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Postby Fent » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:47 am

The wonders of multiculturalism.


Bilal Skaf, the leader of a Lebanese gang which perpetrated racially motivated pack-rapes on Australian teenage girls in Sydney in 2000, was last week sentenced to a further term of imprisonment. Added to the the 28 years he is serving for other pack-rapes, his maximum term is 38 years.

His younger brother and accomplice Mohammed was sentenced to 15 years jail. With other sentences he will serve a maximum of 26 years.

To show their disdain for Australian culture and Australian females, gangs of Lebanese Muslims carried out violent, racist pack-rapes on young Australian girls around Sydney in 2000. Over 50 young girls were pack-raped during this rampage.

Bilal Skaf, the leader of one gang organised the pack rape of a sixteen-year-old girl known as Miss D near a soccer field in the Sydney suburb of Gosling on the night of August 12, 2000. Fourteen Lebanese youths-pack raped Miss D that night.

Nine of the men were brought to trial. Skaf made history when he was sentenced to 55 years jail. He appealed, and the conviction was overturned on a technicality. On April 18 this year a jury finds the brothers guilty for the second time.

Justice Michael Finnane who presided over the Skafs' trial, described the assaults, in August 2000, as "one of the greatest outrages in criminal terms that has been perpetrated on the community in Sydney ... militarily organised gang rape involving 14 young men".

"What this trial showed was that he was the leader of the pack, a liar, a bully, a coward, callous and mean," Finnane said of Bilal Skaf. "He is in truth a menace to any civilised society".

Apart from the Skaf brothers, those sentenced on October 11, 2002 following the original trial were:

Belal Hajeid, aged 20, sentenced to 23 years
Mahmoud Chami, 20, sentenced to 18 years
Tayyab Sheikh, 18, sentenced to 15 years
Mohammed Sanoussi, 18, sentenced to 21 1/4 years
Mahmoud Sanoussi, 17, sentenced to 11 1/4 years
'H', 19, sentenced to 25 years
Mohamed Ghanem, 19, sentenced to 40 years
Skaf is a weedy little bastard. Over the next 30 years he will most likely get a greater appreciation of the impact of rape.


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Re: Cultural Enrichment

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Postby Fent » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:56 am

Even Sweden is getting in on the act.


Sweden Tops Europe for Number of Rapes = Muslim Rape Jihad

Sweden is now experiencing the results of multiculturalism and and its facilitating of Islamization. Now Sweden leads Europe in the number of reported rapes - more specifically Rape Jihad.

"Sweden, 46 incidents of rape are reported per 100,000 residents. This figure is double as many as in the UK which reports 23 cases, and four times that of the other Nordic countries, Germany and France. The figure is up to 20 times the figure for certain countries in southern and eastern Europe......Over 5,000 rapes are reported in Sweden per annum while reports in other countries of a comparable size amounted to only a few hundred." see below article

Way back in July of 2005, well known blogger Fjordman warned of Sweden's escalating rape crisis but unlike the below article - which tries to cover up the real facts and blame the increase in rapes to "party lifestyles" - the evidence clearly shows that the rape crisis is directly due to MUSLIM immigration into the Country:

"According to a new study from the Crime Prevention Council, Brå, it is four times more likely that a known rapist is born abroad, compared to persons born in Sweden. Resident aliens from Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia dominate the group of rape suspects. According to these statistics, almost half of all perpetrators are immigrants.

".......Sweden has a larger immigrant, including Muslim, population than any other country in northern Europe. The numbers there are likely to be at least as bad as with its Scandinavian neighbors. The actual number is thus probably even higher than what the authorities are reporting now, as it doesn't include second generation immigrants. Lawyer Ann Christine Hjelm, who has investigated violent crimes in Svea high court, found that 85 per cent of the convicted rapists were born on foreign soil or by foreign parents." LINK

The Local news report, posted in article below, also does not mention the number of rapes against Swedish children is also on the rise:

According to Swedish Radio on Tuesday, statistics from Sweden’s National Council for Crime Prevention (Brottsförebyggande rådet) show that the number of reported paedophile rapes against children is on the rise. The figures have nearly doubled in the last ten years: 467 rapes against children under the age of 15 were reported in 2004 compared with 258 in 1995. LINK


Now what does the Quran/Islam tell us about muslim men raping kafir or non-muslim girls?:

