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Is There Any Purpose?

Postby turtle » Tue May 08, 2012 4:07 pm

is there any purpose to the universe????

is there any purpose to life???
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby Flannel Jesus » Tue May 08, 2012 5:03 pm

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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby erutxet » Tue May 08, 2012 7:39 pm

to love and be loved
its the only thing worth living for
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby Trajicomic » Tue May 08, 2012 7:59 pm

Yes, since my life has purpose and meaning, because I am a value creator, unlike you who are a nihilist, it can now be said that purpose and meaning are objective in nature, because one guy named "Trajicomic" on ILP, one day, wrote a response to you, claiming that he did in fact have purpose and meaning in life.

All I need to do is claim purpose and meaning, and voila, I have it. That is all that needs to be said really, about the objective validity and nature of meaning and purpose in life. Just because nihilists (some who maybe like you in most ways) hate themselves, and are pathetic and have no willpower, doesn't mean that willpower doesn't exist, or that some, a very rare select few group of men, have great willpower. I do. And so, it must exist and become recorded into the history books. "One day, long ago, a man had great willpower, and because he had great willpower, meaning, and purpose in life, it must exist objectively for all time."

That spiritual type is me, not you. Nihilists hate value creators. Do you want to know why? Too bad, I'm going to tell you anyway. Nihilists hate value creators, because all they can do is destroy. All they can do is cling onto another. They are feminine. They are dependent and not individualistic. They are followers, and weak, and their lives have no meaning or purpose. Think about how many pathetic humans live on planet earth? About 7 billion or something? Almost none of these human animals are going to become remembered 10 or 50 or 100 or 1000 years from now. Why? Because they're weaklings.

Instead, we all, every one of those 7 billion, measure their "humanity" and intellect and potential and strength and willpower on great men, such as myself. Great MEN (not women and children) are the standard. Why are men the standard? Because men are agents of Responsibility.


Male Human Animals are the Agents of Causality. Adult men, who are absolute alpha males, have the capacity to Blame and Judge and Cause events. Weak men, women, and children are blameless. These types are closer to "Nature" (feminine, natural) and very distant from "God" (masculine, unnatural, artificial).

Women and children do not "cause" anything. They are like immobile, powerless, lifeless rocks and water and trees. They have willpower so weak that it barely even registers. Man is the only type, the individual, worth discussing or looking into. Man has SOOOO MUCH POTENTIAL that I can't even begin to describe and explain it to you. It's unbelievable. It's unimaginable, the power and capacity and willpower and meaning and purpose of MAN, Man who is Son and Creation of God. He has so much power. He has so much will. He has so much meaning and purpose that it overflows onto those who are close to He. And many will bask in this pure, raw, unbridled energy of spiritual power. It is orgasmic and pure ecstasy.

It is like fucking a fresh, virgin girl, and impregnating her. It is powerful, because it is a continuation of immortal life, and the perpetuation of genealogy. It is Success, embodied by the definition of power, and will.

All men want this (power). And all women want men (access to power). But NOBODY truly wants the impossible burden, and weight, and responsibility of ultimate, absolute power. This type of weight will crush you to death, easily, because you don't have the strength to accept it. Your mind would crush inward and you would instantly become enslaved to God, as one of His angels or divine agents. You would enslave yourself to He, angels to God as demons to Satan. Both archetypes, God and Satan, offer this type of absolute power.

It is the power, literally, actually, definitively, metaphysically, descriptively to CAUSE EVENTS or CHANGE THINGS.


Why do you have no willpower, meaning, or purpose in life? Because you are a slave. You have a weak willpower, or weak soul or spirit. You are yearning for more strength. But rather than creating this strength within yourself. Rather than fighting and struggling and risking for it, you rather sit like a child, screaming and whining and crying to "FEED ME!!!" from your mommy or daddy. This is what's wrong with western euro-americans today. They've become pussified and pacified, weak in every arena, physically, mentally, spiritually. While the black, jewish, latin, and oriental races all rise upward, very quickly and rapidly. Why does God favor the other races? Because they have strong willpower, respect, dignity, pride, beauty.

You, however, do not. And you will continue to not have any willpower, because perhaps, it is ingrained deep into your soul, a compulsion to subject and subjugate yourself before the feet of God. And you will kneel, and bow, and throw yourselves before His feet in complete humility and submission. Why? Because there exists an existential threat deep inside you.

