Germany Increasingly Stopping Refugees

No, selfish shortsighted thinking is the ultimate warmonger in today’s society. Germany has never been a real team player, always out for itself first. This is great if your a nation state, but Europe has no nation states anymore, Europe is a proto-nation, a bit more backwards than the old US Articles of Confederation, very similar in principle.

When you have a aggressive external export economy, and a weak military, playing these cards are wrong. Cooperation for shared security, finding a military niche, and being proactive in bloc side military campaigns is important. It keeps foreign threats to a minimum, and maximizes stability for all involved, the chaos/death threshold decreases dramatically overtime.

Instead, it has been actively destabilizing it’s own bloc, alienating factions within. Greece us one obvious example… it’s been fucking Greece over since WW2. Yes, Greece went farther left than Greece… part of the reason the US keeps going into Iraq’s and Vietnam’s is because of Greece… it was our first modern success using military advisors and modern techniques to push out a Soviet insurgency. We kept the nation western oriented, but they accepted to a high degree the same liberalism the rest of Europe embraced, but lacked a industrial base or oil fields to fund it. Germany has been screwing it’s co-confederate for decades, Greece has a lot of legitimate grips. Its no coincidence that the migration storm happened right after Merkle handed the final humiliation to Greece. The Greeks morally collapsed onwards, gave up. Everyone took advantage of this and rushed to storm their territory.

The smart thing would be to write the Greeks loans, or at least forgive debt, and move troops into Greece to help patrol, as well as throw serious efforts into Syria, which is the dark hole of European Liberalism. Its constructed from every dark lie and excuse the liberals in Europe have said since 9/11.

If your in a Bloc, your security of your border states is more important than yours. If they are secured far away, your will never have issue. If their economy is good, they won’t morally collapse, they will take on any hardship.

Germany doesn’t deserve to be in NATO, or the EU, or even Europe. If I could, I would pick its rooten population up and toss it into the Congo for all the crimes it has committed.

If your going to have a united Europe… and that’s the only direction you can go at this point, any other direction is down, you gotta start acting like Europe matters. You can just periodically remember your each individual countries and shut one another down. Greece is Delaware… Delaware is always coming up with schemes, but we had to go out of our way to keep Delaware in the Union or else the British would of had a foothold landing site right in the middle of the colonies.

Greece is the same… you gotta keep Greece, at any and all costs. They believe in that socialism crap more than anyone, and it’s killing them. You gotta keep them alive… no country in Europe has the ability to really go it alone anymore. The cost for individual defence is incompatible with socialism on the scale you desire. So it’s either have a strong regional military, that sees beyond the impulse and narrow minded liberal views of each selfish state, for the greater preservation and harmony of larger Europe, or you will each fall separate.

Period.

Europe is racist, not me. I wouldn’t hesitate to marry a Syrian woman, I find their hair and noses attractive. Its Europe’s policies- narrow minded high socialism, that makes Europe racist. I’m for a competent, forward thinking peace. Less red banners, less green banners, more looking to the realistic needs of your neighbors economically and security wise. Its the only way forward. Not everyone can be a parasite, Europe is pure parasite in it’s thinking.

Besides, some parts of Europe, like Sweden are a bit inbred, this gives them a healthy flux of new DNA. New opinions and insights might turn them into a more vibrant society. They’ve been rotting in morass for some time, their propaganda of success does not match their statistics they actually put out. This gives them a chance to reevaluate their course of action, might force them to change course with the influx of new ideas and pressures and start thinking straight.

In terms of military, the EU is Britain and France. We are bearing the finincial burden for the whole continent.

Is there anything that is not wonderful about Britain?

(Besides the stuff that is caused by foreign countries and foreign people.)

What an utter nomsenee! In which world do you live, child?

Some facts of the European Union statistics in 2016:

1) German net contribution: 9,976,038,941 Euro.
2) French net contribution: 3,806,907,859Euro.
3) Italian net contribution: 3,437,179,157 Euro.
4) Dutch net contribution: 3,362,533,781 Euro.
5) Swedish net contribution: 1,259,462,800 Euro.
6) Danish net contribution: 628,960,212 Euro.
7) Austrian net contribution: 478,332,030 Euro.
Finnish net contribution: 264,432,284 Euro.
9) British net contribution: 245,700,046 Euro * (* because of the rebate of ca. 5,200,200 Euro).

All other 18 members of the EU an the EU itself (of course!) are net receivers. The biggest net receivers are Greece and Poland. That is no coincidence.

Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_ … #EU_budget .