"Islam gives an open license to Muslim men to have sexual intercourse with women as long as these women are not Muslims and/or when these Muslim men are living in an infidel country." Link

and in regards to paedophilia --This is what Imam Khomeini, the top shia authority says:

“A Muslim man can have sexual pleasure with a little girl as young as a baby. But he should not penetrate her vaginally, however he can sodomize her”. (Tehriro vasyleh, fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990) Link





And even more disgusting and representative of the muslim attitude towards Western women comes this:

Some Muslim immigrants admit their bias quite openly. An Islamic Mufti in Copenhagen sparked a political outcry after publicly declaring that women who refuse to wear headscarves are "asking for rape." Apparently, he's not the only one thinking this way. “It is not as wrong raping a Swedish girl as raping an Arab girl,” says Hamid. “The Swedish girl gets a lot of help afterwards, and she had probably fucked before, anyway. But the Arab girl will get problems with her family. For her, being raped is a source of shame. It is important that she retains her virginity until she marries.” It was no coincidence that it was a Swedish girl that was gang raped in Rissne – this becomes obvious from the discussion with Ali, Hamid, Abdallah and Richard. All four have disparaging views on Swedish girls, and think this attitude is common among young men with immigrant background. “It is far too easy to get a Swedish whore…… girl, I mean;” says Hamid, and laughs over his own choice of words. “Many immigrant boys have Swedish girlfriends when they are teenagers. But when they get married, they get a proper woman from their own culture who has never been with a boy. That’s what I am going to do. I don’t have too much respect for Swedish girls. I guess you can say they get fucked to pieces.” LINK

Clearly the above Islamic rationalizations for rape do not fit into Western laws or civilization yet our daughters, mothers, wives, sisters, aunts, friends, etc, on a near daily basis, pay a violent, humiliating and unacceptable high price for the muslim colonisation of Europe and the ludicrous pandering that the governments, religious leaders, police and liberals have given to the ever growing muslim population. What is also clear is that political leaders do not want to admit their failed ideology of multiculturalism regardless of who pays the price for their stubborness. Political correctness more often than not gags the media from accurately reporting muslim crime statistics. Thus, non-muslim victims of muslim violence, particularly rape, are not being acknowledged and reported for what they obviously are: - VICTIMS OF MUSLIM HATE CRIME (OR RAPE JIHAD).


article in full:

Sweden Tops European Rape League

Sweden has the highest incidence of reported rapes in Europe - twice as many as "runner up" the UK, a new study shows.

Researchers behind the EU study, which will be presented on Tuesday, conclude that rape appears to be a more common occurrence in Sweden than in continental European countries.

In Sweden, 46 incidents of rape are reported per 100,000 residents.

This figure is double as many as in the UK which reports 23 cases, and four times that of the other Nordic countries, Germany and France. The figure is up to 20 times the figure for certain countries in southern and eastern Europe.

The study, which is financed by the Brussels-based EU fund Daphne II, compared how the respective judicial systems managed rape cases across eleven EU countries. Sweden is shown in an unfavourable light, according to the study.

The high figures in Sweden are not only due to an increased tendency to report rapes, and even other more minor sexual offences.

The opposite is in fact the case, the researchers argue; rape simply appears to be a more common occurrence in Sweden than in the other EU countries studied.

Over 5,000 rapes are reported in Sweden per annum while reports in other countries of a comparable size amounted to only a few hundred.

The figures can however be somewhat distorted as it is often only assault rapes by strangers and aggravated acquaintance rapes that are reported in many of these countries - as was the case in Sweden 40 years ago.

The high incidence of rape in Sweden has a strong connection to nightlife and partying, specifically after-club parties in private homes.

Early sexual debuts, high alcohol consumption, "free sexuality" and the "right to say no" quite simply results in more rapes, the study concludes.

The Daphne II fund ran from 2004-2008 and was set up by the European Parliament as a specific programme to prevent and combat violence against children, young people and women and to protect victims and groups at risk.

In 2007 Daphne III was launched to continue the work and is funded up to 2013.


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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby Fent » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:02 am

Even homosexuals don't escape the lovely enrichment given to us by Islam.

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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby Fent » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:05 pm

More enrichment.
Honestly, why move to Canada from Afghanistan and try and turn it into the shithole you left? One presumes they leave these backwaters to live a civilized life. Instead, they bring their crap with them.

