SPARK GROWTH

From:

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SPARK GROWTH

"I read one blurb in the local paper saying that everyone at G-8 agreed to ‘spark growth’ in Europe as a way out of the mess. Spark growth?? What the fuck does that mean…exactly? "

You see, the worldwide economy and its models, targets, statistics, values, etc. are all based on the “American Economic Model”: And the Model is really precisely the American one, the USA model, as that is the model of Capitalism, Free Enterprise, Consumption, Innovation, Technology etc. that was really successful in the 20th century, that really fixed the baseline and ground point from which all other models and economies and societies and countries would then be measured.

But the model really only ever worked mostly in the USA: it is a case of Capitalism, but especially Consumerism in only one country, all other countries don’t come close, will never come close, cannot come close even if they wanted to. And why is this ? because no other country is set up like the USA, with large homes, single family homes, large so that you can fill them up with all kinds of junk made all over the world, 2 car garages, wide streets, front and back yards, etc. And manipulable wood homes, not made of concrete like most of the world where it is hard to modify your home, hence huge Home Depot stores with a huge selection of items, consumption of items and such.

Just compare this to so called successful countries that had “High Growth” for decades like Singapore or Hong Kong, or South Korea or JAPAN or Germany: compare their puny tight streets, small homes, mostly apartments but mostly small where you can’t fill them up with all kinds of random consumer goods bought constantly. Compare those countries that “Grew” economically and are successful economically to the USA: they all lack really huge Big Box stores full of stuff like in the USA, Malls all over the place, all kinds of stores and choices and huge activity of consumerism and such. But especially they don’t like to Buy Baby Buy, consume and buy and keep the game going as they do in the USA. Look at Germany, they have cash but they don’t like to buy all kinds of things (they are green and puny consumers etc.), where are all their Malls and their Home Depots ? where are all the huge shopping centers, where are all the big houses with 2 car garages, and such ? Same for JAPAN and Hong Kong and South Korea and most of Europe.

Singapore is a joke: you can’t even have a car unless you are rich since there are no parking spaces and such.

So in a world of mostly puny consumers, tight streets, puny homes, no Big Box stores, etc. green thugs who are afraid of Buying and Consuming like crazy for some religious ideology that believes that Nature is sacred, how is Growth going to be Sparked ? Who, aside from the USA is going to spark any kind of growth ? Like the joke of Chinese shopping centers full of stuff that no one can afford to buy and such.

Add to this the fact that most of the world is rigid economically, is not flexible as the USA (tight puny labor markets not hire and fire and always change like the USA, insecurity people have pumping up the cost of real estate like crazy since they have nothing else to base their security upon), is full of ideology, especially green and tree hugging ideologies that don’t want to Build Baby Build like Crazy (High Speed Trains, Skyscrapers, Rockets, Big Box Stores full of crap and such) and you can be sure that there will be no growth worldwide or very little growth, hence high unemployment and such.

Can you imagine an american styled Home Depot and Lowes in Singapore or Hong Kong or Tokyo and such ? where are the parking lots ? in those puny tight streets, etc. ? That is the problem, that is why this global economy sucks, because the model all the world is trying to imitate is the American model but with their local structure of cities and towns built around people and not cars, with an anti-consumerist mentality, with a structure of living and building that simply cannot grow even if it wanted to. Those places, most of the world has no room to grow, it is all tight and saturated and puny and crappy (tight roads in Italy, traffic jams keeping people from going out and such, tight roads in Bangkok or UK, etc.).

And don’t even get me started on Mexico or Brazil or Bangkok and such: small crappy puny homes, tight streets, no Big Box stores, no huge parking lots, etc. They will never grow no matter what, they are destined to be poor turds as usual, etc.

The American model can mostly only work in America, as the USA is the only real “Worldwide Consumer”, even the closest similar countries like Canada and Australia are smaller and tighter and have less shopping centers than the USA: and then remember: the USA was built around cars (hence they have the largest highway and road system worldwide, wide streets and parking lots) the rest of the world was built (badly and puny) around people, hence the rest of the world will not Grow Baby Grow like they should.

