Allures

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Re: To My Pen Pal Zoot Allures

Postby Steve Rhoades » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:52 pm

A fetish can't be controlled once it becomes a compulsion. The drive to getting a fix takes over sound reasoning. Its why we discourage tweakers from holding political office, ends up bad.
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Re: To My Pen Pal Zoot Allures

Postby Aussenseite » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:41 pm

HaHaHa wrote:He was actually exposing himself to a woman where he didn't know a child was there I seem to recall. Still pretty stupid however.


In the Barnes and Noble Children's section?

He's not really that stupid. Where did he think children would be?

I know he's your friend, but the story he told another group of people was that it happened on the subway platform by accident and the girl was 10... He's never going to stop going to jail until he understands that he has to take full responsibility and he has to actually have sincere remorse (and not continue to make excuses for his bad behavior) for the things he's done. Until he's really held accountable within himself and others hold him accountable as well, he will never learn.

I'm not generally a judgmental person, but I am a person who understands that sexual deviants who are unrepentant and continually lie and get caught repeatedly for the same things are not safe to interact with on any level until they become honest and forthright people. People who understand and are aware of their impact on society, specifically on the innocent and unable to protect themselves. It doesn't do him any favors to cover for his lies or allow him to continue his delusions.
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Re: To My Pen Pal Zoot Allures

Postby Artimas » Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:44 pm

Steve Rhoades wrote:A fetish can't be controlled once it becomes a compulsion. The drive to getting a fix takes over sound reasoning. Its why we discourage tweakers from holding political office, ends up bad.


Except a Tweaker can stop being a tweaker when they want to be. Which is why rehabs do not always cure addiction, addiction is cured by will. Choice and action are controlled by will power.

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Re: To My Pen Pal Zoot Allures

Postby Steve Rhoades » Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:18 am

What part of the brain is the will power node? Maybe the drugs fuck it up in far too many people, drain bammage and all.
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Re: To My Pen Pal Zoot Allures

Postby Chakra Superstar » Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:04 am

Arminius wrote:Who is Hash Hagen?

Once again, it has all the tell-tale signs of a Contra/Steve/Turd dump.
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Re: To My Pen Pal Zoot Allures

Postby Artimas » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:31 pm

Steve Rhoades wrote:What part of the brain is the will power node? Maybe the drugs fuck it up in far too many people, drain bammage and all.

It isn't a node. The want has to be more powerful than the "need"

A "god" who deserves worship will be humble enough to reject it; A "god" who demands worship will not be worthy of it.

All smoke fades, as do all delicate mirrors shatter.

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Re: To My Pen Pal Zoot Allures

Postby WendyDarling » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:37 pm

Art,

That's bollocks! My wants and needs are the same. I'm only as complicated as "you" try to artificially make me. :-"
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Re: To My Pen Pal Zoot Allures

Postby Steve Rhoades » Sat Apr 30, 2016 8:52 pm

How Artimas? Biologically, how? I'm talking hormones and brain regions, chart a course here for us, that any biologist can trace with a scalpel in a exam room.
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Re: To My Pen Pal Zoot Allures

Postby Artimas » Sun May 01, 2016 12:05 am

It's psychology. That's why rehabs are positive environments and not an operating table for "biological" changes to the brain/body, they promote ones wanting to change over the need of drugs/addiction.

It's simple. It could be linked to genetics or chemical imbalances as fueling the chances/probability of addiction (IE: the gateway to addiction) though. There is a psychology aspect to it though.

Fetishes might not be exactly the same as addiction, due to it being a bit more biological than over time influence/want. But it is also still very much psychological, which is why there are insane asylums, psychologists seeing people over their bizarre fetishes/urges, etc. (Murder is a common one.)

A man doesn't go to a biologist for a cure or help with fetishes/urges.. They see a psychologist, of which CAN prescribe medicines to help lessen the urge/effects of possible chemical imbalances. It is more to do with the mind than biological, but both play a role.

It's that simple.

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Re: To My Pen Pal Zoot Allures

Postby peitho » Sun May 01, 2016 12:49 am

Without wanting to indulge in gossip, at the expense of someone's misery, and not wanting to get too much into this I can only say this...

