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Normal ?

Look at how many changes have occurred in only 100 years: the family structure is completely different (especially in the EU and JAPAN!), many have only one child, others have none at all, many couples can’t even conceive, sometimes the only child has so many aunts and uncles (so to say) that never had kids, so they grow up in such a special - particular environment: compare this to 100 years ago when the families (mostly farmers) were way larger, mom stayed at home, babies died earlier, moms died fast when expecting and so many other changes in just the family structure, such as so many divorces, or many people marry many times in a lifetime, or don’t marry at all, and then some kids may have many moms, 2 dads, queer dads, no moms and dads, and all kinds of crazy combinations and so forth, all changing, all a flux, nothing stable, single parents, everything out of control or unknown or like a continuous experiment, how to experiment with all kinds of “family” structures, if the word “family” can even be used and such.

BUt even this was due to that very “Not Normal” time when technology and the modern era started kicking in and changing everything, eveything got changed very quickly, in only a few decades, people went from farming to office jobs and such, studying became common place, so many changes in such a short time is not normal, entire industries hiring millions in cars and jets and TVs and so forth, all of a sudden in such a short time along with all the other corresponding changes, we went from backwards to forwards in a jiffy: and this is not normal. We are still trying to catch up psychologically with all of these rapid changes (and JHK and his freinds are still fighting TV and cars, still fighting technologies that came out 60 years ago), we still can’t even figure out what happened, work disappearing and we still use the factory model of 8 hours a day, something totally ridiculous, the entire idea of steady marriage and family and normal mom and dad is no longer even present - sure, it is always being criticized by all of the queers and such.

And don’t even get me started on all of the other deep changes, atom bombs, relativity, quantum mechanics discovered, freud, a never ending array of theories, science, ideas, research in so many areas, the information society (or age ?) with a glut of never ending information and so forth (and then the counterculture, rock, hippies, drugs), everyone had to get a college degree, the past was done and over with, now we were all headed towards the future, space exploration and so forth. And at the same time the parents of kids expected and expecting them to follow their same path, go to college, get married, have two kids, work for a large company at a steady job, mom at home and so forth, when this model only lasted at most 30 years and was due to such a particular moment in history when the USA was a manufacturing giant, mom could stay at home since dad got paid enough to support them and so on: compare that to today, when jobs are not only unsecure, but no one even knows what jobs must be done, the future is all uncertain, the 1950s and 1960s model broke forever and so forth.

The mistake is that of thinking that changes are normal (hence all the emphasis on innovation and research, they expect a constant stream of life changing technologies to keep on coming online forever, hiring millions when this was a truly unique, exceptional time in history, a one time quirk that has expired is finished, has lost its drive and can’t happen again all over): it was not normal, it is not normal, it was a one time quirk with all of the changes happening simultaneously, changing everything, the very first time a consumerist cvilization and society appeared on earth, the USA was and still is the only real consumerist society, and the model of the USA was supposed to be imitated by other countries, but no one ever really matched and imitated the USA, other countries all ended up wanting to export their goods instead of consuming them, and then the USA was a new experiment, the first time factory workers and normal workers were actually paid a decent salary exactly to make them consume all the goods being produced, and the entire structure of the USA was (and still is) geared to consuming and buying, big box stores, malls, large homes, 2 car garages, wide open spaces and so forth, all things that no other country could ever create: but especially the USA was the very first society to completely change the culture and pyschology and mentality of millions of people away from a scarcity, poverty, save your cash and poverty - insecurity model (still operating in most of the world - and why home prices are so high in the rest of the world, all insecure people saving and loading up home prices as a storage for money instead of consuming, just look at how little JAPAN and Germany consume, they all want to export, they all have puny little homes and don’t want to consume like crazy with 2 car garages, big box stores, malls and so forth) to a happy go lucky, the future will always be better consumption model.

BUt none of this was and is normal, it was just a lucky break, an exception: and now we are at the end of the road of this great illusion, now we are at the end of this growth model, but there never was a model in the first place, something that has happened in only the last few decades can’t be considered a model at all, can’t be expected in the future, a past play of forces - configuration of forces and effects can’t be expected to keep on playing out in the future, you can’t invent “economic laws” based on such a short period of time, especially considering how many effects and changes occured in that period, the mistake and idea that that short time was normal, was a given, the taking for granted that modern was achieved, is achieved forever, can only keep on going up, the entire idea of GDP as a new law, a fundamental law, when the entire phenomea the economists were looking at was a one time experiment, that never happened in the past and will never happen again the future: it is not normal to live in workless societies and rich societies, none of this is normal, and it is all something that has been around for only a few decades.

