New Religion?

Half-formed posts, inchoate philosophies, and the germs of deep thought.

Moderator: Only_Humean

Re: New Religion?

Postby turtle » Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:33 pm

Kriswest wrote:Sorry my friend I can't worship any more than I can be a slave or servant out of force. I tend to be a tad stubborn and ornery. I can't seem to bend my knees to anyone or anything. Gods may exist but if they want me to serve them they have to treat me as an equal otherwise they can kiss my lily white ass. Ok since its winter and down right freezing to me right now it may have a touch of red or blue in it. They can educate me but they cannot threaten me. I would rather cease to exist than serve.


actually what we need is a replacement for the jc god.....we dont need another religion..
turtle
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 5039
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:41 pm

Re: New Religion?

Postby innolan » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:32 pm

I'm looking for thinkers and humble imaginations that dream this new religion VISIONARIES
WE ARE PART OF THE WHOLE WHY ARE WE FIGHTING?
User avatar
innolan
 
Posts: 305
Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:05 am

Re: New Religion?

Postby Kriswest » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:32 pm

Ever hear of absolute power corrupts absolutely? Since that applies to us sentient critturs here on earth, then why would it not apply to any other sentient crittur of higher sentience??
Why would you want any other crittur in charge of things? You would just be trading masters.
Image

I will be bitchy, cranky, sweet, happy, kind, pain in the ass all at random times from now on. I am embracing my mentalpause until further notice. Viva lack of total control!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is not a test,,, this is my life right now. Have a good day and please buckle up for safety reasons,, All those in high chairs, go in the back of the room.
User avatar
Kriswest
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 16401
Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:26 pm
Location: stuck in permanent maternal mode.

Re: New Religion?

Postby turtle » Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:37 pm

are you all happy with our jc god....

what is good and what is bad about the jc god...
turtle
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 5039
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:41 pm

Re: New Religion?

Postby anon » Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:40 pm

turtle wrote:are you all happy with our jc god....

what is good and what is bad about the jc god...

Good guy but he had a martyr complex?

Is there a right answer to this question, turtle?
"Distraction is the only thing that consoles us for our miseries, and yet it is itself the greatest of our miseries." - Blaise Pascal

"The bombs we plant in each other are ticking away." - Edward Yang

"To a fly that likes the smell of putrid / Meat the fragrance of sandalwood is foul. / Beings who discard Nirvana / Covet coarse Samsara's realm." - Saraha
User avatar
anon
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 8251
Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:59 pm
Location: In the meantime.

Re: New Religion?

Postby turtle » Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:55 pm

anon wrote:
turtle wrote:are you all happy with our jc god....

what is good and what is bad about the jc god...

Good guy but he had a martyr complex?

Is there a right answer to this question, turtle?


there is no right answer...but that answer was good.
the jc god refers to the judeo-christian god...
what would a a good buddhist think?
turtle
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 5039
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:41 pm

Re: New Religion?

Postby turtle » Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:38 pm

why dont you want to give up your old judeo-christian god?
turtle
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 5039
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:41 pm

Re: New Religion?

Postby Kriswest » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:58 pm

Heck no, He is up on the auction block,, I plan to make a killing on the sale.
Image

I will be bitchy, cranky, sweet, happy, kind, pain in the ass all at random times from now on. I am embracing my mentalpause until further notice. Viva lack of total control!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is not a test,,, this is my life right now. Have a good day and please buckle up for safety reasons,, All those in high chairs, go in the back of the room.
User avatar
Kriswest
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 16401
Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:26 pm
Location: stuck in permanent maternal mode.

Re: New Religion?

Postby turtle » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:28 pm

Kriswest wrote:Heck no, He is up on the auction block,, I plan to make a killing on the sale.


now that we have a natural god that makes more sense
we are ready to auction off the jc god...Kriswest please go to it for the rest of us...i already have received 1000 private messages..
turtle
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 5039
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:41 pm

Re: New Religion?

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:14 pm

turtle wrote:are you all happy with our jc god....

what is good and what is bad about the jc god...

Perhaps nothing necessarily. It might be our own subjective perceptions and biases that show something as being good or bad.
A fragrant breeze wandered up from the quiet sea, trailed along the beach, and drifted back to the sea again, wondering where to go next. On a mad impulse it went up to the beach again.

It drifted back to sea.”