Canadian jury finds Afghan family guilty of 'honour killings'
Man enlisted son and wife to drown three teenage daughters and former spouse in 'cold-blooded, shameful and twisted' case

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guardian.co.uk, Monday 30 January 2012 03.39 GMT

Three members of an Afghan family living in Canada have been sentenced to life in prison for the murders of three teenage sisters and the ex-wife of one of the defendants Link to this video
A jury in Canada has found three members of an Afghan family guilty of drowning three teenage sisters and another woman in what the judge described as "cold-blooded, shameful murders" resulting from a "twisted concept of honour". The verdicts concludes a case that shocked Canadians.

Prosecutors said the defendants killed the three teenage sisters because they felt they had dishonoured the family by defying its strict rules on dress, dating, socialising and using the internet.

The jury took 15 hours to convict Muhammad Shafia, 58; his wife Tooba Yahya, 42; and their son Hamed, 21. They were each found guilty of four counts of first-degree murder, which carries an automatic life sentence with no chance of parole for 25 years.

After the verdict was read the three defendants again declared their innocence in the killings of sisters Zainab, 19, Sahar 17, and Geeti, 13, as well as Rona Amir Muhammad, 52, Shafia's first wife in a polygamous marriage.

Their bodies were found 30 June 2009 in a car submerged in a canal in Kingston, Ontario, where the family had stopped for the night on their way home to Montreal from Niagara Falls, Ontario.

The prosecution alleged it was a case of premeditated murder, staged to look like an accident after it was carried out. Prosecutors said the defendants drowned their victims elsewhere on the site, placed their bodies in the car and pushed it into the canal.

The Ontario superior court judge Robert Maranger said the evidence clearly supported the conviction.

"It is difficult to conceive of a more heinous, more despicable, more honourless crime," Maranger said. "The apparent reason behind these cold-blooded, shameful murders was that the four completely innocent victims offended your completely twisted concept of honour ... that has absolutely no place in any civilised society."

In a statement following the verdict, the Canadian justice minister, Rob Nicholson, called honour killing "barbaric and unacceptable in Canada".

Defence lawyers said the deaths were accidental. They said the Nissan car accidentally plunged into the canal after the eldest daughter, Zainab, took it for a joy ride with her sisters and her father's first wife. Hamed said he watched the accident, although he didn't call police from the scene.

After the jury returned the verdicts, Muhammad Shafia, speaking through a translator, said: "We are not criminal, we are not murderer, we didn't commit the murder and this is unjust."

His weeping wife, Tooba, also declared the verdict unjust, saying, "I am not a murderer, and I am a mother, a mother."

Their son, Hamed, speaking in English said: "I did not drown my sisters anywhere."

Hamed's lawyer, Patrick McCann, said he was disappointed with the verdict. His client would appeal and he believed the other two would as well.

The prosecutor, Gerard Laarhuis, said: "This jury found that four strong, vivacious and freedom-loving women were murdered by their own family in the most troubling of circumstances.

"This verdict sends a very clear message about our Canadian values and the core principles in a free and democratic society that all Canadians enjoy and even visitors to Canada enjoy," he said to cheers of approval from onlookers outside the court.

The family had left Afghanistan in 1992 and lived in Pakistan, Australia and Dubai before settling in Canada in 2007. Shafia, a wealthy businessman, married Yahya because his first wife could not have children.

Shafia's first wife was living with him and his second wife. The polygamous relationship, if revealed, could have resulted in their deportation.

The prosecution painted a picture of a household controlled by a domineering Shafia, with Hamed keeping his sisters in line and doling out discipline when his father was away on frequent business trips to Dubai.

The months leading up to the deaths were not happy ones in the Shafia household, according to evidence presented at trial. Zainab, the oldest daughter, was forbidden to attend school for a year because she had a young Pakistani-Canadian boyfriend, and she fled to a shelter, terrified of her father.

The prosecution said her parents found condoms in Sahar's room as well as photos of her wearing short skirts and hugging her Christian boyfriend, a relationship she had kept secret. Geeti was skipping school, failing classes, being sent home for wearing revealing clothes and stealing, while declaring to authority figures that she wanted to be placed in foster care, according to the prosecution.

Shafia's first wife wrote in a diary that her husband beat her and "made life a torture", while his second wife called her a servant.

