Worth of College Education-Debate

[Smears]

Are we afraid of our own intelligence so we must rely on the public education?

I'm afraid of the lack of intelligence in the world and I think education should be compulsory until people are smart enough to not do stupid things all the time and to support themselves.

[butterboy]

I dont believe in the lack of worth with the whole "educating" of common people beyond highschool. Unlike Germany and switzerland, the only thing actually being produced in this country is food. There is no way in hell that men of the north (west) states can survive without higher education (unless you live with your parents). it is CRUCIAL for men in these parts if the states to take part in college educations whether they want to or not. the only exceptions to these pitiful rules would be people that come from dynasties in a certain field (ie your father owns a chain of restaurants or auto repair shops). This would still require vocational school training prior to entering thie field (after all, there is no such thing as years of on site training where you get paid).

[Gobbo]

Are we afraid of our own intelligence so we must rely on the public education?

This is a good question.

Sometimes I will say something - for instance recently I self-diagnosed myself as having a wheat allergy/sensitivity. It took me a while to figure it out, but when I eat any wheat at all, I get sort of these subtle hives. Pretty straightforward, right? Sure the doctor might be able to give me additional info, but I think I have the bulk of it figured out. - So anyways my family (and this happens with other people in other discussions) refuses to accept that I could make a (medical) determination like that.

"Well how do you know it's wheat?"
"Watch, I'll eat this bread, and then later I will have hives."
"Yeah, but... you know, how do you really know?"

Basically just refusing to accept that I could be the authority on something without credentials. I picked this particular example because of the steaming hot irony of someone telling you that you cannot be the authority on the interior of your fucking body. And I think this raises an important philosophical point, and not so much about knowing, or certainty, but with regards to identity, and notions of self. How do most people conceptualize themselves as part of the world? It seems like a mirroring of the corporate model, where being correct is something that is state-determined.

[Smears]

Gobbo what determines what the state determines?

[Gobbo]

It's like a big wheel that they spin and then it stops on a value.

[Smears]

It's like a big wheel that they spin and then it stops on a value.

You know, I think this is actually correct.