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Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

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Re: Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

Postby Meno_ » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:45 am

Arminius wrote:
jerkey wrote:Include the Roman Catholic Churc in the list. The very bodies trying to influence opinion there are very guilty.

Points of fact: the Catholic Church disallows birth control, effectively causing large scale human right violations, such as child prostitution, mass starvation.


The US government and major world powers give generously to aphumanitarian agencies and directly to
the government, knowing that the monies meant to being it the victims of natural disaster so prevelant in that part of the country, end up in Swiss bank
accounts belonging to various politicians.


The drug lords, both Philippino and Chinese, rake in huge profits, causing further economic decline,

poverty ap, illness and death, from an area with a staggering 50% plus unemployment.


He is absolutely right to model his policies after Signapore, with similar problems and solutions. Another instance of outside pressures in the name of
good will, human rights , and the insincerity of
alleged foreign aid.

What you are describing here can also be said about the Occidental nations, especially the US nation: "...
birth control ..., ... effectively causing large scale
human right violations ..., ... natural disaster ..., ... end up in Swiss bank accounts belonging to various politicians ..., ... drug lords, rake in huge profits,
causing further economic decline, poverty ap, illness
and death, ... unemployment ..., ... in the name of good will, human rights , and the insincerity of alleged foreign aid" ....








Perhaps that is why there is such heavy censure against the Phillippines, it's counter productive to the interests of these countries, whose hidden agenda of control of the region is foremost on their minds. This may seem an outlandish statement, but remember Reagan's Iran-contra debacle? Nothing is surprising nowedays.
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Re: Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

Postby Arminius » Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:30 am

Imagine, many nations in East, South, North, and Central Asia, some nations in West Asia, many nations in Africa found a second UNO, an Eastern-UNO, a Second-and-Third-World-UNO.
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Re: Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

Postby Arminius » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:45 am

UNO 1 and UNO 2:

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Re: Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

Postby One Liner » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:38 am

Arminius wrote:
One Liner wrote:
Arminius wrote:One Liner, "before 2050" also includes the near future, for example the next hour. :wink:

My official position on this matter is that there is already a war in Europe (it's just a different type of war) and it's a war that will get a lot worse as time progresses.

That is interesting.

I hope, you have enough water in that central Australian desert. Maybe you have not enough water to write more than one line. :wink:

Many belief system founders came from desert regions, spent a relatively long time in the desert.

From which region in Eastern Europe do you originally come?

I will eventually be out here for a total of 7 years (sometimes people only last a day before they quit).
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Re: Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

Postby Arminius » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:09 pm

One Liner wrote:
Arminius wrote:
One Liner wrote:My official position on this matter is that there is already a war in Europe (it's just a different type of war) and it's a war that will get a lot worse as time progresses.

That is interesting.

I hope, you have enough water in that central Australian desert. Maybe you have not enough water to write more than one line. :wink:

Many belief system founders came from desert regions, spent a relatively long time in the desert.

From which region in Eastern Europe do you originally come?

I will eventually be out here for a total of 7 years (sometimes people only last a day before they quit).

So you have enough water in that said desert?
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Re: Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

Postby Arminius » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:06 pm

@ Jerkey.

If we can take Duterte seriously (in dubio pro re), then we have to face two facts according to the BBC text (see above):

Duterte does not want drugs, drug dealres, drug lords, thus drug-related deaths in his country. The current UNO (thus mainly the "Western World") wants drugs, thus drug lords, drug dealers, drug-related deaths in all countries of the world.

Why is it not possible to seriously talk about this global problems? Drugs are everywhere in this world, are expensive, cause many, many, many death people, thus much death and much money.

Economically and politically said, drugs are like wars and terrorism (civil wars). They bring much money resp. power.
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Re: Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

Postby One Liner » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:50 am

Arminius wrote:So you have enough water in that said desert?

We get it pumped up to where we are as bore water from the Great Artesian Basin (the salt content will probably cause kidney failure as I age).

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Artesian_Basin
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Re: Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

Postby Arminius » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:59 am


The text is written too much from the view of a Russian - but not absolutely wrong.
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Re: Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

Postby Arminius » Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:28 am

Otto_West wrote:Once again, I'm not a nazi. I view politics and government with disdain, skepticism, and disbelief. I'm a hyper ego driven individualist/opportunist. If I was in national socialist Germany believe me they wouldn't like me. I'd be the guy scavaging for weapons selling it all on the underground black market making a pretty penny for myself through wartime. The only thing I might have in common is that I support ethnic and cultural identity that's about it. That's as far as my commonality goes with that ideology. I'm a tribalist who believes modern nations will split a part some point in the future fracturing where mini-states are an inevitability. Definitely not your traditional state nationalist by any stretch of imagination.

Setting the record straight here.

Those people call everyone a "Nazi“ who disagrees with them.

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They also believe that - for example - France was a "bad place“ under the German occupation, whereas it is a "good place“ under the occupation of Antifa, Arabia and Africa.

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The national football (soccer) team of France:
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"No sports, please“?