So, I repeat, we need Huge Consumption, all the world must be filled with Huge Parking Lots, Huge Big Box Stores, huge McMansions, Trillions of Skyscrapers, Trillions of Rockets to Mars, kill nature, hate nature, this religion of Nature is killing us, we need Trillions of Jets across the sky, Trillions of High Speed Trains, split the Sun, Grab the Energy, colonize the Solar System, etc. Be a pig and hog it all up, don’t refrain…and Free Salaries (since the Technological Economy has killed jobs once and for all and for good), Cheap Rents…

THE APE, SUBARU SUBARU SUBARU RU RU SUBARU SUBARU SUBARU RU RU JOBSTER LOBSTER APESTER, NO DICE JOB, NO DICE, NO DICE JOSE’ SHPAK A LAK SHPAK A LAK, CONFUSED BARBIE…

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From:

kunstler.com/blog/2012/05/dancing-shoes.html

Your Problem is My Solution

A trillion people living in Tent Cities and a trillion empty McMansions that cost a million dollars each, better yet a trillion people crushed together in 10 square feet of room space, just for fun, just for the kicks of it, to obtain ever more and higher pleasure as ever more pain is inflicted, while you have trillions of empty huge luxury McMansions, oh what fun, that is so cool, that is what I want, like a cry baby, I want the expression of inequality to be affirmed, the expression of power and status to be confirmed, the winner wins big time and wins ever more as the pain on the losers is inflicted ever more and the winner has all of those McMansions all for himself, so cool, that is Metaphysical Justice Obtained. That is spiritually correct.

What many people don’t understand is that there is no common ground, there is no Win Win situation in economics, the very economy exists only because there is inequality (and must always be, ever more and higher inequality to produce ever more economic activity), there is a winner and a loser always, there will always be winners and losers and the winners will do all they can to maintain their status relationship, their upper hand, they will do all they can to render the status and power (as money is a proxy for power and status and how much pain you can inflict on the losers essentially) relationship invariant, even by brainwashing you of how we are all “working together” for the “common good” or whatever. The very engine of the economy is the inequality of power, is the possibility to use others as tools on behalf of some others and so forth: without that reward, without the comparison, without the power relationship and poker game where you can win or lose, without the risk and always changing situations, and the possibility of losing your status and status changing hands, the economy would halt and die, it couldn’t function, greed and egotism and being a hog is exactly what any economy is all about, and how all those impulses and forces interact and change and change hands and such.

So all the talk of a “Healthy Economy” and “Productivity” and “Competitive Economy” (especially all the BS on Training and Education and Innovation, all such huge crap) and such is BS, is just a fairy tale to make everyone think that we are working together for a common good, for something we all have in common, when in all truth, there is nothing in common with anyone or anything, it is each man for himself out to get you. It is actually a logical error to consider the economy as being “healthy” or “good” or working and such, the economy is just a random mix of contrasting forces going anywhere and ending up anywhere with a set of winners and losers (that at least have a better chance of changing places more often in the USA (more flexible economy, hire and fire, always change mentality) than in the rest of the world where status and relationship forces are so rigid and ingrained, etc.), end of story.

What did create a real Win Win situation, real growth and improvement was the application of technology to all productive endeavors in the 20th century, the Technological Economy generating free wealth that ended up really trickling down to most people, by shear quantity and force and economy of scales, and by some market forces, some capitalism, and a lucky combination of forces and status relationships that weren’t too strictly enforced and too rigid and invariant as is now: case in point, the cost of renting or buying a house compared to minimum wage a few decades ago and today (you could rent a house with 30 % of a minimum wage in the 60s and 70s and now you need more than 60 % of a minimum wage, etc.).

But to really understand the economy, you can say that the only real mechanism that is working is that of creating problems to some and those problems and their solution is the the solution to problems for others: I want to make cash by building homes, I will hike the prices of the homes as high as possible, so I will solve my problem of making a profit by creating a problem for you, I will gain cash and you will have to pay a lot of cash, your problem is my solution.

The fairy tale and myth of market forces automatically adjusting the costs of housing and problems and solution mix doesn’t operate anymore: the status relationships are invariant and rigid, the winner wins ever more, the loser loses ever more, housing used as a weapon is destined to continue no matter what, YOUR PROBLEM IS MY SOLUTION, there is no solution to this situation, it will always be like this.

And especially, when they say “Spark Growth”, no one ever says that housing costs must go way down, must be as cheap as possible for other parts of the economy to grow, no one wants to make the cost of housing Crash Baby Crash, like it should, the powers that be want to maintain the status relationship represented by high housing costs forever invariant no matter what.

So how on earth is the economy going to grow when housing costs are still so high ? A 3 bedroom house in Manhattan and Los Angeles or Silicon Valley should cost no more than 100,000 dollars and outside important areas no more that 50,000 dollars. And the same in London, Tokyo, Paris and Moscow, Madrid and Rome, etc.