― Douglas Adams
User avatar
Arcturus Descending
Consciousness Seeker
 
Posts: 9124
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:15 pm
Location: Within the Primordial Silence of Invisible Waters

Re: New Religion?

Postby turtle » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:21 pm

windwalker wrote:
turtle wrote:are you all happy with our jc god....

what is good and what is bad about the jc god...

Perhaps nothing necessarily. It might be our own subjective perceptions and biases that show something as being good or bad.


comeon windwalker you sound like arc...stick your neck out and stop being so politically correct..
turtle
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 5039
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:41 pm

Re: New Religion?

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:38 pm

turtle wrote:
windwalker wrote:
turtle wrote:are you all happy with our jc god....

what is good and what is bad about the jc god...

Perhaps nothing necessarily. It might be our own subjective perceptions and biases that show something as being good or bad.


comeon windwalker you sound like arc...stick your neck out and stop being so politically correct..

But that was me sticking my neck out...that just wasn't the response you were looking for, little reptile.
Perhaps you were looking for a response that corresponds with your beliefs.
I think it was Jung who said that we have to be careful that we don't become the thing we fight the most - paraphrased of course. :lol:
For me, we have to begin with our own perceptions. All of our views about organized religion, for the most part, are deeply based in the context of our experiences, and usually have more to do with our relationships with our parents (or lack thereof) than with a realistic view of religion or god.
A fragrant breeze wandered up from the quiet sea, trailed along the beach, and drifted back to the sea again, wondering where to go next. On a mad impulse it went up to the beach again.

It drifted back to sea.”

― Douglas Adams
User avatar
Arcturus Descending
Consciousness Seeker
 
Posts: 9124
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:15 pm
Location: Within the Primordial Silence of Invisible Waters

Re: New Religion?

Postby innolan » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:07 am

[/quote]
Perhaps nothing necessarily. It might be our own subjective perceptions and biases that show something as being good or bad.[/quote]

comeon windwalker you sound like arc...stick your neck out and stop being so politically correct..[/quote]
But that was me sticking my neck out...that just wasn't the response you were looking for, little reptile.
Perhaps you were looking for a response that corresponds with your beliefs.
I think it was Jung who said that we have to be careful that we don't become the thing we fight the most - paraphrased of course. :lol:
For me, we have to begin with our own perceptions. All of our views about organized religion, for the most part, are deeply based in the context of our experiences, and usually have more to do with our relationships with our parents (or lack thereof) than with a realistic view of religion or god.[/quote]
What's good about Christ is that he cared for humanity in spite of himself. He was sacrificed for us.In Him is the way but we don't have to become a martyr.the end of violence speaks of how we will crucify the flesh and save humanity
I've given you much to read quite a bit to ponder
is it vision or dream? many wise men will wonder
but there's only one thing that will put our ass under...
if Christians are afraid to bring the thunder.
User avatar
innolan
 
Posts: 305
Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:05 am

Re: New Religion?

Postby Kriswest » Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:19 pm

Question Inno, is suicide considered a sin? Is murder? Is allowing someone to kill an innocent person a sin? If so then God and Jesus are sinners. why should anyone follow such a hypocritical pair?

Turtle, so far no bids, darn it, I would settle for a dirty penny.
Image

I will be bitchy, cranky, sweet, happy, kind, pain in the ass all at random times from now on. I am embracing my mentalpause until further notice. Viva lack of total control!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is not a test,,, this is my life right now. Have a good day and please buckle up for safety reasons,, All those in high chairs, go in the back of the room.
User avatar
Kriswest
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 16401
Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:26 pm
Location: stuck in permanent maternal mode.

Re: New Religion?

Postby turtle » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:29 pm

wouldnt a sun god be better than the jc god?

then the atheist could have a god...and the agnostic would finally know something...
turtle
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 5039
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:41 pm

Re: New Religion?

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:36 pm

little reptile...

comeon windwalker you sound like arc...stick your neck out and stop being so politically correct..

:lol: I sound like arc because I am still arc - but windwalker is also in there. I am legion - I just don't know all of my names yet.