Stagnation is normal, poverty is normal, or very slow and little changes is normal, and in fact most of humanity and civilization has lived in slowly changing stagnating societies (but the mistake is calling something normal “stagnating”, when in all truth it is growth that is not normal and stagnation is just the normal ways of things, slow changes and little changes is the normal way of things, bored societies that need some action every now in then in the form of wars, or dictators or violence o whatever to break the monotony).

We will probably enter a long period of Stagnation, slow changes, some places will keep on getting richer up to a certain point (like China) but only up to the point that they can change their mentality into a consumerist mentality which I doubt will happen, these are deep cultural - psychological changes needed, only happened once in history and in the USA from 1930 to 1970, I doubt that it can happen again anywhere else, other places like Southern Europe will become poor again, India will remain the crap it is, and so forth, this expectation and hope that the emerging BRICS can really pull off a society like the USA is doomed, won’t happen, they will increasingly buy cell phone and cars and other things, but they won’t get any further than Spain and will find themselves as Spain is today in the end.

Although this is an ongoing experiment of worldwide industrialization, no one knows what climate change effects all the pollution and activity can have and will have (along with antibiotics, viruses and so forth), no one is sure of anything like peak oil and such, I don’t expect extremes, I don’t expect neither collapse like JHK hopes or rockets to mars either, we will probably have something in the middle, some places going up some going down, the statistical flukes will average out to a middle ground of low middle class life across most of the world, like 700 dollars a month salary, most jobs will disappear, most people won’t be in pain but won’t be in great pleasure either, most of the world will “stagnate” even though this concept is wrong: most of the world will return to normal again, and we better hope so otherwise probably more crazy and worst things could happen: wars, dictators, violence, who knows. Technology may or may not go forward, I am not at all sure of this.

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Correction:

" … And at the same time the parents of kids expected and expecting them to follow their same path, go to college, get married, have two kids, work for a large company at a steady job, mom at home and so forth, when this model only lasted at most 30 years and was due to such a particular moment in history when the USA was a manufacturing giant, mom could stay at home since dad got paid enough to support them and so on: compare that to today, when jobs are not only unsecure, but no one even knows what jobs must be done, the future is all uncertain, the 1950s and 1960s model broke forever and so forth.

The mistake is that of thinking that changes are normal …"

More precisely: the mistake was in thinking that that lifestyle was normal, would continue forever (no one seemed to notice how new it was, that it was only around for a few decades, that is was all very iffy, given how many things could change and happen and given the history of humanity), when it was due to a set of converging forces and a configuration of forces, technology, international division of labor situation (the only industrialized areas were the USA and then the EU and JAPAN) that made that lifestyle possible; thinking and planning and expecting - the expectations - that the future will be like the present and even better (hence you can make all the debts you want, the future will go forward, things will always improve, I will get a raise and a better job and so forth), that lifestyle was eternal, it was always going to be like this, we will always need to go to college, land a steady job (only to hear corporations and economists and politicians start chanting and complaining that you need to change type of jobs every 2 years, you will need constant training and ever more education, you will need to “hone” your skill set, and change your skill set constantly given all the new fangled technology that will come online and so forth: but all of these excuses were a kind of rationalization to try to explain why jobs weren’t be created at the rate the economist, the optimistic economists expected (it was always the workers fault), as if having full employment is a given, is natural and normal, is even necessary (it should be the other way around, a progressing society that is going towards the future should really need less and less work and jobs and such: many jobs needed means many problems needing to be solved, means we are not “pregressing” but going backwards, we’re not being “productive” or “efficient” and such), there will always be so many jobs, all based on innovation and new tecnhology and new things and opportunities and so forth. Nothing further from the truth. Actually the truth is always nothing further from the truth.