Frontpage MAG, "Muslim Gang Rapists in France: »The French are all Sons of Whores«“, 22.04.2014.
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Re: Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:41 pm

That picture of the nazis in Paris is extremely offensive, if you don't realize it.

So fucking ugly as nazi occupation was, that was the real insult.

Fucking bloated sausage eating Bavarians acting as if they belong in Paris... no.

Germans are always trying to compensate for the fact that they aren't worthy of Paris. Sometimes it seems like it is their entire raison d etre. Goethe vs Napoleon.

If/when the Germans manage to control all of western Europe, the reason they will have done it is so they can try out some nice clothes and attempt to stroll through the City of Man without shame.

Vanity.
The strong do what they can, the weak accept what they must.
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Re: Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

Postby Otto_West » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:30 pm

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Your entire world of fantasy and make believe is doomed, have a nice day.
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Re: Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

Postby Arminius » Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:18 am

Otto, you know that that dreamer (**) does not know what we are talking about and does not even know what he is talking about.

Forgive him his nonsense: he needs a scapegoat (and we all know why).

He is scapegoating - as usual. His inflammatory agitation shows who he really is. He is full of envy, hate, resentment.

And drugs.
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Re: Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

Postby Arminius » Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:19 am

Ever heard of "collaboration“?

Those soldiers in the picture above are soldiers of the German Wehrmacht - not SS.

Ernst Jünger was one of those German soldiers - as an occupation officer.

Maybe France was already dead at that time - maybe it died already in 1814, but if it really did, how would one call the current situation then?

This is the current, his "lovely“ Paris:

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Welcome to France your Muslims:

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But the Fed and other global banks are richer than ever before. That’s a coincidence, isn’t it?

We want a better France (or the old France back, although it is probably not possible anymore), but he does not! He wants a France that has never existed.

His motto is: "wash it but do not get it wet“. The result is always "oil for a fire“.

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The following text was written in April 2014 (thus: before the last huge wave of immigration):

Daniel Greenfield wrote:

"Muslim Gang Rapists in France: »The French are all Sons of Whores«.
»They would not have touched the girl if she had been a Turk«.
April 22, 2014
Daniel Greenfield

Muslim colonialism. It’s everywhere you don’t want to be.

An eighteen-year-old girl got off the regional rail at Évry station, and made a call on her cell phone. Four individuals jumped on her, and dragged her to a near-by park. They stripped her of everything, then they undressed her and raped her, taking turns. An indescribable rape of barbaric cruelty. The gang of four tortured her for more than two hours before leaving her, bleeding. A driver in a passing car took her and called for help. She had enough strength to file a complaint.

Thanks to her detailed description and the video surveillance images, the police arrested the four suspects in less than twenty-four hours, and their DNA confirmed their guilt. The questioning began on March 31 in the afternoon. The four rapists are minors: two of them are thirteen, one fifteen, and one seventeen. Three Turkish brothers, one Moroccan. Special facts: the eldest, seventeen, had been released six months earlier after serving two thirds of a two-year sentence for the rape of the son of a gendarme sub-officer. Released without surveillance. Now he is a repeat offender. Two of the others have already been arrested for armed robbery. Four criminals, three repeat offenders - all minors!

During the questioning, and from what we know about the investigation, the minors did not express the slightest remorse. On the contrary, they expressed their hatred: yes, they would not have touched the girl if she had been a Turk; yes, they attacked her because she was French and "the French are all sons of whores". The judge who jailed them indicted them for gang rape and barbarity, but also, and this is very rare, for racism.

This attitude is fairly typical as is the problem of repeat young offenders, which the article later addresses.

France has few useful responses to the decay of its society under the pressures of Islamic colonization. It can't impose the more brutal policing norms of the Muslim world and even in the Muslim world they don't suffice to protect Muslim women from violence. Rape and sexual harassment are endemic and they are curtailed only by chaperoning women or keeping them inside.

That's how broken Muslim culture is. And that breakage has spread to France.“

Written in April 2014.
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Re: Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

Postby Arminius » Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:25 am

Attano wrote:Germany can rest on an impeccable public administration, an engine that exerts every ounce of government's power on the state. As well as an excellent education system. (Both are not so different from the Netherlands' or Denmark's). But they have vision too, also because they are powerful enough to have it. They assess the options and then set the route - and they act. There is also a deep risk-aversion connaturated to Germany (Friederich II of Prussia was not really German, he was even anti-German [(FALSE - you are confusing him with e.g. Fixed Merkel]; the German who thought to imitate him, Hitler [FALSE - because Hitler was Austrian], failed), and that can well explain overzealous efforts to prevent adverse situations, even if those look only remotely possible. Of course they too make sacrifices to their public opinion, and indeed 8 years of crisis were possible also with their substantial contribution to a ghastly credit crunch.
It's no surprise that the most powerful and quite healthy economy leads the game. And it's no surprise the German government aims at preserving and increasing this dominance. What else can they do? Their voters are in Germany, not in Greece or Portugal. (And, by the way, no one is innocent, PIGS are definitely not without blame, far from it).
As long as Germany leads in the EU (because it would still lead outside the EU), most of us will benefit from that in some way.