By the way, housing costs are hugely higher in the puny rest of the world compared to the USA, Spain still has insanely high housing costs for small apartments in Madrid, what are they waiting for to crash the prices like crazy ? A house in failed city of Madrid should not cost more than 20,000 dollars, bar none. And in Rome the situation is even more insane: even there houses should cost no more than 50,000 dollars in the center of the city (and Rome has a huge Housing Bubble that no one still noticed, go figure, they have prices way higher than the maximum prices that where operating in the USA and Spain at the height of their housing bubble just before it popped, but Italy is another failed and bankrupt state just waiting to roll over and die). And what about London ? Another insane city, they must be crazy or what ?!?! the prices of apartments must crash like crazy there, but you have all of these rich turds worldwide buying houses in London hiking up the prices so they can “protect their money” and especially “express their status relationship” to the rest of the world, and use housing as a weapon against the poor in London and such.

Same for Moscow and Bangkok and Tokyo and Seoul, housing prices must crash like crazy, etc. And then especially these puny make believe “developed economies” would like to grow, but how can they with such huge housing prices, another example why the myth of growth in the rest of the world outside of the USA is impossible structurally, the powers that be and the status relationships that are operating in the rest of the world will ensure that there will always be very little growth (real growth as increased consumption on behalf of the average worker, like in the USA) and they will keep on hogging up as much cash as possible through high housing costs and such.

And then, all the debates rotate around what is “objectively operating” what is “scientifically operating” and such, when in all things social and economics, there is no objectivity, only decisions and choices forced upon everyone else, only brainwashing, only convincing everyone that things are in a “certain way”. So you can say that there is so much unemployment and so little work available, and everyone will believe it, and the next day say that there are millions of jobs available and so much work to do etc. when in all truth work and jobs is an arbitrary concept, is a subjective idea and invention, if everyone agrees that there is all this work to do companies will hire millions to do all kinds of invented (or real ? who knows and who can tell ?) jobs, just to hose them all the next day and repeat the cycle forever: the bottom line, there is no static objective truth or reality, only ideologies, subjectivities, new problems invented and new jobs, and new problems solved and jobs killed, and new decisions, always changing (always looking for profits or the possibility of your status changing position ?) and such.

THE APE, SUBARU SUBARU SUBARU RU RU SUBARU SUBARU SUBARU RU RU JOBSTER LOBSTER APESTER, NO DICE JOB, NO DICE, NO DICE JOSE’ SHPAK A LAK SHPAK A LAK, CONFUSED BARBIE…

With regards to this:

money.msn.com/family-money/10-st … ws-on-jobs

Once again, you can see how the USA, the Mother of the Modern Economic Model (the concept of GDP was invented in and for the USA) is really the only model that can work compared to the rest of the world: compare the situation in the USA where there are places that are doing good jobwise, low unemployment, but it is diffused across the country, it is all mixed up, you can go from one place to another, from one state to another and find some work and some opportunity and such. Compare this with the EU where all the “Bad Economies” are concentrated in given countries, in the south, Spain, Italy that has a rigid job market, insane property prices, huge Home Price Bubbles due to the huge insecurity of those populations who couldn’t do anything else but hike home prices and rents for decades on end, who don’t easily fire and hire (they are now firing mostly, but they hire very few people) because they are static, stagnant economies that can’t and don’t move around, etc.

And also compare it to Germany the superstar, the Germans don’t consume like crazy, they don’t buy stuff like crazy, they don’t follow the USA model of consumption, of always change, hire and fire so people can change jobs and cities and find something that may suit them better, (in the USA the possibility for change for the better is a bit more conceivable, in the EU you are tied to your situation forever) they have rigid class systems, you can’t change easily, but Germany at least didn’t have the huge Property Price and Home Value Bubble that killed off Italy and Spain and such.

And in fact, the most important single factor that is keeping Italy and Spain from growing is the huge disconnect between their puny salaries (800 dollars a month) and their huge home prices to rent or buy (at least 1,000 dollars a month), but they blame the low growth on government workers and labor laws and the rigid labor markets but have no intention of changing Home Prices, etc.

But espcially compare the USA to Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea and such or Russia or China and such: they only have a few cities where a “Middle Class” lives, only a few metropolitan centers that concentrate all of the jobs and wealth (like Russia with Moscow and St. Petersburg) so they also have high Home Prices, very little real room to grow as space wise, no large homes, no large consumption, etc.

And in fact those countries have very good “Statistics”, good GDP growth and good economic numbers, like Taiwan and Hong Kong, but on the ground, they have a hugely inferior standard of living compared to the USA, they only have numbers going for them, not real wealth, like the USA that has huge shopping centers, large homes to fill with consumer crap, even Japan and Germany don’t cosume anything, they have saturated markets, lines when going everywhere, crowded, they will never reach the level of wealth of the USA, the USA is at least twice as rich as almost any other country.

