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Postby PavlovianModel146 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:35 am

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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby FilmSnob » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:30 am

The single best philosophical movie yet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cube_%28film%29

This is from 69, so the other seriers must be based on it.
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby Flannel Jesus » Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:08 pm

Just watched the movie Sphere for the second time in my life last night. The first time I watched it, I was a lot younger and didn't really pay attention enough to get it. I remembered liking the visuals, though, and so I decided to watch it again.

It's one of those movies that is just so frustrating because IT COULD HAVE BEEN SO GOOD! But it just wasn't executed right. It was really sloppily executed, as if somebody came up with a brilliant idea and then handed it over to a 16 year old to write the screenplay. Jesus it could have been good, it could have been like an underwater 2001, there was SO MUCH POTENTIAL! Pisses me off when they ruin something that had that much potential. Could have been a classic, but it got made into trash.
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby Flannel Jesus » Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:39 pm

speaking of space/future movies, anybody else seen the movie Moon? I think that movie belongs in this thread.

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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby Calrid » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:51 pm

Flannel Jesus wrote:Just watched the movie Sphere for the second time in my life last night. The first time I watched it, I was a lot younger and didn't really pay attention enough to get it. I remembered liking the visuals, though, and so I decided to watch it again.

It's one of those movies that is just so frustrating because IT COULD HAVE BEEN SO GOOD! But it just wasn't executed right. It was really sloppily executed, as if somebody came up with a brilliant idea and then handed it over to a 16 year old to write the screenplay. Jesus it could have been good, it could have been like an underwater 2001, there was SO MUCH POTENTIAL! Pisses me off when they ruin something that had that much potential. Could have been a classic, but it got made into trash.


It's not that bad, but yes it was a good idea badly directed and written.

I'm dl moon now, been meaning to watch it for a while so thanks for reminding me. :)
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby Flannel Jesus » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:52 pm

Moreno wrote:Solaris

Good rec. Just watched the 2002 version. Was really good.
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby Calrid » Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:42 am

Just saw The Man From Earth. Loved it. So many questions, so many answers and yet so few. A damn fine philosophical homage to well a lot of things. But if you like religion or indeed not then a 14,000 year old man is worth a listen. :)

Cheers Pezer. :)
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby FilmSnob » Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:02 am

I liked Moon, it was good even though they try to pass off very old themes as new ones. In any case, as FJ was hinting: good directing + good acting + good script = good movie, and that is the case in Moon.

I'm putting the man from earth on my list. The imdb page reminds me of that Kevin Spacey movie where he claims to be an alien that travels faster than light. One sec, let me look it up...

K-PAX is the one. I saw it a long time ago, but I remember it being very cool. While we are on the subject of Mr. Spacey, some of his more philosophical movies include Glengarry Glen Ross, Swimming with Sharks, Pay It Forward and The Life of David Gale. There must be others, but these are from the ones I have seen.

Incidently, (if you saw the movie then you noticed) Kevin Spacey was Gerty in Moon.
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby Moreno » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:56 pm

Flannel Jesus wrote:Just watched the movie Sphere for the second time in my life last night. The first time I watched it, I was a lot younger and didn't really pay attention enough to get it. I remembered liking the visuals, though, and so I decided to watch it again.

It's one of those movies that is just so frustrating because IT COULD HAVE BEEN SO GOOD! But it just wasn't executed right. It was really sloppily executed, as if somebody came up with a brilliant idea and then handed it over to a 16 year old to write the screenplay. Jesus it could have been good, it could have been like an underwater 2001, there was SO MUCH POTENTIAL! Pisses me off when they ruin something that had that much potential. Could have been a classic, but it got made into trash.
I would bet that was a typical Hollywood too many cooks spoiling situation. It needed on vision behind it, not hundreds of screenwriters tweaking, a dozen producers weighing in and likeliy some of the stars also infecting the story with their needs. Probably would have been great if it had a more no name cast and even a lower budget. Then the suits don't give a shit and often a single guiding vision can carry the day.
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby FilmSnob » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:30 am

Justice League of America: Crisis on Two Earths is a fantastic superhero cartoon movie that deals with "what is the meaning of action?" like few other movies can.
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby Flannel Jesus » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:05 pm

Calrid wrote:Just saw The Man From Earth. Loved it. So many questions, so many answers and yet so few.

I tried to watch it. Couldn't make myself sit through all that forced dialogue. Not sure if it was bad acting, bad script or both. In any case, it was just torturous to watch. Impossible to suspend disbelief.
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby Flannel Jesus » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:09 pm

An explicitly philosophical movie with stupendous acting:

Sunset Limited.
Adapted from a play by Cormac McCarthy, starring Tommy Lee Jones and Samuel L Jackson.
It's mostly about nihilism, atheism, religion and death.