But actually it is no jobs and not working that is the normal situation, jobs and the need to work is the exception, most of humanity has always been unemployed so to say, jobs were few since jobs and the need to do something was and really still is an exception, although everyone has this model believing that having millions of people going to work everyday is normal, when it is another exceptional quirk, another of those truly exceptional situations that paradoxically the technological economy enforced first by producing them in manufacturing, then by eliminating them, but societies had to invent the services sector to create the appearance of jobs (and so many jobs are mostly appearances, rituals, customs, make it look like you are working but not really producing anything (financial gimmicks are a product ?) and such) in order to distribute cash that wouldn’t be distributed since there would be no reason to distribute it: bottom line, jobs are mostly make believe, it is not normal for societies to have millions of workers and jobs, societies probably need very few workers in only a few sectors end of story, this is another fairy tale of expectations, the job creation myth, the full employment myth and so forth, all based on some magical “economic law” that the economists discovered in the last few decades, when there is no such law (and even women started to enter the workforce, go figure).

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Correction 2:

“More precisely: the mistake was in thinking that that lifestyle was normal, would continue forever (no one seemed to notice how new it was, that it was only around for a few decades, that is was all very iffy, given how many things could change and happen and given the history of humanity), when it was due to a set of converging forces and a configuration of forces, technology, international division of labor situation (the only industrialized areas were the USA and then the EU and JAPAN) that made that lifestyle possible; thinking and planning and expecting - the expectations - that the future will be like the present and even better (hence you can make all the debts you want, the future will go forward, things will always improve, I will get a raise and a better job and so forth), that lifestyle was eternal, it was always going to be like this, we will always need to go to college, land a steady job (only to hear corporations and economists and politicians start chanting and complaining that you need to change type of jobs every 2 years, you will need constant training and ever more education, you will need to “hone” your skill set, and change your skill set constantly given all the new fangled technology that will come online and so forth: but all of these excuses were a kind of rationalization to try to explain why jobs weren’t be created at the rate the economist, the optimistic economists expected (it was always the workers fault), as if having full employment is a given, is natural and normal, is even necessary (it should be the other way around, a progressing society that is going towards the future should really need less and less work and jobs and such: many jobs needed means many problems needing to be solved, means we are not “pregressing” but going backwards, we’re not being “productive” or “efficient” and such), there will always be so many jobs, all based on innovation and new tecnhology and new things and opportunities and so forth. Nothing further from the truth. Actually the truth is always nothing further from the truth.”

But the powers that be, the economists, corporations and so forth can actually force the truth to be what they want, can program the truth, create the truth by forcing things to abide to models no matter what, to go in a certain direction according to the model they always chant about and such by sheer force: if they say the economy will need a million programmers and then they all agree to hire them just to make the model become true, just to actually instantiate the truth, invent and create a truth, then as usual, there is no truth, only truths and models and expectations that are arbitrarily chosen and then forced to be without any justification: a language that becomes a command language, from describing something, from saying what the objective truths are to actually programming that truth to become such in reality, also by brainwshing everyone of this truth, and then making the truth become real and such. And this can be done in so many areas, issues, politics, governments, choices and so forth, without anyone noticing, but who cares, if it works, it doesn’t matter if you notice, a truth that comes about through a command language, programmed by a command language (or even by customs, behaviors, rituals, whatever) is indistinguishable from an objective truth revealed externally from the system, but since society and man and such is the system looking at itself, describing itself, programming itself, it is also the system programming itself, inventing itself, creating and reinforcing its own truths.

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So then anything is normal or nothing is normal, like a fork wanting the whole world for all time and space to be like itself, but then is surprised to see a pebble, something different and unexpected and so it is with all, all details, random, quirks, flukes trying to impose themselves as normal, as laws, as things how they are supposed to be instead of them being just random configurations having no cause and lasting any amount of time, just because for no reason at all. And all of the models that pretend and impose a normality upon reality are really just wishful thinking, expectations, expectations destined to be betrayed by reality doing anything it wants, no one is in control of reality in the end no matter how hard you try to brainwash yourself of it, there is no theory of reality, no science or theory at all.