In addition: Germany also pays the depts of all bankrupt EU countries.

Germany has always been the biggest net payer of the EU. Therefore the EU was founded.

The EU and the Euro mean the exploitation of Germany.

Otherwise this EU-monster could and would never have been founded.

Here the example of the year 2008:

Source: European Commission and creditwritedowns.com/2010/1 … union.html .

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The population density in the EU-27:

Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_ … population

You are completely right, Leyla.

Be honest, at least for one second, Turd. We all know that you are the godwannabe of all racists and of all trolls. You want to be the god of all trolls and all racists.

You - not others - should be put into the middle of the African jungle.

Goodbye.

Please don’t stick loads of graphics in any reply to me.

Arminius, she’s blind. I mean that literally and not as joke.

That said she could have responded to the non-graphic information you provided that directly contradicted her quite simply incorrect remarks. All she had to do was admit her error and move on.

Oh, I did not know that. Sorry. Thanks for the information, Moreno.

So no graphics anymore to Maia. Okay. Sorry, Maia.

Ok thanks.

I was not referring to the direct contributions to the EU but to military spending, which Britain and France bear the brunt of, over and above the money that we have to pay directly to the EU.

Maia. The financial and the military system are not really seperated from each other, because all that has to be paid. You made an error and should admit it.

I made no error. This is exactly what I said:

+++In terms of military, the EU is Britain and France. We are bearing the finincial burden for the whole continent.+++

And you’re wrong. Military spending by individual states has nothing to do with the money they pay to the EU.

The military household belongs to the national household. If there was no EU, then most of the nations would not have enough money for their military. Germany pays the most by far (namely about 40 times more than the UK for example - compare the statistical data), as I said quite several times, and the military is also paid by it, because otherwise there would be no money for the military.

So again:

Sorry, but that’s complete rubbish. Those figures are the net contributions that each country makes to the EU budget. They are only a tiny fraction of national expenditure. The UK, for example, has the fifth largest military budget in the world, at 61.8 billion dollars per year.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c … penditures

I should point out that for comparison purposes, the euro and the dollar are not much different. I don’t know the exact exchange rate off hand, though both are somewhat smaller than the pound.

Sorry, but you are telling utter nonsense again. The military household is no household of the moon. It is not possible to separate the military household from the rest of the household.

You can do me the favor and say to your government that it should leave the EU, and you will see that the UK would be there where it was before it joined the EU - with a desolate household. They all depend on German money. That is how the EU works. So each EU “nation”, if one can call it still so, can be blackmailed. That is how the EU works -regardless whether you and I like it or not? I do not like it.

It is also not possible to separate the social household from the rest of the household. No part of the household can be separated from the whole houshold. Like it or not.

It is just logic and mathmatics. Your wizardry does not exist.

The list of contributions by each country that you quoted are the money they pay to the EU. They are a small fraction of the national budget. How many times do I have to say this? Look at the page I linked and it will show you that the UK spends 20 billion dollars a year more on defence than Germany (and this despite the UK’s smaller population), which puts into perspective the 9 billion that Germany gives to the EU.

Maia, you have to to put all that numbers of the several contributions together. Do some mathematics, please. There is no big difference between the military contributions of the UK and Germany. But all this looking at the statistics and data does make sense only then, if you combine them together, because the money that is spent (regardless where and wherefore) does have to come from somewhere, and Germany’s contribution is 40 times higher than the contribution of the UK (for example).

It makes no sense to talk with you, if you do not accept the simplest mathematics and logic.

Have a nice day.

But, then, the UK used it huge military, when it hopped quickly and loudly behind US wars in Iraq, to get business advantages that other European countries did not or could not as easily. And this huge military spending has generally been used, since the fall of the wall where it had an arguably potential role, to support monied interests in the UK and not the UK citizens.

I think it is problematic to see the military spending as some the UK does and so the UK deserves such and such benefits or is unfairly treated by X, but rather as monies taken via taxation from everyone with direct returns for the elites more, and indirect longer term returns primarily for the elites.

Germany’s contribution to the EU budget is indeed 40 times higher than the UK’s. But all those figures are dwarfed by other expenditure. Germany gives 9 billion to the EU, and spends around 40 billion on defence. The UK on the other hand spends over 60 billion on defence. So you do the maths. Or, if you prefer, flounce off in a huff rather than admit to being wrong.

In terms of the EU, which is what we were talking about, the UK and France provide its only effective military forces. Whatever else those forces may have been used for, in terms of the EU, that’s all it has. Since no one likes the idea of Germany with a big army, it has been able to spend that money on other things.