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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby volchok » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:00 pm

fuse wrote:Two good indie psychological thrillers with cool premises: Exam and Tape


Exam is awesome. And if you liked Exam then "El metodo" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427582/) is an absolute must see.
I love films that take place in one room although, truth be told, they usually suck.

If you like those kinds of films then also check:
Unknown http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450340/
ATM http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1603257/
P2 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0804516/ (I really liked this one plus Rachel Nichols boobs, enough said.

Flannel Jesus wrote:speaking of space/future movies, anybody else seen the movie Moon? I think that movie belongs in this thread.


Seen it. Good film, nothing spectacular thought. Also films that take place in space freak me out for some reason.

Calrid wrote:Just saw The Man From Earth.


Very original film although a bit slow sometimes and the ending is a bit disappointing.

Flannel Jesus wrote:An explicitly philosophical movie with stupendous acting:

Sunset Limited.


Saw it like two months ago or something. It wasn't that good. The portrayal of the atheist was very stereotypical.
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby Flannel Jesus » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:12 pm

well there are stereotypes for a reason. i'd bet atheists in general take suicide in old age as a much more feasible option than most religious people. and american atheists probably are on average more depressed -- not necessarily because of atheism in itself, but because of being different. because of being in the demographic that most americans distrust. i think a lot of american atheists have a sense of not belonging, and i think that that stereotype is perhaps pretty accurate (though perhaps a bit exaggerated in the movie). it's something worth looking into, and I think this Sunset Ltd did a great job at that.
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby volchok » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:15 pm

Holy shit balls. That Beyond the Black Rainbow trailer looks fucking amazing. The trailer is a piece of art in itself.

I don't know if I mentioned this film before or not but Mr.Nobody is one of the best films I have ever seen and it doesn't get much more philosophical then this.
Here's the trailer which does not do any justice to the film.



And here is one of the most interesting trailers I have ever seen for a film which is yet to come out. You get goosebumps just from watching this shit.
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Postby Flannel Jesus » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:29 pm

those two look really good, gonna get the Jared Leto one now.
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby volchok » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:57 pm

Flannel Jesus wrote:those two look really good, gonna get the Jared Leto one now.


Looking forward to hear your opinion.
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby FilmSnob » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:40 pm

volchok wrote:I love films that take place in one room although, truth be told, they usually suck.


I'm gonna be making a short that takes place in a single room soon. I'll let you know.
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby FilmSnob » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:42 pm

I tend to force myself not to watch trailers. Ususally it amounts to watching the highlights of a game before watching the game.
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby volchok » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:04 pm

Pezer wrote:I'm gonna be making a short that takes place in a single room soon. I'll let you know.


Funny enough, I think I'm gonna do one too but it might take a year or so.
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby FilmSnob » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:07 pm

volchok wrote:
Pezer wrote:I'm gonna be making a short that takes place in a single room soon. I'll let you know.


Funny enough, I think I'm gonna do one too but it might take a year or so.


I think we should make it a competition. Mine might take about a year or so too, so we could have like a poll.

Or, you know, maybe there should be no competition in art.
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby Flannel Jesus » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:11 pm

hell yeah, make it a competition.
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby volchok » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:29 pm

Pezer wrote:
I think we should make it a competition. Mine might take about a year or so too, so we could have like a poll.

Or, you know, maybe there should be no competition in art.


A healthy competition might be pretty cool. But I haven't even bought the camera so don't count on it to happen any time soon.
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby FilmSnob » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:16 pm

volchok wrote:
Pezer wrote:
I think we should make it a competition. Mine might take about a year or so too, so we could have like a poll.

Or, you know, maybe there should be no competition in art.


A healthy competition might be pretty cool. But I haven't even bought the camera so don't count on it to happen any time soon.


Lol, we are on the same boat.

I'm currently drooling over a Canon XL H1 that I found on craigslist for 1200 (I've seen it new for over 4000).

However, if my idea gets voted for, I might get to shoot it with the equipment from my school.

(The competition would be fun, but maybe it would be smarter to join forces if possible.)
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Re: Philosophically Good Movies Thread

Postby Calrid » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:17 pm

volchok wrote:
Pezer wrote:
I think we should make it a competition. Mine might take about a year or so too, so we could have like a poll.

Or, you know, maybe there should be no competition in art.


A healthy competition might be pretty cool. But I haven't even bought the camera so don't count on it to happen any time soon.


Yeah but that would be so cool, if you had a movie off. Take your time. :)
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