i might go and see it…i hear it is a bit sentimental…showing ‘gays’ as ‘real men’…some such madness…
men are women too y’know…
What the hell are you on about now, Colin? Have you been at the anti-freeze again?
failed another attempt to provoke anger…what do i have to do around here?! then again…i was having enough fun with angstboy in ranthouse, but he gets boring after a while, same whole thing over and over you know…then i notice SIATD is perfectly content, and he is immobile!
cant wait for dr. s to come back, i havent been in bad relations with him in a while… 
I think that a homosexual relationship could have the same ammount of love, compassion, and depth as any heterosexual relationship.
But I think its sad that Hollywood seems to be making movies these days with an agenda behind them, what ever happened to trying to make good movies.
Look outside of Hollywood.
The fall of the Hays Code (a result of The Paramount Case of 1948) marked the end of the Golden Era of Hollywood. Since then it has been dominated by Steven Spielberg and Francis Ford Coppola…
someoneisatthedoor:
The fall of the Hays Code (a result of The Paramount Case of 1948) marked the end of the Golden Era of Hollywood. Since then it has been dominated by Steven Spielberg and Francis Ford Coppola…"
K: I don’t know what hays code you have been reading but
the hays code was adopted in 1930, enforced in 1934 and ended
in 1967. I would have mentioned it earlier but I have been sick
as a dog for a week, just now getting healthy.
Kropotkin
P.K: Two guys who can’t tell the difference between love and lust.
Colin: Do you feel that homosexual men per se find it hard to tell the difference between love and lust, or just these two characters? I haven’t seen the film, but from what I heard, it had more to do with friendship than lust.
I just get a bit pevved when people spout the whole - Homosexuals or any other sexual form is purely concerned with ‘lust’.
That wasn’t the clearest message. The last comment that ‘men are women o y’know…’ was a poor joke…ironic…
No anti-freexe here, just good old fashioned fruit juice
I meant that the fall of the Hays Code was rooted in Divorcement, the Paramount Case and all that, it took 20 years for it to be dropped completely…
P.K: Two guys who can’t tell the difference between love and lust.
Colin: Do you feel that homosexual men per se find it hard to tell the difference between love and lust, or just these two characters? I haven’t seen the film, but from what I heard, it had more to do with friendship than lust.
I just get a bit pevved when people spout the whole - Homosexuals or any other sexual form is purely concerned with ‘lust’."
K: My commentary was about these two characters. I live
very close to San Francisco, and I know a few homosexuals,
and my commentary was not about homosexual per se.
These two characters lusted after each other, but I saw no
real signs of love, lust maybe, but no love.
Kropotkin
Well I was never realy angry, just passionatly defending my beliefs. I am angry that you would try to prevoke anger without even reading my replies. I tried to explain a lot of my posts but it appears you have not even read the reply. This I find most disrespectful and if you dont wish to know why I posted what I posted then live in ignorance just dont complain about it.
Anyway, I dont understand how Broke Back Mountain got a BAFTA over Constant Gardener. It was obviously just a ploy to win an oscar and a bafta and they did it. Dang.
isn’t this film an insult to women in general?
I mean, it is saying, hey woman, you can’t even satisfy your man…
married with children and that’s all you can give him? “woman- you ain’t worth shit, so I’m a gonna buck my buddy’s bronco.”
brilliant cinematic slap in the face of women everywhere… remember the feminist cry “we don’t need men to be fullfilled!” well guess what feminist? the “men” don’t need you either…
leave it to hollywood to produce a piece of “art” that insults feminists and women everywhere only to have the feminists heap tons of praise upon it… “oh it’s a “love” story about how a woman can not satisfy her man” give it 8 oscars…
peeling onions is fun…
-Imp
::sigh:: I wish I could quit you ILP. 
One of the worst movies I’ve seen!
rofl
For those who didn’t see the movie (or never intend to) check out this music video a fan compiled; I think it captured the mood beautifully.
I loved the film and this video brought it all back again. (My gay brother and his boyfriend didn’t like it – just goes to show that not all queens have good taste) 
I loved the slowness, the stillness, and the dead silence where you could almost hear the pounding hearts and silent thoughts.
I loved the expansive landscapes that seemed to stretch time out over the 20 year period and I loved the way the tension was strung between the two worlds.
It was sheer poetry – and you either love good poetry or loath it.
If you’re offended by seeing two guys kissing, DON’T CLICK ON THE LINK!!
If you’re offended that women play only subordinate roles, DON’T CLICK ON THE LINK!!
If you’re offended that there are no blacks or Hispanics, DON’T CLICK ON THE LINK!!
If you’re offended by ANYTHING OR EVERYTHING, DON’T CLICK ON THE LINK!!