The prosecution presented wire taps and mobile phone records from the Shafia family in court to support their honour killing allegation. The wiretaps captured Shafia spewing vitriol about his dead daughters, calling them treacherous and whores and invoking the devil to defecate on their graves.

"There can be no betrayal, no treachery, no violation more than this," Shafia said on one recording. "Even if they hoist me up onto the gallows ... nothing is more dear to me than my honour."

Defence lawyers argued that at no point in the intercepts did the accused say they drowned the victims.

Shafia's lawyer, Peter Kemp, said after the verdicts that he believed the comments his client made on the wiretaps may have weighed more heavily on the jury's minds than the physical evidence in the case.

"He wasn't convicted for what he did," Kemp said. "He was convicted for what he said."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/30/honour-killings-jury-afghan-family
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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby Fent » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:16 pm

An Imam in Sydney refers to Australian women as 'cat meat.'

Only Islam realizes that when muslim men are aroused they must have it right away. No wonder that western prisons are filled with muslim rapists. Austarlia’s top Imam and mufti , Sheik Tajuddin Halali decalred the muslim rapists , terrorizing unveiled women in the west, innocent. Here is an excerpt from a news paper..

(Daily Mail)

MUSLIM CLERIC LIKENS WOMEN TO UNCOVERED MEAT

.Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali, the nation's most senior Muslim cleric, compared unveiled women with meat that is left uncovered in the street and is then eaten by cats.

In a Ramadan sermon in a Sydney mosque, Sheik al-Hilali suggested that a group of Muslim men recently jailed for many years for gang rapes are innocent.

Addressing 500 worshippers on the topic of adultery, Sheik al-Hilali added: "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it..whose fault is it - the cats or the uncovered meat?

"The uncovered meat is the problem."

He went on: "If she was veiled and in her home no problem would have occurred."


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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby Flannel Jesus » Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:44 pm

Right, so what he's really saying is that Muslim men have the self-restraint of cats, and so should hardly be considered human.
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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby Trevor » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:34 pm

There were incidents of gangs of Muslim youths doing the same in the UK not too long ago too.
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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby SIATD v2 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:22 pm

Because non Muslims have never committed any acts of violence...
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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby Trevor » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:33 am

SIATD v2 wrote:Because non Muslims have never committed any acts of violence...


There's a characteristic of these rapes. Namely, groups/gangs organising themselves to target specific people. In these examples, Muslim gangs targeting white women, or the women of the other culture. That of their hosts. It's not neccessearily Muslims per se (yet), but in "Western" countries Muslims count for many of the migrants. It's an issue of multiculturalism.
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Postby SIATD v2 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:26 am

And perhaps there'd be less Muslim immigration if we didn't bomb the fuck out of any Muslim country we thought we could get away with bombing the fuck out of.

But of course, NATO killing hundreds of thousands of people in Muslim countries vs. a few Muslim gangs committing horrible crimes must mean that the Muslims are trying to take over the West, and doesn't in any way mean the West is trying to take over Muslim countries.


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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby Trevor » Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:19 pm

What, is that some form of excuse?
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Postby SIATD v2 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:52 pm

No, but it doesn't surprise me that you responded in that way. If you think in opposites, then everyone who fails to condemn people to the same extent you do is thereby 'excusing' them.

In context, a few Muslims raping a few people is nowhere near as big a crime as constant large scale warfare. So ask yourself, why is it presented as being so very much worse? Is it possibly because our newspaper think that raping white girls is worse than killing brown girls?


It just might be...
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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby Trevor » Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:57 pm

SIATD v2 wrote:No, but it doesn't surprise me that you responded in that way. If you think in opposites, then everyone who fails to condemn people to the same extent you do is thereby 'excusing' them.

In context, a few Muslims raping a few people is nowhere near as big a crime as constant large scale warfare. So ask yourself, why is it presented as being so very much worse? Is it possibly because our newspaper think that raping white girls is worse than killing brown girls?


It just might be...


Why would people fail to condemn rape? And gang rape at that. *snigger*

If the rapes are done as a reaction against what those whiteys have been up to in the ME, then discuss it as such.
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Postby SIATD v2 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:49 pm

Trevor wrote:Why would people fail to condemn rape? And gang rape at that. *snigger*


I have no idea why you're asking me that, or sniggering.

If the rapes are done as a reaction against what those whiteys have been up to in the ME, then discuss it as such.