But it is due to the very specific history and structure of the USA and its economy, large homes, large roads, built around cars and consumption, large markets, flexible work environment, diffused economy, not concnetrated only in a few cities like Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzen or like Seoul or Tokyo, etc.

So you really think that China can keep on buying 15 million cars a year ? and where will they put them ? in their tight cities crowded traffic jammed cities ? same for most of the rest of the world: the rest of the world simply has huge limitations to any American Style Economic Growth, which then again is the only true Style of Growth the economists all chant about.

And in fact, the mistake is that of thinking that the rest of the world, whether JAPAN or South Korea or EU or Russia or Brazil or China can grow in such puny, tight, crowded places with an anti consumer mentality, with tight roads and small homes, with often huge Home Prices and such and rigid work markets, rigid mentalities, etc.

The mistake is that of trying to extend the American Model, the USA system as valid for the whole world and for everyone, pretending that all countries can “Develope” like the USA did when in fact it is and can be valid only specifically for the USA for so many structural reasons.

And this insistence on Worldwide growth, the Economies Must Grow, will never work unless all those countries become exactly like the USA, huge shopping centers, wide roads and highways all over the place, large homes, suburbs with lots of room and two car garages and front and backyards and places where you can put all the crap you buy and McMansions and diffused economies doing well all across the country, all mixed, not concentrated in only a few cities, etc. and flexible work environments, hire and fire and change and change states and workers feel they can easily change jobs, not like in the EU where if a factory closes an entire town protests and goes insane because they don’t want to hire and fire and change and go across the country to another job where the prices of homes aren’t fixed high forever limiting all possibilities especially for the new generation and such.

One Bit Event

Notice the huge mismatch between the imaginary accumulation of result in labor, corporations, people always working, always fooling themelves that they are “Producing” (no one one knows exactly what is being produced and for who, what or for who or whatever, but that is ok, only the ritual counts), they work “So many Hours” (as that is the only real thing that can be measured, the passage of time, time, the conquest of a another second, the passage of another second, another second dedicated to the accumulation of some imaginary result (but the only real result, the only real accumulation is the accumulation of Time, the Number, the Hour and Years passed, “what Time is it, what day or year is it, how many years have passed in that “job function””, etc.), when there is nothing behind it all but fluff and the expression of power and status relationships, heirarchies, winners and losers and that is all, no common good here, or anywhere, or has there ever been, the myth of the “Common Good”, go figure).

And then the simple One Bit Event, the Mass Layoff deletes it all in a jiffy, exposes how void, useless and redundant all those people were, with all of their labor and “Experience” and such. But so many point like, One Bit Events delete anything, delete entire careers, people working for a promotion for years and the simple decision of any given random turd with the power to “decide” simply decides that the other guy will get ahead, you have been hosed, all your effort has been assigned ZERO, deleted, all those hours and work and overtime simply never happened, etc.

The comparison of accumulation of effort and the accumulation of extension compared to One Bit Events that decide all, that simple accident that killed you, that simple loss that hosed all your work, that simple One Bit Event that decided something, so easy, so light, just One Bit and all extension is deleted, etc. That simple document that you need for something, that simple Bit that is missing and so on and such (and often that One Bit simply reflects a power relationship between people or groups of people, a simple conflicting will power opposing yours, a simple hidden fight, conflict, opposition that is always assigned as Neutral or Objecitve according to some mocking and clown economic laws).

Simply: Don’t beleive in anything, it is all a joke, all an illuson, all a deception.

Every Man Brain (person) is right always, every person is a universe, a separate universe that is trying to force the entire universe to be how he decodes, decides and wants it to be, how his will power wants to force it to be, hence other Man Brains and universes fight the contention of how the “Common World” should be when the common world doesn’t exist, only contrasting decodings and interpretations and will power events and choices and the fights between people trying to force an imaginary, non existent commmon world to be one, to extend through all time and space and mass energy according to only one Man Brain, since every Man Brain is an entire universe.

But with modified and ever more radically modified Man Brains having new designs and new circuits, the contrast is ever more greater between our Man Brain and the New Man Brains, the possibility of a Common World is ever more remote, the conflict ever higher, the impossibility to establish absolutes ever higher, and considering how many newly designed Man Brains are possible etc. the “Common World” becomes absolutely not even conceivable, so many distinct, contrasting, disjoint, related but unrelated Universes (as every new Man Brain is a New Universe, since only the Experience the Man Brain is Executing is Reality, and these can be so many different types according to the new circuits shoved inside new Skulls) all thinking that they are the Real and One and Only Universe, when they are all irrelevant, a ghost, a make believe, they are all 100 % Wrong (but also 100 % Right), etc.