Psychology is the interaction of organs, and how they relate to each other - their hierarchy.
This is the personae.

The character is this personae interacting with world - sum of otherness.
This is always traumatic, forcing the organism to repress, hide, and attempt to compensate for organic deficiencies.

Obsession is the mental equivalent of physical addiction.
It focuses the organism upon some-thing, some behavior, that helps it cope, or promises to help it overcome its weakness in relation to world.

In this particular case, exhibitionism, involving sex organs, points to two obsessions...
1- The desire to be acknowledged.
The roots must be found in this individuals' childhood, but I will not speculate further.
Shock & Awe methods indicate a severity of feeling isolated and invisible...unappreciated.
This individual wishes to be seen, but has been ignored for so long that this has reached the level of a hyperbolic scream.
His focus on young females points to a inner sense of inadequacy in relation to adult, experienced, females.

2- The focus on the sex organs, indicates a insecurity concerning his manhood...his value and potency as man, in relation to the pop-cultural ideal, the cultivated popular.
His status as male.
He wishes to be appreciated as a man, no longer a boy wanting parental attention, but more, as an adult man.
He wants to be shown the respect a man deserves.
He demands it, so that he can proceed towards fulfilling his goal of maturity, of overcoming his childhood.


All fetishes, sexual fantasies, expose inner organ relationships of weakness/strength....fluctuating over time (personality), in relation to world that forces the individual to repress, hide, or accentuate (character).
Private and Public man....esoteric/exoteric.
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Re: To My Pen Pal Zoot Allures

Postby Steve Rhoades » Sun May 01, 2016 3:10 am

It's psychology. That's why rehabs are positive environments and not an operating table for "biological" changes to the brain/body, they promote ones wanting to change over the need of drugs/addiction.

It's simple. It could be linked to genetics or chemical imbalances as fueling the chances/probability of addiction (IE: the gateway to addiction) though. There is a psychology aspect to it though.

Fetishes might not be exactly the same as addiction, due to it being a bit more biological than over time influence/want. But it is also still very much psychological, which is why there are insane asylums, psychologists seeing people over their bizarre fetishes/urges, etc. (Murder is a common one.)

A man doesn't go to a biologist for a cure or help with fetishes/urges.. They see a psychologist, of which CAN prescribe medicines to help lessen the urge/effects of possible chemical imbalances. It is more to do with the mind than biological, but both play a role.

It's that simple.


That "simplicity" of outlook is exactly why as a society we of so fucking damned. A psychologist can't do Jack save sit down someone suffering from paraphilia and ask them how it makes them feel.... and discussing it to someone with voyeuristic tendencies (he likes to be the watcher and the watched apparently, especially with those too immature to fully grasp, must less healthily respond to him) is a nightmarish paradox, as all it does is encourages him to relive it imaginatively and talk of his exploits. It does nothing to discourage him.... even firmly telling such a person no results in them shutting down.... but they do seek approval. Remember the pedophile from Kinsey?

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What else can the psychologist do? Write a prescription the more or less chemically castrates them, or effectively lobotomizes him? There is no cure for this, no simple elective treatment.... and many have asked for one. Just isn't. Why? The reasons I listed in the post above, it is a paraphilia, but because it is sexual, and a seeming choice, we list it as free will as far as our attitude goes legal philosophy, not a compulsion. But we recognize the flip side as well, and severe fuck them over. The Marxist/Socialist remedy of preventing crime through poverty alleviation doesn't fit the paradigm either.... giving these guys apartments in your neighborhood off your dime, so they can lure your kid into their apartment between shifts at the job their parole officer got them doesn't do shit for anyone's piece of mind.

It is a fact.... we absolutely hate these people, literally banish them to the frozen, dead fringes of society. We can't easily rein corporate them.... many find work, start a family, but they also have a very high rate of recidivism, turn more anti-social, vindictive, will fuck you over in a heartbeat even when you try to help.

This is the insanity of where we are. A deeply Satanic society, renouncing science..... which far too many claim must triumph over religion, and let our faith and ignorant self interest guide our decision making process. The parallels of a Pedophile cure runs too close to the hendonist philosophy of gay rights, and bans on gay cure testing. It is one and the same, two sides of the same coin. It isn't your minor neurosis, or a passing cough. We are talking about rewriting someone's sexual impulses.