I am not one who tries to be politically correct - depending on the circumstances - i can be quite discriminately unpolitically correct. :evilfun: In this instance, I do think that trying is lying. It does seem to me though that we (universally speaking) might respect one another, despite what our religious beliefs are. I'm not talking about what most rational minds would perceive as far-fetched silly beliefs - they may be addressed, but perhaps in a more respectful way as to not put the person down but as to give them clarity. But of course, if they do not want that clarity, we walk away. After all, are we to address the belief or attack the person? It does seem that in this forum it comes down to that at times.

Let me ask you a question, little reptile - does deliberately choosing to be 'unpolitically correct' - just for its own sake, demand that we deliberately chose to become disrespectful at the same time? It's just a question.
A fragrant breeze wandered up from the quiet sea, trailed along the beach, and drifted back to the sea again, wondering where to go next. On a mad impulse it went up to the beach again.

It drifted back to sea.”

― Douglas Adams
User avatar
Arcturus Descending
Consciousness Seeker
 
Posts: 9124
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:15 pm
Location: Within the Primordial Silence of Invisible Waters

Re: New Religion?

Postby turtle » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:19 pm

windwalker wrote:little reptile...

comeon windwalker you sound like arc...stick your neck out and stop being so politically correct..

:lol: I sound like arc because I am still arc - but windwalker is also in there. I am legion - I just don't know all of my names yet.

I am not one who tries to be politically correct - depending on the circumstances - i can be quite discriminately unpolitically correct. :evilfun: In this instance, I do think that trying is lying. It does seem to me though that we (universally speaking) might respect one another, despite what our religious beliefs are. I'm not talking about what most rational minds would perceive as far-fetched silly beliefs - they may be addressed, but perhaps in a more respectful way as to not put the person down but as to give them clarity. But of course, if they do not want that clarity, we walk away. After all, are we to address the belief or attack the person? It does seem that in this forum it comes down to that at times.

Let me ask you a question, little reptile - does deliberately choosing to be 'unpolitically correct' - just for its own sake, demand that we deliberately chose to become disrespectful at the same time? It's just a question.


please notice that this thread is on "the hall of questions" on purpose...it
is not disrespectful to write ones beliefs....i want a god...i want a new god...i look to nature for my god...i think the jc-god is dysfunctional...those are my beliefs which are just as valid as anyone here...i prefer looking to the sun than the jc-god and i want others of like minded beliefs to join me...i am not an atheist because i believe in the sun...so there an there is much more than the sun out and in there...
turtle
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 5039
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:41 pm

Re: New Religion?

Postby innolan » Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:27 am

please notice that this thread is on "the hall of questions" on purpose...it
is not disrespectful to write ones beliefs....i want a god...i want a new god...i look to nature for my god...i think the jc-god is dysfunctional...those are my beliefs which are just as valid as anyone here...i prefer looking to the sun than the jc-god and i want others of like minded beliefs to join me...i am not an atheist because i believe in the sun...so there an there is much more than the sun out and in there...

Turtle, I'm sure you would be very disappointed to abandon the way to the light.Jesus Christ
I accept Him as my Lord and Savior and I believe.I know for a fact I have been saved from death many times in my wilderness.I bless His Holy Name and deny the thought of coincedence.He has been with me and blessed me through many bad decesions.and I tell you He is real. The region you seek is humanity. It transends all differences and diversities of mankind. maybe we can talk more later
I've given you much to read quite a bit to ponder
is it vision or dream? many wise men will wonder
but there's only one thing that will put our ass under...
if Christians are afraid to bring the thunder.
User avatar
innolan
 
Posts: 305
Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:05 am

Re: New Religion?

Postby turtle » Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:52 pm

innolan wrote:
please notice that this thread is on "the hall of questions" on purpose...it
is not disrespectful to write ones beliefs....i want a god...i want a new god...i look to nature for my god...i think the jc-god is dysfunctional...those are my beliefs which are just as valid as anyone here...i prefer looking to the sun than the jc-god and i want others of like minded beliefs to join me...i am not an atheist because i believe in the sun...so there an there is much more than the sun out and in there...

Turtle, I'm sure you would be very disappointed to abandon the way to the light.Jesus Christ
I accept Him as my Lord and Savior and I believe.I know for a fact I have been saved from death many times in my wilderness.I bless His Holy Name and deny the thought of coincedence.He has been with me and blessed me through many bad decesions.and I tell you He is real. The region you seek is humanity. It transends all differences and diversities of mankind. maybe we can talk more later


thank you innolan for your reply..
i am happy pursuing a different god than you..
i wish i could be with you but it is no longer possible...
turtle
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 5039
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:41 pm

Re: New Religion?