So then what is normal ? well, normal doesn’t exist, only details exist, only point like random, casual chaotic details that don’t mean anything exist, like a configuration of pebbles on the ground, such are societies and economies, just a random configuration that can last a day, a year or a million years, it doesn’t matter it doesn’t imply any large scale theories or plans or any deep natural laws and so on. Everything is an absolute truth, every quirk detail is a master plan absolute truth (all human lives are just a sequence of casual and random details not meaning anything, but meaning some kinds of absolute truths for the life in question) or a meaningless quirk, take your choice: the economists took the time frame of 1870 to 1940 and considered that time in the space (place) of the USA as an absolute truth, as an invariant pattern as a repetitive pattern that becomes a scientifc law of truth, when they were just making it all up, it was just a random invention not meaning anything but becoming this absolute - almost religious truth of “Economic Growth” as the measurement of all things economical and political and so on.

Don’t take anything seriously, everyone is taking everyone else for a ride. And people struggle to abide to false truths invented by others but never really analyzed since any analysis will unmask how inconsistent all of these truths are.

As if anyone really knows anything, anyone really has a real scientific theory of the economy, society or politics: what a joke don’t take anything or anyone says seriously, no one knows anything, they just make believe that some causes and causes and effects exist and that some large scale models are operating in reality (simply repeating what they always heard others repeat, all copy cats), when it is all a commad language, all hiding hidden agendas to pass some laws, or to make people behave and do things and believe in things (like the faith in college education landing you a good job forcing you to take the student loan that you will find in the end that you can’t pay back) and so on.

And all the models and scientific - economic truths are all based on a few decades of a particular society (the USA) in such a particular time (the 19, 20th century when technology was advancing hugely) and assigning them as economic laws, laws of nature, economies naturally grow by 2 or 3 percent a year, forever (when then in the end most growth was probably due to population increases more than anything else, and life spans increasing because of advances in medicine, and better sanitation and mass produced food by mechanized agriculture making food cheap and so forth).

we are just a sequence of details without any cause or effects or models or truths and so are societies…

Now generate ever more information and concepts and ideas, glut the internet with more blocks of texts, the memory is free…

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OK, so what do you want to discuss? It sounds like you’ve just elaborated a lot on stating the obvious.

I’d give you an A for a paper, but there’s not much room for expansion.

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"OK, so what do you want to discuss? It sounds like you’re just elaborated a lot on stating the obvious.

I’d give you an A for a paper, but there’s not much room for expansion."

Just glut the internet with information, fill up all the memory of the internet with a never ending stream of concepts, ideas, be a hog, who cares, what is there to discuss anyways ? I am 100 % right on everything, I win always, I am always right, I always win, I am always wrong, I always lose, I can say anything and the opposite, who cares, I am god, the ultra god, I am the winner, what else can I say, how can god discuss anything ? he made eveything so…

Writing on blogs, forums is the closest thing to talking to yourself: the strangest thing, you are talking to yourself essentially and everyone else is also talking to themselves and replying to ghosts and such. The information is thrown in the wind, who knows where it goes, what mind it can influence or not, what intractable cause and effect it can generate, the most abstract thing, almost invisible.

What happened to joanne ? what else did she do ? you have permission to scribble on JHK’s blog, keep on writing your book, at least we can read something…

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You’re saying there’s a problem with spam?

That was from Reply to Daktoria

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i am not following you----------

It’s all common sense really. He’s talking about how the professionalization of reform has lead to the unweaving of social fabric such that nothing makes sense anymore.

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All models of reality end up being false, so nothing new about GDP.

So why are you worshiping your pain ? your expectations didn’t happen ? your model and model of the future has been denied, has been demolished ? well then you are fighting your own mind and your own models, the mind tortures itself with expectations of the future, how things will be, all kinds of dreams and movies of the future, plans, projects, this and that, when it is only random chaos reality deciding what will be, and then you are angry, or sad and mourn and worried and you worship your own pain, you worship the fact that your model was false, was denied, was contrasted, contradicted and such. But we are hard wired to be like this, maybe it has something to do with religion, nay, with logic and language, the moment you saw that you could control little things, you started to believe you could control larger things, things that extend in space and time, the future, other people and their behaviors, health, what other people do, that you could control other people’s will power, have influence on them, convince them to do this or that and then you fought people and you hoped, hoped for the future, but it is all in vain, sooner or later your models will be demolished, any model, any hope and future, no matter how sure you think you are and such. But then exactly because so many models work out to be and work, that you get carried away believing that all your ideas and hopes and models and expectations and plans and so forth will play out like you think, and when they don’t you just fight yourself, you worship your pain. The mind tortures itself thinking about it over and over again, the logic denied, always looking for a reason, why, why, who is to blame, I’ll get back at you or something in the end and so forth, the expectations denied like a son who died in a war and all kinds of similar things. So hose this architecture of man brain, design a new one…