Friederich II. (der Große) was Prussian, Adolf Hitler was Austrian. So both were German (thus: not "anti-German“, as you said).

Certain false values of the post-WW2-era do not count.

Europe as the EU exists only because Germany leads it. All other EU countries benefit from the EU because of the fact that Germany has been leading the EU since its beginning - that (and only that) is the reason why the EU still exists.

The non-German countries will never leave the EU as long as Germany will remain the leader of the EU. So you are right: "As long as Germany leads in the EU (because it would still lead outside the EU), most of us will benefit from that“ and thus not leave the EU.

I am more against than for the EU. So my appeal is: Exit or wait till the day when the EU will get a new leader: the Nothingness!
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Re: Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

Postby Arminius » Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:34 am

Otto_West wrote:Image

And when will they start the next world war?

The economical part (including e.g. a sociological part and a pyscholgical part) and the demographical part of ww3 started alraedy a long time ago. It has not reached its peak yet. And, as I guess, when it will have, then the physical, chemical, biological parts of ww3 will follow. Thus: yes, before 2050, probably even before 2030. :o

Oswald A. G. Spengler wrote:
    1. (1800-2000): Domination of money ("democracy"). Economic powers permeating the political forms and authorities.
    2. (2000-2200): Formation of Caesarism. Victory of force-politics over money. Increasing primitiveness of political forms. Inward decline of the nations into a formless population, and constitution thereof as an imperium of gradually increasing crudity of despotism.
    3. (after 2200): Maturing of the final form. Private and family policies of individual leaders. The world as spoil. Egypticism, mandarinism, Byzantinism. Historyless stiffening and enfeeblement even of the imperial machinery, against young peoples eager for spoil, or alien conquerors. Primitive human conditions slowly thrust up into the highly civilized mode of living.
Source of the translation: Wikipedia.

According to Spengler's schedule, we are now in the beginning of the "formation of Caesarism" (see: 2. (2000-2200)). :o
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Re: Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

Postby Arminius » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:28 pm

Arminius wrote:
Otto_West wrote:I am looking forward to the collapse of the American empire at this point, it is the only thing to be hopeful for. There is no reforming or salvaging this decadent corrupt government.

The ticking time bomb is the demographic development - which is negative on the White side and positive on the Non-White side.

And we know that all the immigration to Europe is kicked off and organited by the USA as the main state vassal of the globalists and by certain non-governmental organizations as the main non-state vassals of the globalists.

The enemy is Germany (again; two world wars are obviously not enough; cf.: "Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam“ - Cato the Elder), regardless whether it is a member of the same military alliance or not. They try to weaken Germany and to drive a wedge between Germany and the other EU members. The EU itself is such a wedge. The Euro too. They want the German wealth, the German money, the Germoney. This war is a huge economical war and the globalists and their US politicians do not care about the fact that Germany is a member of the NATO. Quite the contrary: Germany and Russia as a possible alliance has always been being the globalists' and their US politicians' fear, at least according to George Friedman:

- http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=geo ... ORM=VRDGAR .
Note the title: "Stratfor: The US Main Interest is to Stop Alliance Between Russia and Germany". To STOP? To stop WHAT? An "Alliance Between Russia and Germany"? There is not such an "alliance"! There is only the absolutely unfounded "fear" of it!
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And by the way:
It would be very much more understandable if the Germans had the fear of an alliance between USA and Russia! There was such an alliance in both the first and the second world war!
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Again:
Remember what Cato the Elder (234-149) said before the third Punic war (149-146): "Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam“ ("Besides, I am of the opinion that Carthage must be destroyed"). There was no real "reason", no "alliance", but only the Romans' absolutely unfounded "fear" of Carthage!

And then (146 B.C.):
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See also: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=187215&p=2591075#p2591075 .
    - http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=geo ... ORM=VDRVRV .

    Everything George Soros doesn't want you to know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmMw9aM ... 276.555104 .

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    Imagine that the situation in the USA has become unbearable and someone says to you: "Go back to Europe, since you can do it, because you are of European origin!“

    1) Would you agree?
    2) Would you go?

    For comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_HeM7tLKmc .
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    Re: Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

    Postby Arminius » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:22 pm

    Economic interests, especially monetary interests have become dominant. So politics is dominated by monetary interests. Actually, we do not have national politics or European politics, we only have globalistic politics, and this politics is monetary politics, because it is determined by monetary interests.

    Why do we - for example - have such a global immigration into Western countries?
    1) The globalists are interested in a great crisis with a great war, because they gain from it very much. Result: They become more powerful.
    2) The large companies are interested in cheap workers. Result: They become more powerful.
    3) The immigrants are interested in using their children as demographic weapons for the conquest of all Western countries and in becoming as wealthy as the Westerners. Result: They become more powerful.
    4) The politicians of the Western countries are interested in continuance in their offices; so they have to support the other three main interests (see: 1), 2), 3)). Result: They remain as powerful as they are.

    The first two (see: 1), 2)) are super organisms.
    The last two (see: 3), 4)) are organisms and "organs like puppets on a string" of the first two (see: 1), 2)).
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