Postby innolan » Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:31 pm

turtle wrote
thank you innolan for your reply..
i am happy pursuing a different god than you..
i wish i could be with you but it is no longer possible...



good luck looking for your god...have you tried idolatry?
I've given you much to read quite a bit to ponder
is it vision or dream? many wise men will wonder
but there's only one thing that will put our ass under...
if Christians are afraid to bring the thunder.
User avatar
innolan
 
Posts: 305
Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:05 am

Re: New Religion?

Postby turtle » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:52 pm

innolan wrote:turtle wrote
thank you innolan for your reply..
i am happy pursuing a different god than you..
i wish i could be with you but it is no longer possible...



good luck looking for your god...have you tried idolatry?


i am disappointed in your reply...
turtle
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 5039
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:41 pm

Re: New Religion?

Postby innolan » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:34 pm

i am disappointed in your reply...

as I am in yours. I'm surprised that you don't KNOW there is a God. Maybe you' re not old enough yet.
maybe you haven't seen enough yet.maybe too much dogma in your diet. but without faith,you'll never see the"jc god" as messiah. but perhaps you don't need one. You sound like an angel with no need for forgiveness, and that,I have a hard time relating to. Please understand, I am no less concerned about your salvation but until you know you need it... not even God Almighty will give it to you.
I've given you much to read quite a bit to ponder
is it vision or dream? many wise men will wonder
but there's only one thing that will put our ass under...
if Christians are afraid to bring the thunder.
User avatar
innolan
 
Posts: 305
Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:05 am

Re: New Religion?

Postby turtle » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:24 pm

innolan wrote:
i am disappointed in your reply...

as I am in yours. I'm surprised that you don't KNOW there is a God. Maybe you' re not old enough yet.
maybe you haven't seen enough yet.maybe too much dogma in your diet. but without faith,you'll never see the"jc god" as messiah. but perhaps you don't need one. You sound like an angel with no need for forgiveness, and that,I have a hard time relating to. Please understand, I am no less concerned about your salvation but until you know you need it... not even God Almighty will give it to you.


thanks innolan for your reply-----

now we need to get some atheist feedback...i think many atheists do not consider another god
because they have rejected the jc-god....
turtle
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 5039
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:41 pm

Re: New Religion?

Postby Contra-Nietzsche » Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:04 am

I think the reason why many atheists don't accept another god is because they suck as people..... they couldn't cut it, they had a series of massive brain farts in not understanding what everyone else did, and they tend to reject it on the most awkward of logical evidence that sounds pretty damn petty and childish in and of itself. It's usually not good reasons, such as Job would of had in the bible upon finding out God and Satan were intentionally fucking with them, it's something childish and stupid like 'god killed my 90 year old grandma' or 'jesus didn't get me the x-box when I prayed so hard for it'. They revolt against it for literally childish and immature reasons, and then lump the great thinkers and great men and women within the current faith and throughout history under the stupid category they themselves deserve the title of. I've only met a handful of atheists who I can say are legitimate, the rest are little most than Lotacratic Hedonist, switching to whatever believe or negation thereof that fancies them, but will pray and hope when they are suddenly desperate and have nothing else to lose. Many also pretend like Atheism is some new invention- it's been around as long as any religion.... or that it somehow has exclusive claim on science and it's a either science or religion case..... never mind science was developed under Judeo-Christianity, Islam, and Hindu-Buddhism separately as well as together, and most scientist are religious across the planet. Many also tries to put retarded doctrines on religion, the favorite being the earth is flat scenario- the earliest recording we have of this is infact the opposite, that from the most earliest evidence we have of greek astronomy they thought the earth was curved due to the phenomena of the earth's shadow being seen on the moon, assuming they could see down the curvature of the earth to see the moon before it rose if the sun was setting in the opposite direction..... not knowing the athmosphere refracted. Most mainstream christian fathers knew the earth was round, as well as the educated in the darkest potions of the dark age knew in both east and west..... only a handful of fools knew the earth to be flat- such as the nestorian cosmos- but he tried to prove it geometrically as well as traveling from egypt to india using data to prove it much as a modern scientist would! So even at their dumbest- they were still pretty smart. Every society partakes in witch burnings- even today we can point to the psychologist Reich.... who is a very famous case of mass prejudice within the scientific and secular community from Scandinavian to the government ordered bookburnings during the 60s in america against him.