We essentially do this..... rather badly, at reforming them through prisons..... a joke in this crime's case. We know it too.... it is more or less a place to hold them.... considered less than murder, so not for life.... and then go through incredible measures to track them, to limit them, keep them broken on the fringes. How is this different from Jean Valjean?

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They aren't allowed Valjean's redemption because we know they can't. It needs therefore cured. Till then we follow a dark religion of cruel ignorance. Even I am bound to it, as I can offer no solution save the necessity for the search. Something we've falsely erected a otherwise non-existent wall of far fetched ethics against. We preach "go fucking die in a ditch you piece of shit" instead when they are released, and force them to register said ditch, photograph them in said ditch, and drag them back screaming to the ditch or prison when they cone back to live amongst us. That is Liberalism.
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Re: To My Pen Pal Zoot Allures

Postby Artimas » Mon May 02, 2016 1:51 pm

Steve Rhoades wrote:
It's psychology. That's why rehabs are positive environments and not an operating table for "biological" changes to the brain/body, they promote ones wanting to change over the need of drugs/addiction.

It's simple. It could be linked to genetics or chemical imbalances as fueling the chances/probability of addiction (IE: the gateway to addiction) though. There is a psychology aspect to it though.

Fetishes might not be exactly the same as addiction, due to it being a bit more biological than over time influence/want. But it is also still very much psychological, which is why there are insane asylums, psychologists seeing people over their bizarre fetishes/urges, etc. (Murder is a common one.)

A man doesn't go to a biologist for a cure or help with fetishes/urges.. They see a psychologist, of which CAN prescribe medicines to help lessen the urge/effects of possible chemical imbalances. It is more to do with the mind than biological, but both play a role.

It's that simple.


That "simplicity" of outlook is exactly why as a society we of so fucking damned. A psychologist can't do Jack save sit down someone suffering from paraphilia and ask them how it makes them feel.... and discussing it to someone with voyeuristic tendencies (he likes to be the watcher and the watched apparently, especially with those too immature to fully grasp, must less healthily respond to him) is a nightmarish paradox, as all it does is encourages him to relive it imaginatively and talk of his exploits. It does nothing to discourage him.... even firmly telling such a person no results in them shutting down.... but they do seek approval. Remember the pedophile from Kinsey?

Image

What else can the psychologist do? Write a prescription the more or less chemically castrates them, or effectively lobotomizes him? There is no cure for this, no simple elective treatment.... and many have asked for one. Just isn't. Why? The reasons I listed in the post above, it is a paraphilia, but because it is sexual, and a seeming choice, we list it as free will as far as our attitude goes legal philosophy, not a compulsion. But we recognize the flip side as well, and severe fuck them over. The Marxist/Socialist remedy of preventing crime through poverty alleviation doesn't fit the paradigm either.... giving these guys apartments in your neighborhood off your dime, so they can lure your kid into their apartment between shifts at the job their parole officer got them doesn't do shit for anyone's piece of mind.

It is a fact.... we absolutely hate these people, literally banish them to the frozen, dead fringes of society. We can't easily rein corporate them.... many find work, start a family, but they also have a very high rate of recidivism, turn more anti-social, vindictive, will fuck you over in a heartbeat even when you try to help.

This is the insanity of where we are. A deeply Satanic society, renouncing science..... which far too many claim must triumph over religion, and let our faith and ignorant self interest guide our decision making process. The parallels of a Pedophile cure runs too close to the hendonist philosophy of gay rights, and bans on gay cure testing. It is one and the same, two sides of the same coin. It isn't your minor neurosis, or a passing cough. We are talking about rewriting someone's sexual impulses.

We essentially do this..... rather badly, at reforming them through prisons..... a joke in this crime's case. We know it too.... it is more or less a place to hold them.... considered less than murder, so not for life.... and then go through incredible measures to track them, to limit them, keep them broken on the fringes. How is this different from Jean Valjean?

