The Netherlands are the largest port in Europe, yanking themselves out of Europe has severe risk… their only known product is wheels of cheese… they really do rely heavily on being a port.
Now, can the EU long last with it’s main port, main military powers, outside of it? The military might of NATO always laid outside of Europe (cause Europe is a bunch of lazy socialist paracites), but it will be really hurting with this parallel joke of a EU defence pact.
As far as Turkey joining anything, Erdogan manufactured the civil war with the Kurds as a ploy to rid himself of the Kurdish minority that voted against him in the election… he forced new elections after crucifying them, against this completely unheard of Kurdish faction I doubt even exists, and has launched attacks against the Kurds in Syria… it is why US special forces dress now as Kurdish fighters in Syria, so Turkey can’t scapegoat them launching attacks… second one US soldier dies by Erdogans hands, a coup will be set into motion, US doesn’t even got to be involved, doesn’t have to ask or vet… just will happen cause the opposition in the military will finally see a green light that the US will be open to them as a new government. Erdogan’s government is tipsy as fuck, and always at risk of implosion. I wouldn’t read too much in any of his comments about anything happening in the world, unless of course he is threatening on invading it.
Turkey is vital long term to NATO… if we are to have NATO. Turkey’s long term interest in NATO, and for it’s national security, is to have a sweet, autonomous Kurdish buffer state insulating it’s borders, using it’s 1/5th Kurdish population as a cultural magnet in controlling these lands external to NATO as always being friendlier to US than to the Arabs and Persians. That buffer will save us severalwars over the next few centuries. Erdogan can’t stay in power without stroking massive discontent in Turkish hardliners, and that is the residual hate from the past civil ear with the Kurds. They already submitted, they already agreed to a Turkish future.
You usually couldn’t get somebody like me to ever agree with Noam Chomsky, but Erdogan is a complete piece of shit and has to go. He is hurting Turkey in way too many ways,and as a result NATO, and to a far lesser extent that I can give a Fuck about, the EU. I don’t have a horse in the EU game, but get excited when I see states wanting their independence, even if it is a silly independence from… themselves. I doubt the idea of a EU, even if it implodes, will long remain absent, something will return to fill that void.