You are all damn fools. Wipe the spittle off your shirts, and remember to flush after going. Your no better than the ones you denounce.

I hereby announce myself as the dualistic 'Evil God' of your religion. It's not up for vote, it's just is. I hereby seek to corrupt your treasurer to spend all the money of the church on strippers and cheese. I will remain a Christian while preforming the derogatory duties of the equally powerful evil deity in your church. Suck on it you pathetic fools. :banana-dance:
User avatar
Contra-Nietzsche
Onasander
 
Posts: 1844
Joined: Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:37 am
Location: Not fucking Hawaii

Re: New Religion?

Postby Trajicomic » Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:54 am

ChristianOverman wrote:I think the reason why many atheists don't accept another god is because they suck as people..... they couldn't cut it, they had a series of massive brain farts in not understanding what everyone else did, and they tend to reject it on the most awkward of logical evidence that sounds pretty damn petty and childish in and of itself. It's usually not good reasons, such as Job would of had in the bible upon finding out God and Satan were intentionally fucking with them, it's something childish and stupid like 'god killed my 90 year old grandma' or 'jesus didn't get me the x-box when I prayed so hard for it'. They revolt against it for literally childish and immature reasons, and then lump the great thinkers and great men and women within the current faith and throughout history under the stupid category they themselves deserve the title of.

It's nice to have such like-minded people around here for once. O:)


ChristianOverman wrote:I've only met a handful of atheists who I can say are legitimate, the rest are little most than Lotacratic Hedonist, switching to whatever believe or negation thereof that fancies them, but will pray and hope when they are suddenly desperate and have nothing else to lose. Many also pretend like Atheism is some new invention- it's been around as long as any religion.... or that it somehow has exclusive claim on science and it's a either science or religion case..... never mind science was developed under Judeo-Christianity, Islam, and Hindu-Buddhism separately as well as together, and most scientist are religious across the planet. Many also tries to put retarded doctrines on religion, the favorite being the earth is flat scenario- the earliest recording we have of this is infact the opposite, that from the most earliest evidence we have of greek astronomy they thought the earth was curved due to the phenomena of the earth's shadow being seen on the moon, assuming they could see down the curvature of the earth to see the moon before it rose if the sun was setting in the opposite direction..... not knowing the athmosphere refracted. Most mainstream christian fathers knew the earth was round, as well as the educated in the darkest potions of the dark age knew in both east and west..... only a handful of fools knew the earth to be flat- such as the nestorian cosmos- but he tried to prove it geometrically as well as traveling from egypt to india using data to prove it much as a modern scientist would! So even at their dumbest- they were still pretty smart. Every society partakes in witch burnings- even today we can point to the psychologist Reich.... who is a very famous case of mass prejudice within the scientific and secular community from Scandinavian to the government ordered bookburnings during the 60s in america against him.

As today, the "Educated" really was under the control of central religion, who kept records about scripture and science. Well we used to call it "magick" at the time. But basically the church collected all of their wizard's spells in their "libraries" and the term "scientist" today really comes from the word "wizard". So scientists are just wizards.

Once people accept the fact that most "scientists" are also "religious", then they ought to see why wizardry, alchemy, and other ancient arts of scientists are still legitimate today. In fact, it's "modern science" that is the real joke. Atheists are desperate to believe though, and will come up with crazy arguments and reasons to Hate God.


ChristianOverman wrote:You are all damn fools. Wipe the spittle off your shirts, and remember to flush after going. Your no better than the ones you denounce.

I hereby announce myself as the dualistic 'Evil God' of your religion. It's not up for vote, it's just is. I hereby seek to corrupt your treasurer to spend all the money of the church on strippers and cheese. I will remain a Christian while preforming the derogatory duties of the equally powerful evil deity in your church. Suck on it you pathetic fools. :banana-dance:

Do you practice your faith in Isolation, monk style, or Community, bishop style?
Nothing is more Evil than becoming Man.
Image Image
I, Postman will go Up. :sci-fi-beamup:
Won't you Humans stay Down? :sci-fi-grayalien:
User avatar
Trajicomic
Lawful Evil
 
Posts: 1374
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:47 am

PreviousNext

Return to The Sandbox



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users