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Was Rich

Beware of formerly rich countries, communities becoming poor again, this is happening in Spain, Italy and other places, they will fight back, they will delude themselves, they will do everything they can to make believe that it is not happening, that a “solution” can be found, that “growth” can restart again: well there is no solution, no one and nothing is in charge, it is all left to its own devices now (in a sense, everything has always been left to its own devices always), it will evolve completely independent of what anyone thinks, any governments do or laws or anything, any debates, any information and trying to figure it our and so on, you can’t think away the problems, you can’t debate them away or throw ever more debates, theories, ideas, politics, or information at problems, they simply can’t be solved because they don’t depend on any controlling causes, any linearities, they are intractable problems, like all of economy, no one is in charge, no one and no politics, idea or concepts can change anything, these things simply play out by themselves, no matter how much you try to fool yourself. And the distance between all the the talk and theories and “trying to figure it out” and reality is ever larger. And these people will get angry, violent, frustrated, all kinds of bad things, will do all kinds of irrational things, but will probably simply make things even worse. They will try to hang on to their former wealth without ever doing what should be done:

  1. crash all real estate prices radically (3 bedroom home in the center of Madrid or Rome or London should cost no more than 50,000 dollars), huge deflation of all prices - salaries and goods (salaries at 700 dollars a month) - and bring forth cheap rents and build homes by the millions so there is no longer any excuse for high home values and prices;

  2. huge public private projects, governments hiring millions (even to do nothing but to give a salary);

  3. huge infrastructure projects, rockets, skyscrapers, whatever.

Will this ever happen ? No. the developed economies all have the “invisible hand” religion, they all want things to play out by themselves, there is no strong central government and so forth that can impose all of this. They are all doing the exact opposite, firing public workers, trying to save money and such. And waiting for the startups, innovation myth to hire millions: good luck with that.

But why can they do this when a major war breaks out ? why can they concentrate all of their power and wealth for wars and fighting but not for evolving normal societies to trying to be better off ? only fights justify large government expenditures, but poverty is not a war…

Like the greens that didn’t want Nuclear Power: well guess what, now the dominant energy form is carbon, that is dirty, polluting and creates a load of CO2, but for a religious - dogma - ideological idea that Nuclear is the devil they just made things a lot worse for global warming: nuclear is the cleanest and most advanced and best energy, but the greens think that it is the devil, go figure.

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When a society goes from poor to rich, everything is getting better, is growing, there is hope, drive and so forth: when a society goes from rich to poor, everyone gets mad, is nervous, is angry sad wants to find someone else to blame and fights and so forth, dictatorships may come to be, wars, chaos, but no solutions will come. And this is what is happening in Southern Europe, Portugal, Greece, Spain, Italy etc.

And the modern civilization went from poor to rich from 1850 to 1990 and so, everything was going forward, getting better, a win win situation, you studied for the future, there would be high tech jobs, new money, projects, and so on. Now the developed world is going backwards, fighting each other over the costs of health care, can you believe that ? something so stupid as this ? I can’t believe it! and we are wasting money buying cell phones, fancy cell phones. Can you believe that ? incredible, we are doomed, a society that is going from rich to poor, everyone will fight everyone else, everyone wants to find who is to blame, everyone in fighting mode, who on earth is going to hire when everyone hates everyone else and so forth ?

Buy a House ?