Image

They aren't allowed Valjean's redemption because we know they can't. It needs therefore cured. Till then we follow a dark religion of cruel ignorance. Even I am bound to it, as I can offer no solution save the necessity for the search. Something we've falsely erected a otherwise non-existent wall of far fetched ethics against. We preach "go fucking die in a ditch you piece of shit" instead when they are released, and force them to register said ditch, photograph them in said ditch, and drag them back screaming to the ditch or prison when they cone back to live amongst us. That is Liberalism.



I didn't say change, I said resist. You are confusing what I said. Yes I understand sexual urges and preference are not changeable, but one can resist them or choose not to break the law, their happiness with that choice is a different story. If their happiness relies on sexual urge/fantasy and that is their only source, then I am sorry... They're doing it wrong.

Do not mistake me as someone who is judging or saying they are wrong, people have no control over the cards they are dealt when born, nor do they have a choice over being born either. I am simply saying to resist the urge to do the act. A homosexual person can hide that they're homosexual, sometimes their entire life, some have gotten married and had a "normal" life, that's not to say they are happy, but capable of resisting. I say that is morally wrong though, people should do what makes them happy. The law is not only based on morality/ethics. I am not saying pedophiles should run around having sex with children because they are not happy, but something can be and should be done, shit, design them a child like AI doll, what else do you want any one to say? A child cannot engage in sexual intercourse at young ages due to their brain not being fully developed enough to make the 'right' decisions.

Also. Hail Satan.

A "god" who deserves worship will be humble enough to reject it; A "god" who demands worship will not be worthy of it.

All smoke fades, as do all delicate mirrors shatter.

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Re: To My Pen Pal Zoot Allures

Postby natasha » Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:06 pm

Zoot's projected release date is 1/11/17.

He was incarcerated for stolen goods.

I found this info through a public internet search.
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Re: To My Pen Pal Zoot Allures

Postby Erik_ » Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:02 pm

Artimas, why would you hail someone, who wants your complete destruction?
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Re: To My Pen Pal Zoot Allures

Postby phoneutria » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:23 am

natasha wrote:Zoot's projected release date is 1/11/17.

He was incarcerated for stolen goods.

I found this info through a public internet search.


One of the last things Zoot said to me here was to ask me to write. So I have been writing, not very often, and without a return address, but I did add an email address in a letter, and so he has been able to send me some feedback through his mother. Thus I became acquainted with Mrs.Zoots Sr. as well. She has recently written to me that Zoots has been very angry and depressed and she worries a lot about him. I wasn't going to come in here and post any of this, but given what his mom told me, and the uncertainty about how much longer Zoots will stay in jail/prison, I decided to get over my desire to never be mentioned or remembered on here again, and make a post here to encourage some of you fucks to show a little bit of care and maybe just send a hello or whatever, so that he doesn't feel so isolated in there. He is after all one of us.

Some information:
He was released from NC on the 11th, but straight into custody at Virginia Beach jail.
He is supposed to still stay there for 1 to 5 years for failure to register, which I think means he was supposed to check-in as a requirement for his parole, and didn't. That is at least in accordance to what he had told me.
The website does not show much info at all. There is nothing on whether or not he has been to court, nothing about how long he will stay or where.
Don't send any mail to Hyde CI, as he is no longer there. I have not sent any mail to VA Beach yet, so I don't know an address there that works. His inmate booking number is 17-017188. The Sheriff's office website has info on mailing inmates. the address:

Inmate Name and OMS # (I don't know if this is his old number, 0239833 , or this new booking number, so I would enter both)
P.O. Box 6098
Virginia Beach, VA 2345

Information on what to send etc can probably be found here: http://www.vbso.net/pdf/RulebookAug2016revision.pdf
Where he was before, in NC, nothing other than letters was accepted by the CI. The only way to help inmates there is by wiring them money though something called JPAY. No idea about what the rules at VA are. Somebody ready this pdf, I've got toys to deliver.

Fucking write. Literally, pen, paper, 50 cents postage, and 10 minutes of your fucking time. You flaky bitches.

If anyone need any more help I can probably assist through PM.
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Re: To My Pen Pal Zoot Allures

Postby natasha » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:58 pm

Thank You, phoneutria.

PM sent.
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