This threat is responsibility. This threat is agency. This threat is causality. This threat is wisdom and intelligence, of which you have very, very, oh so little of it.

Once you throw off your shackles, your slavery, and begin TO BECOME, as Prophet Nietzsche has written, then you will begin to understand much, much more. Perhaps you will even begin to understand your God, and your complete and utter submission to Him, just a little bit more.

But I doubt that. :D O:)

I will pray for your lost, sick, degenerate, hell driven souls, while you struggle and wiggle and twist your way to higher levels of willpower and becoming. It is comical for me to watch you squirm and wriggle about. It is funny watching an infant fall down, cry, and refuse to get back up again. Because its fate is sealed. If you refuse to stand, and walk, and fight, then you are fated, predestined by God, to die and become extinct. God favors ONLY the absolutely strong. ALL OR NOTHING!!! :eusa-pray:
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby statiktech » Tue May 08, 2012 8:11 pm

No, seriously - it's bacon. Don't be silly.
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby fuse » Tue May 08, 2012 8:12 pm

Flannel Jesus wrote:bacon

I love to start my day off with a little purpose.
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby Trajicomic » Tue May 08, 2012 8:14 pm

Bacon is just a small part of the overall purpose, yes, I'll take some bacon too, thanks.
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby statiktech » Tue May 08, 2012 8:17 pm

No, just bacon! I refer you to the works of Sir Francis Purpose.
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby Trajicomic » Tue May 08, 2012 8:19 pm

Oh I didn't know you were serving Sir Francis Bacon!! In that case, I'll take a double order, and make mine a little crispy yet tender, thanks.
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby turtle » Tue May 08, 2012 11:28 pm

erutxet wrote:to love and be loved
its the only thing worth living for


erutxet----you are right on...that is all we have ...
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby erutxet » Tue May 08, 2012 11:32 pm

turtle wrote:
erutxet wrote:to love and be loved
its the only thing worth living for


erutxet----you are right on...that is all we have ...


Oh, you've made my night
I pray to my higher power to give us both strength to continue believing in love! [-o<
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby Faust » Tue May 08, 2012 11:37 pm

I'm going with bacon. You can't live on love.

erutxet----you are right on...that is all we have ...


Actually, I have bacon, too.
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby erutxet » Wed May 09, 2012 12:05 am

Faust wrote:I'm going with bacon. You can't live on love.

erutxet----you are right on...that is all we have ...


Actually, I have bacon, too.


:lol: I hope one day I am relaxed enough about love that I can make jokes about it
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby Trajicomic » Wed May 09, 2012 12:21 am

erutxet wrote: :lol: I hope one day I am relaxed enough about love that I can make jokes about it

I once loved a woman. But she's stupid, and a slut, and a bitch. So I stopped loving her and started hating her instead.

Lesson learned: love is overrated. Will to Power is much more tangible and evident. People recognize power, but love, not very often if at all.
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby erutxet » Wed May 09, 2012 12:25 am

Trajicomic wrote:
erutxet wrote: :lol: I hope one day I am relaxed enough about love that I can make jokes about it

I once loved a woman. But she's stupid, and a slut, and a bitch. So I stopped loving her and started hating her instead.

Lesson learned: love is overrated. Will to Power is much more tangible and evident. People recognize power, but love, not very often if at all.


Ya, but love is always worth the risk. Always. You did well to love, even though you did get hurt, at least that's what I think. One hour of real love is worth all the 'turmoil' it creates... if the byproducts of love can even be called so.

Don't hate her. Turn the other cheek. Judge her as you would like to be judged. Mercifully, I'm assuming. ;) Forgive as you would like to forgiven for your own wrongs. When you harbour hate and resentment in your soul, it's like picking up a hot coal and hurling it at someone else. You always get burned, and usually must worse than the other thing.
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby Trajicomic » Wed May 09, 2012 12:50 am

Don't tell me what not to do, erutext. And I love holding grudges and hate and contempt for people. How dare they??? I mean, really? Why are people such assholes and cruel and stupid? Maybe "forgiveness" is your thing, but not mine. I hate forgiveness. I guess that makes me more of an Antichrist than a Christ follower. But Christ is still Our Lord Thy God, AND, I don't know how He had the spiritual strength, fortitude, wisdom, and stamina to forgive people of their crimes. For me, it's all about punishment and revenge. If I love a woman, and she doesn't love me back, then what's up with that? She should love me back, even against her will.