They aren't. I'm just putting the crimes in context vis a vis who is trying to take over what...
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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby Moreno » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:48 pm

Fent wrote:The wonders of multiculturalism.
The wonders of multiculturalism in Australia began when Europeans came and perpetrated a whole set of crimes against the natives. Of course that is always seen as natural and inevitable actions of the good monoculturalism by people who hate multiculturalism. Always this silence on matters that reveals the racism.
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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby ScavengingVulture » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:49 pm

Multiculturalism ideologically speaking is about globalism and the elimination of nationalism or tribalism.

I would like anybody to prove me incorrect.

It has everything to do for the set up of global government eventually.
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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby Trevor » Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:00 am

SIATD v2 wrote:
If the rapes are done as a reaction against what those whiteys have been up to in the ME, then discuss it as such.


They aren't. I'm just putting the crimes in context vis a vis who is trying to take over what...


I don't really see what the context, or your point is. It sounds somewhat apologetic. Are we not to condemn, villify, the perpatrators in these cases just because the US and its cronies invaded a few countries. Will everything be framed according to the greater crime commited elsewhere? "Sorry, for breaking into your home, but really it's not that big of a deal, because don't you know, that someone somewhere is doing something worse. Thanks."

Either way, I'd burn them all (rapists, & politicians) at the stake.

But still, the nature of these crimes hasn't been discussed. Why in gangs? Why only white women? Why Muslims?
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SIATD v2 wrote:
If the rapes are done as a reaction against what those whiteys have been up to in the ME, then discuss it as such.


They aren't. I'm just putting the crimes in context vis a vis who is trying to take over what...


I don't really see what the context, or your point is.


This thread was started as an effort to provide proof that Muslims are evil scum who are trying to take over the West.

I am arguing that some Muslims are evil scum, but that their crimes are not on anything like the same scale as perpetual war in the Middle East (where the population is mostly Muslims). Furthermore, those wars create a lot of Muslim migration to the West, and hence the 'invasion' of Europe by Muslims is more a consequence of the West's attempts to take over the Middle East than the other way round.

It sounds somewhat apologetic.


As I say, that's because I'm failing to condemn these gang rapists in as strong terms as others on this thread, and that is how the mentality work when one is scapegoating - anyone failing to scapegoat to the same extent and in the same vociferous terms is seen as an apologist. It's a ridiculous attitude to have.

Are we not to condemn, villify, the perpatrators in these cases just because the US and its cronies invaded a few countries.


Condemn? Sure, why not?

Vilify? Why bother? What purpose does it serve to create demons as a focal point for hatred? Particularly when one is being asked to do that as part of a racist dickhead agenda, as on this thread?

I think a sense of scale is important. Gang raping girls is pretty fucking horrible, but it's not gang raping and then killing, or killing and then gang raping, an entire country. As I said, the reason the former is condemned but the latter is praised appears to be due to the colour of the girls involved.

Will everything be framed according to the greater crime commited elsewhere? "Sorry, for breaking into your home, but really it's not that big of a deal, because don't you know, that someone somewhere is doing something worse. Thanks."


This is an irrelevant analogy and a straw man.

Either way, I'd burn them all (rapists, & politicians) at the stake.


Stop trying to prove how tough you are, you are convincing no one.

But still, the nature of these crimes hasn't been discussed. Why in gangs? Why only white women? Why Muslims?


Why only discuss the nature of these crimes? To me, it's far more important to ask: why fight wars? Why have a permanent standing army and arms industry? Why only Muslim countries?
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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby Moreno » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:39 am

ScavengingVulture wrote:Multiculturalism ideologically speaking is about globalism and the elimination of nationalism or tribalism.

I would like anybody to prove me incorrect.

It has everything to do for the set up of global government eventually.
When did this multiculturalism start. As far as I can tell premulticulturalism tribes were being eliminated by nation states.

And tribalism is already gone, taken care of by those nations.
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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby Moreno » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:20 am

Trevor wrote:
SIATD v2 wrote:Because non Muslims have never committed any acts of violence...