To buy a house most kids would need some kind of mortgage, 20 years at 700 dollars a month maybe ? who knows, depends where when how and so forth: but this implies that you will need to have 20 years of a steady job somehow, paying you a steady pay, that not too disruptive things happen, that there are no big changes in 20 years and so forth. Is this reasonable ? is this even possible ? is this reasonable when the economic relgion, the lifestyle, the fashion of the age is to always change and innovate and be competitive, and compete, and change “kinds of jobs every 2 years” and so forth, when everything is in competition with everything else, when all jobs, endeavors can be questioned, are constantly being questioned, are being judged and evaluated by ever changing rules and rulers and standards and so on (since nothing real or concrete is being produce like a washing machine or a TV or a car, since that all belongs to the old fashioned “Industrial Age” and we now live in the more advanced and progressing “Post Industrial Age” the new fangled “Services Age” those services that are full of BS, health care costs rocketing and innovation and education and so forth and so on and such) since most work today is simply much ado about nothing, but since economic growth means that the work and “activity” must increase then that means ever more much ado about nothing must be invented and created, alot of spinning wheels, different wheels, alot of random activity change, emergencies, all kinds of changes, crazy working hours, hires and fires, as change is the only thing that can create increase activity and new jobs and so forth, but especially how to evaluate the worth of all of this useless activity can change instantaneously, is always so very iffy, yesterday that app was worth gold, today it is worh zero as everyone all of a sudden notices how stupid and useless it was in the first place and so forth, all things done can have any value and any judgment, can be hacked and hosed from one moment to another and no one would notice except the crappy worker fired and so forth (especially in banks and the “Financial Industry”).

But in a rational world work is not normal but should be the exception, should be perfomed when needed and when necessity, not programmed to last 8 hours a day everyday and so forth and not only that but work, the amount of work needed, the number of jobs created should constantly decrease in a progressive and advancing and evolving society, a scientifically organized society, there should be ever less need for work as things get optimized, automated and so forth, in such a society economic growth would occur through fewer and fewer jobs, less and less activity and the growth would correspond to more and more money to consume more and more but with less and less work needed: but we got this mechanism all upside down: work is expected to generate ever more work and activity to create economic growth: a double contradiction, not only is there a lot of work being perfomed that generates nothing, produces nothing but represents a proxy for power and status relationships, is a proxy for human interaction, as if without work human interaction wouldn’t even be necessary at all except for a few random times when something really needed to be done, but the economic growth myth and religion imposes that ever more useless work and activity and much ado about nothing be created and invented, the most non productive possible society ever. Not only is much work not producing anything, but this economic system needs ever more work that doesn’t produce anything, go figure and all because they can’t simply and honestly distribute cash to all and call it a day with this stone age idea of labor needed and so forth. But there is simple reason for all of these paradoxical contradictions and namely: man cannot simply accept that he needs to labor less and less as science and technology advances, he can’t find a way to distribute money, so he imposes a double contradiction, do loads of useless work that creates the appearance of work that creates human interaction so as to make it look like work so as to then finally distribute cash, whcih is the only real thing that counts, not the activity associated to it.

So, in light of this, how can there still be a housing market at all ? how can people load on a 20 year mortgage when no job or activity will ever be steady and sure again ? who will pay for the risk ? the buyer risks losing a lot of cash, the banks get richer through interest and so forth, and the buyer has to start all over again in another state to perform a new fangled new job that all of a sudden popped up and so forth.

And then the pay levels may change, so many variables may change since in a society where the very definition of what is work is no longer even clear (only the amount of time at the job counts, but if you could pull off the same “production” (whatever that means) with only 2 or 3 hours a day of work, no one would pay you for that since that would be like cheating, we still all have this 18th century factory idea that time is equivalent to product when what it really means is the guy paying you is paying to take as much time away from you as possible just because, to punish you, since everyone likes to punish everyone else by taking time away from them and making believe that is work, your time (lost) is your product - but with smartphones always on the time at work can become infinite) anything goes, anything can be invented as work or needed, any game can be played, any new rules can be enforced: but all of these rules are all based on the same old same old power and class structure heirarchy: he who has the cash to pay you is the boss and you must abide end of story, and he decides what is needed or necessary and important all else is irrelevant( only that most of what he decides also is irrelevant and arbitrary).

The entire model of buying homes is so iffy: of course some could say that now that work is so mobile, internet based, is all information based, you could work from home or work anywhere, only the information interaction counts and so forth: but then companies wouldn’t impose a constant presence in the premises and homes in NYC and Los Angeles an London would be worth as much as any place else and the prices would all go way down: obviously this won’t happen, real estate is a power struggle, is a proxy for a constant fight between who has and who doesn’t, large populations are kept out of homes by high rents and high home prices but no one can do anything about this since the amount of cash accumulating everyday worldwide is constantly increasing and this trickles down to incireasing property prices sooner or later (if the NYC family didn’t buy that house in London, the Chinese rich will and hike up the values) and so forth.