Hello F(r)iends,
Brokeback Mountain is an interesting movie that merits watching. What it is not is an Best Picture Nomination candidate. Brokeback is often dull and slow-paced but it does manage to present a story worth watching. Like Brokeback, many movies use the premise of “forbidden love”; however, the movie fails to elevate itself above the usual fair offering this storyline and cannot hope to reach such “forbidden love” classics like a Bridges of Madison County; a Casablanca; An Affair to Remember; a Doctor Zhivago; or even a Legends of the Fall.
While the other movies let the story of “forbidden love” grab our hearts and pull on our conscience, Brokeback relies on what it expects to shock audiences (gay romance), it relies on a cultural taboo to garner interest—only it arrives a little too late to the party to shock us and it ends up just boring us. In fact, devoid of the whole gay aspect, Brokeback falls several notches below interesting and it ends up being another popcorn movie. Poetry this was not and even the love story feels a bit forced. The only saving grace for the film is that Heath Ledger puts out a spectacular acting performance that can almost make you forget you’re falling asleep; that, and the picturesque scenery accompanied by wonderful, soulful, music. But overall, the only thing offensive about this movie is that it should warn you that it might cause snoring.
Things To Entertain You While Watching This Movie:
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Think about the fact that these men were cheating on their wives for years without their generally being any disapproval by the movie’s audience. Ask yourself: Is lust and love enough to justify two people cheating?
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Consider the poverty that Heath Ledger’s character, “Ennis” endures.
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Consider the difficulty of fitting in with those that diametrically oppose you.
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Consider that there was generally no disapproval by the movie’s depiction of spousal abuse when it is between a homosexual couple.
-Thirst
Well, in all fairness, cheating is not a patent gay cowboys hold alone so I suggest you consider this in EVERY movie where there’s a person who cheats on his partner out of lust or love.
Personally, I find monogamy an unnatural and insane idea; I simply can’t relate to the “cheating” concept at all.
I’m not exactly sure what you mean by this Thirst but you have to remember, this story is FICTION. In interviews, the script writers explained that they wanted to contrast Ennis’ two emotional worlds by expressing them through his surroundings. His daily life was dead, dull and dry while his emotional/love life (on the mountain) was surrounded by everything beautiful and safe.
Well a) the gay cowboys were not ‘spouses’ and b) they were two equally matched men. Physically and legally, it was just two men fighting.
Well, if you can say Ledgers acting was ‘spectacular’, the scenery picturesque, and the music soulful and yet it was not poetic then we have two different definitions of poetry. I’m aware that I often find simple things intoxicatingly beautiful whereas many people around me keep wanting to turn up the volume before they can get high. Sometimes, the quietest things can be the most moving and the slowest things can take you farthest. Its simply a matter of sensitivity and patience; two things this world sorely lacks. 
PS Nicely written review Thirst4Poetry. 
Hello F(r)iends,
Hi KM, I always like to question the moral/immoral actions in which movie characters partake. It is one method that I find helps me enjoy any movie more. When I watch a man or woman cheat on their spouse/significant other I can’t help but wonder if lust or love justifies the lies, the deception, and the violation of trust. Now, while monogamy may be insane (I pretty much agree with you) so is love; much more important though is that in a marriage people knowingly enter into a promise, an agreement, a contract, or an oath and then falter. Now, I am no angel but if I falter, my wife deserves to know. Recall that Jack Twist often offered Ennis the opportunity to leave their wives–why didn’t Jack just leave his wife instead of living a deceitful double life?
Poverty: I found the poverty in Ennis’ life a much more compelling story than the love between him and Jack. In fact, it got me thinking about the life of the average man, this “dead, dull, and dry” life fascinated me more than the isolated mountains. Why? Perhaps because those mountains were a little too anti-social for an anti-socialist like myself and because that little escape in the mountains was only part-time for Ennis… his daily life was tragic and that got my attention.
(a) Ennis and Jack were ‘significant others’ or a gay couple, if you prefer.
(b) even matched or not, it’s still domestic abuse.
Ledger deserved the nomination for Best Actor; he may even have been cheated. His performance was that good. But the rest of the character’s performances weren’t nearly as good. Honestly, I don’t understand why Michelle Williams (Ennis’ wife, Alma Del Mar) received a nomination. She contributed very little to the film. Jake Gyllenhaal turned in a mediocre performance. Though admittedly, I was surprised at Anne Hathaway’s performance but that is mostly because she wasn’t terrible but satifactory. The reason the movie is not poetry lies in the makeup of the rest of the film like an ineffectual and unconvincing love story. A film has to deliver on all ends for it to be called poetry. The scenery may be breathtaking, but the love story was not. The music may have been wonderful but the dialogue was flimsy.
Just my opinion. What do you think, KM?
-Thirst