But women don't have willpower anyway, so all this is a moot point. Nevermind anything I just said.

If you want to talk about forgiveness, then THINK about this, okay. How can I forgive people, when I have no faith in them??? I can't.

You can only forgive people of YOUR expectations of them. And my expectations of people, jewchristians, feminine men, women, children, have become very, very, very low. But I still hold onto the hope, that, even though 7 billion human morons live on earth, that there must be JUST ONE out there, somewhere, with infinite potential, spiritual immortality at his or her grasp, and is worth recognizing, lavishing with praise, and dolling precious affection onto.

This person probably is not you, erutext, no offense. :)


OH, and what you said about the burning, fiery embers of hatred stockpiled in the center of my soul, and heart of my body, well look at my avatar here to the right ======================================>

Do you see that bright picture? If you don't have the fire in your soul, then you have no willpower. PASSION is crucial and critical and absolutely important in life.

We need more PASSION in this world, in our degenerate culture. We need to stoke the fires and fuel them hotter and hotter. We need VOLCANOES. Is your soul a volcano?

Fine, then I don't want to talk with you anyway. Provocation and evocation are very important attributes of philosophy. People have small, tiny little embers, unlit sparks inside their bodies. But why not FAN these? Why not ferment them and inspire them to grow? What we need is a FIRE, a huge, raging fire that nobody can control. THAT is what we need today, passion.
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby kuze420 » Wed May 09, 2012 1:16 am

turtle wrote:is there any purpose to the universe????

is there any purpose to life???


OH BUDDY! IS THERE ANY PURPOSE?

Do you want purpose? Do you know what purpose is? Do you think about purpose? Do you dare to believe in purpose?

Everything in the universe is inside you. This entire being is fractal. Anything you want or take from the universe you take from yourself. Desire to not desire, and you will be fulfilled. Expectations lead to dissatisfaction etc.. The purpose is without purpose, and by not needing any purpose any purpose is possible. The universe is an experiment of experience for the experience of self for the experience itself.
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby FilmSnob » Wed May 09, 2012 1:20 am

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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby erutxet » Wed May 09, 2012 2:33 am

kuze420 wrote:
turtle wrote:is there any purpose to the universe????

is there any purpose to life???


OH BUDDY! IS THERE ANY PURPOSE?

Do you want purpose? Do you know what purpose is? Do you think about purpose? Do you dare to believe in purpose?

Everything in the universe is inside you. This entire being is fractal. Anything you want or take from the universe you take from yourself. Desire to not desire, and you will be fulfilled. Expectations lead to dissatisfaction etc.. The purpose is without purpose, and by not needing any purpose any purpose is possible. The universe is an experiment of experience for the experience of self for the experience itself.


Wow, what a beautiful response. You really struck a cord with me there Kuse. Everything in the universe is inside you. That sounds like it came directly out of Leo Tolstoy's mouth. What an empowering, freeing way of life. I'm so happy my eyes saw this message. I'm not sure about the rest of what you've written ... I believe God has a plan for us all and we need to plant seeds in our own lives if we want those plans to grow to fruition. I think there should be desires. We have a purpose, to love and be loved, like I said. If there is no purpose to life, what's the point?
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby kuze420 » Wed May 09, 2012 3:00 am

See this. You saying you believe we need purpose is a want. A desire. You are already limiting your possibilities. Let go, but in letting go you must let go about letting go because that will be the first vice that will chain you from your ascension to enlightenment. Essentially... :-"

#-o And about love. Try to understand something for what it is and you could not help but love it. But the love would be a love of understanding. It is when you love something you don't understand that you make decisions lacking judgement. Full of wants, desires, supposed needs, etc... I like to think of the girl that loves how the butterfly flies through the air so freely. So she tries to catch it and chases it full of want and desire - in my understanding a love without understanding - finally she catches the butterfly and like the story goes if you truly love something you must let it go just like how the highest form of control is letting go. Because it requires letting go of desire and wants. It requires thinking outside yourself and seeing things as they are. Perhaps the little girl wanted to catch it so bad that she grabbed it without thinking of its delicacy. Now its wing is broken and it can no longer fly. What the girl loved has now become harmed from her lack of understanding. What does the girl do next? What does the butterfly represent? And who is the little girl? When you understand then love is of understanding. And what you love will need no understanding to show its love, That is true love,
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby erutxet » Wed May 09, 2012 3:37 am

kuze420 wrote:See this. You saying you believe we need purpose is a want. A desire. You are already limiting your possibilities. Let go, but in letting go you must let go about letting go because that will be the first vice that will chain you from your ascension to enlightenment. Essentially... :-"