And you can have millions of empty homes and home prices never going down like in Spain, Italy and China and so forth, and you can have governments tearing down slums and leaving the poor without any homes as happens in africa only to build very high priced homes, as a statement of power, as a status thing, you see I have the thousands of homes you all need but I will keep you out of them to show my power and to keep the prices up by keeping an artificially created home pressure always present and so forth.

But the bottom line of all of this is simply: groups of people, societies, cultures, countries, tribes will do all kinds of irrational things, can organize themselves and create the most irrational rules and behaviors and ways of doing for no reason at all, arbitrarily, totally arbitrarily: as if the logic in one mind can be linear, but the logic of 2 or more minds can be totally flawed and irrational and so forth simply because man ends up always being fight, competition, playing games between each other in who wins or loses who can cheat the other guy, who can gain any upper hand by random situations and forces and configuration of forces appearing from nowhere and going to nowhere and so on.

The reason why the USA has some more rational and cheaper home prices compared to Spain or Italy or Brazil or London and so forth is because the USA is a flexible system in a larger sense: easy hire and fire, a lot of changing and changes and people moving around to other states letting home prices change somewhat (although not very much anymore since these prices tend to remain high, but anyways) whereas most of the rest of the world has a savings mentality, they want to save cash (instead of consumerism like the USA) and the best place to park their cash is in real estate and keep the prices high: and also because most of the rest of the world is not flexible like the USA; hire and fire and change and so forth.

But then again eveything could change in a jiffy, if all of those chinese familes or london families feel their homes aren’t worth much anymore the prices could indeed crash, randomly and chaotically, it could happen, everything is based on very subtle fake stabilities and the more we go forward the more unstable everything is and you could have millions of empty homes with ever increasing prices and millions of homeless too, all possible combinations and events are possible.

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From:

kunstler.com/blog/2013/03/fortress-of-lies.html

Anything goes, nothing matters, nobody cares:

Anything goes, nothing matters, nobody cares:

This is the exact description of reality as it is, we try to make things count and be important, we try to create totalizing religions, viewpoints ideologies interpretations, a lens that explains everything, where everything makes sense according to some set of logical segments and so on, we try to superimpose upon reality some totalizing view and filter, some grid where we have an answer to all, a grid that explains all and shows us what is right and wrong: a war, a battle, peak oil, we need economic growth, anything, any of the large scale totalizing ideas pretending to be all, but is in fact just a puny, insignificant way to see things that doesn’t matter, that doesn’t mean anything that is probably always wrong or irrelevant and so forth.

Look at the pebble on the street, that occupies your mind and thought, that is the entire universe for all time and space for the moment your attention is on that, the next moment it could be a car tire: but such it is, information is how the observer interacts with reality, any new observer will have a new information set and hence a new reality, information is what gives Matter its inertia, its mass, since without information matter is free to be anything and nothing (and create super abstractions, if matter is 0 and information 1 what is 433 or minus 34?), no grid is superimposed upon reality, just like the grid of the laws of physics pretending to be real: it is just a superimposition of a grid on reality that doesn’t mean anything: change the observer the laws change or there are no laws at all, the new particle accelerator can be an apple a can and a car tire and so forth.

10 years ago the war in Irak was everything, all attention was on that, it was everything and such, now no one even remembers it, it doesn’t even exist anymore, the same will happen with the Economic Growth Myth or Peak Oil or anything else, in a few years people will not even know what the heck all the fuss was about, even because the years of real economic growth of the west occurred between 1955 and 1995 and no one noticed it or talked about or even thought it was operating then, a whole bunch of other things were important: the idea of processes operating in the background, described as being always present, the other minds always present and this other mind aware state of being is always just a moment away from disappearing. Just like when you get tired of reading the same things over and over again, you need a change, in that exact moment you sense that it is all irrelevant, it doesn’t matter, anything goes, nothing matters, no one cares.

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We are a set of random elements, extreme details that become absolutes, but only to us as life renders absolute that which is random detail and irrelevant and relative and such.

The contrast between details and general,