There's a characteristic of these rapes. Namely, groups/gangs organising themselves to target specific people. In these examples, Muslim gangs targeting white women, or the women of the other culture. That of their hosts. It's not neccessearily Muslims per se (yet), but in "Western" countries Muslims count for many of the migrants. It's an issue of multiculturalism.
Gangs are sort of like small armies. So we can then place this in a context of large armies, like the ones that have been playing checkers with the Middle East for centuries. Why is this not seen as multiculturalism? Why haven't the people who complain about multiculturalism complained about, say, US foreign policy in Latin America, where US culture and desires were imposed on other cultures? Why do the anti-multiculturalists generally defend, say, the coloniztion of North America by Europeans, even though this was the mixing of cultures, the domination of other cultures and involved rape also. It's like multiculturalism is OK as long as our team does it, but if it involves felafel stands in my neighborhood it is a crime.
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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby SIATD v2 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:38 am

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SIATD v2 wrote:Because non Muslims have never committed any acts of violence...


There's a characteristic of these rapes. Namely, groups/gangs organising themselves to target specific people. In these examples, Muslim gangs targeting white women, or the women of the other culture. That of their hosts. It's not neccessearily Muslims per se (yet), but in "Western" countries Muslims count for many of the migrants. It's an issue of multiculturalism.
Gangs are sort of like small armies. So we can then place this in a context of large armies, like the ones that have been playing checkers with the Middle East for centuries. Why is this not seen as multiculturalism? Why haven't the people who complain about multiculturalism complained about, say, US foreign policy in Latin America, where US culture and desires were imposed on other cultures? Why do the anti-multiculturalists generally defend, say, the coloniztion of North America by Europeans, even though this was the mixing of cultures, the domination of other cultures and involved rape also. It's like multiculturalism is OK as long as our team does it, but if it involves felafel stands in my neighborhood it is a crime.


Because all this really boils down to is 'the globalised capitalist world makes me feel dislocated, alienated, and desperate for a sense of identity. Since I am white, and that's not going to change, I'm going to make that my identity, and be racist in the name of protecting that sense of identity'. Basically, weakness+stupidity+lack of sense of self = opposition to what we call multiculturalism.
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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby Trevor » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:29 pm

SIATD v2 wrote:Why only discuss the nature of these crimes? To me, it's far more important to ask: why fight wars? Why have a permanent standing army and arms industry? Why only Muslim countries?


Start those threads. The OP has clearly shown in what direction he wishes to take this. You seem to be insisting on one particular facet of the subject besides it not being the one that has been put up for discussion here.

I'm residing in a mono-culture, and its dull. I like variety a tastes. It's just that some taste better than others.

Two of the worst being American pop-culture and Islam.
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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby SIATD v2 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:35 pm

Trevor wrote:
SIATD v2 wrote:Why only discuss the nature of these crimes? To me, it's far more important to ask: why fight wars? Why have a permanent standing army and arms industry? Why only Muslim countries?


Start those threads.


Unlike the OP, I'm not so egotistical I feel the need to start a new thread in order to try to make one point in an argument from another thread.

The OP has clearly shown in what direction he wishes to take this.


A racist one?

You seem to be insisting on one particular facet of the subject besides it not being the one that has been put up for discussion here.


And heaven forbid anyone disagree with the opening post in a thread and take a thread in a direction that actually, y'know, bears some relation to reality rather than just being the expression of racism.

I'm residing in a mono-culture, and its dull. I like variety a tastes. It's just that some taste better than others.

Two of the worst being American pop-culture and Islam.


The very fact you think that 'Islam' is just one taste is pretty daft...
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Re: Cultural Enrichment

Postby Moreno » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:56 pm

SIATD v2 wrote:Because all this really boils down to is 'the globalised capitalist world makes me feel dislocated, alienated, and desperate for a sense of identity. Since I am white, and that's not going to change, I'm going to make that my identity, and be racist in the name of protecting that sense of identity'. Basically, weakness+stupidity+lack of sense of self = opposition to what we call multiculturalism.

I had trouble getting exactly what your view was here. I think it is meant as critical of the view presented, but I am not sure.

I have many concerns about globalization and the centralization of power. But some of this is inevitable given changes in technology. People are going to mix more, regardless of what power is doing behind the scenes. And many people will want to interact beyond their categories. We do this.

The kind of historyless hatred in Fent's posts, with no acknowledgement of anyone's crimes but those with darker skins or the wrong religion, is doing a lot of damage. It implies that that answer is to hate and separate out people who are less human than us, which is much easier than dealing with those with actual power.

I get the sense you have some agreement at least with this, but I couldn't quite place your post.
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