THE TRUD, THE APETURD, THE APE STAR, THE 8 MAN

When rich white american men meet to spark growth, what they mean to say is that they are meeting to figure out a way to pay workers here less, or pay people in another country less, so that the value of a corporation goes up, so that the stockholders make dividends. Those dividends are the growth. They count that shit in dollars in the hands of people who already have money to invest.

Yes, growth is analogous to pyramid schemes and/or stealing from what everyone should own: the commons.

From:

kunstler.com/blog/2012/09/what-does-it-mean.html

"The construction of this massive system, surely the largest of its type in the world and in all of history, facilitated the suburban boom during the 1950’s and beyond. Thus those in more dense areas were able to buy up houses on the cheap in the burbs for a fraction of what they would cost in an urban area, if available there at all. But the not so hidden cost was this behemoth of a road system that is difficult to maintain. Once you start to factor in the rising cost of oil and, basically, all the raw materials that go into maintaining it, the interstate highway system starts to look less tenable in the future.

Europe and Asian, at least certain places there, will not suffer as much from this problem, because they have rail systems, which though difficult to run at a profit, are a good fallback should car-based transportation start to founder."

This is exactly what makes America so much richer than the rest of the world, their standard of living and consumerism level is and will always be light years ahead of even the (make believe and puny) richest of the other countries worldwide like Sweden or Germany or JAPAN, etc: they don’t have big homes and big wide roads and Malls and big stores and all kinds of consumerism like the USA has, that is why they grow so little, they will never contribute to worldwide Economic Growth, only those poor countries that then become middle class are now contributing to worldwide growth.

And the entire concept of Economic Growth was invented in America and really only applies to the American Economy and the American Model of growth is the only kind of growth that is possible: otherwise a country remains third world like India and Africa.

But we must exactly keep growing and consuming ever more, we need wild consumerism (the entire world must become like America and even more so) , we need to build trillions of cars and Rockets to Mars and Skyscrapers, we need to increase consumerism like crazy, but everyone believes in this new False Religion of Nature Protection (give us back the old Khrist, we don’t need another religion), of Resource Scarcity, etc. when there are no Resource Scarcities and nature is there for us to use as we please and technology today can make us do anything, and we need trillions of Nuclear Reactors for energy, etc…

Check out:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=179180

Why do you guys respond to this guy’s post? He’s fried out of his mind

One could ask the same question about a lot of posters here.

Or can they? Or can they. Perhaps they don’t, our of fear of the conglomerate.

From:

kunstler.com/blog/2012/09/what-does-it-mean.html

Further Reading:

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instantsingularity3.blogspot.it/

Author Profile Page 8man | September 18, 2012 2:32 PM | Reply

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What?

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And this myth of Nature Loving, of alternative social systems to capitalism and such is just an attempt at installing a new Theocracy, a new Subjective system, the most Objective and ultimately least violent system of interactions between people is exactly pure Capitalism (although subjectivity is always operating, but in a very indirect and detached mode, everyone buying IPHONES is a subjective choice, but detached, you can choose, etc.), the Industry and Machine and Profits all speak by themselves and force everyone to abide to Objective numbers, whereas all these hippies trying to impose their “Alternative” “Green” lifestyles, “being good to each other”, these “social values”, these “communities” for the “common good” (who give 2 ccks and a dck! I want mine, I am a total egotist, I can care less of everyone else, they are all a constraint, a limit on my freedom always, other people suck hugely and so does all of this community, social values, environmental protection, tree hugging crap and such BS!) want to introduce Subjectivity and a new Religion on everyone with the result that everyone will become dirt poor exactly like in those countries that don’t have wild consumerism, technology, capitalism, cars and highways and malls and such, because they want to protect nature (puny Denmark with their crappy Bikes come in Mind, what total idiots, a recipe for poverty, we need industry, large scale structures, trillions of cars, highways, we must dominate nature to its utmost, etc.), without consumerism and industry and all such things the alternative is poverty, is nothing, is third world living conditions, there is no alternative to the only economic system that ever created some mass distribution of wealth, namely the American Economic System, the only model, especially the model as it was applied from 1950 to the 1990s until the Greens and Old Nature Loving thugs decided to stop wild development and production and all other things.

So don’t believe the Resource Scarcity Myths, the Environmentalists, they are bringing the world towards Mass Poverty, they want to go backwards when we must go forward to the future, Rockets, Malls, Highways, High Speed Trains, Jets, Skyscrapers, ever more consumerism, etc.