#-o And about love. Try to understand something for what it is and you could not help but love it. But the love would be a love of understanding. It is when you love something you don't understand that you make decisions lacking judgement. Full of wants, desires, supposed needs, etc... I like to think of the girl that loves how the butterfly flies through the air so freely. So she tries to catch it and chases it full of want and desire - in my understanding a love without understanding - finally she catches the butterfly and like the story goes if you truly love something you must let it go just like how the highest form of control is letting go. Because it requires letting go of desire and wants. It requires thinking outside yourself and seeing things as they are. Perhaps the little girl wanted to catch it so bad that she grabbed it without thinking of its delicacy. Now its wing is broken and it can no longer fly. What the girl loved has now become harmed from her lack of understanding. What does the girl do next? What does the butterfly represent? And who is the little girl? When you understand then love is of understanding. And what you love will need no understanding to show its love, That is true love,


You are a good teacher.
I never truly understood what people meant by letting go of desire until this moment. If you let go of desire, honestly, you will have the highest form of control because you do not wish to control. You've completely divorced yourself from being a slave to your passions. Wow.

Yes, what beautiful explanations of love! I have tears in my eyes. I find that the more I understand something, the more I adore it, find it relatable, and love it. Some of my friends hate our literature program at school because we have to deconstruct and analyze classic plays and poems by literary giants. But for me, I find that I fall more and more in love with these great works when I am forced to pour over them for hours. I can finally see the fiber that has held them together for all these centuries. And it's beautiful. And I don't try to control what I am seeing, I am absorbing and letting it be and letting myself be and we are both buzzing beside one another.

What you said about the girl chasing the butterfly works so well for me. It is all beautiful until you try to cage something, to control it by forcing it to be something it inherently is not. Butterflies are not meant to be held. To realize that and watch the butterfly in its own element is love.

Wow wow Wow Wow Wow WOW no drug could ever take me as high as you just did buddy! :D
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby kuze420 » Wed May 09, 2012 4:05 am

Like drugs... lol people will sit there all day like I want drugs I want drugs and then they get drugs by whatever means necessary and once they are done they soon say I want drugs I want drugs... A horrible cycle to be caught up in. It is when you no longer desire and when you hold onto nothing that you can grasp everything, If you go throughout your day with no expectations and drugs find you you will continue as if it never happened but your high will be everywhere. I had come to the thought that we must think about our thoughts and such by nature humans should fight their nature. That is our nature. A fractal paradox majigger peanutbutter jelly sandwhich with NO CRUST :banana-dance: lol Im high but twas given
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby Trevor » Wed May 09, 2012 4:57 am

Bacon. That's it. Game over.

Love's been done away with already. Fat people will show you that.
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby erutxet » Wed May 09, 2012 5:20 am

kuze420 wrote:Like drugs... lol people will sit there all day like I want drugs I want drugs and then they get drugs by whatever means necessary and once they are done they soon say I want drugs I want drugs... A horrible cycle to be caught up in. It is when you no longer desire and when you hold onto nothing that you can grasp everything, If you go throughout your day with no expectations and drugs find you you will continue as if it never happened but your high will be everywhere. I had come to the thought that we must think about our thoughts and such by nature humans should fight their nature. That is our nature. A fractal paradox majigger peanutbutter jelly sandwhich with NO CRUST :banana-dance: lol Im high but twas given


How the hell are you high right now
you're brilliant
It's true, it's so true, we must fight our nature to be anything at all
I adore your thoughts
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Re: Is There Any Purpose?

Postby Moreno » Wed May 09, 2012 5:29 am

turtle wrote:is there any purpose to the universe????

is there any purpose to life???
There are lots of people who give answers to this out in the world, via books, on youtube, on dvds, etc. What will happen if we give you answers to these questions?
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