Who discovered North America ?

We learned in the school history class that America is discovered by Christopher Columbus in 1492. But in recent years some people suggested there might be another story.

Here is one story I found very interesting:

North America was first discovered by Asian explorers. Here are some “evidence”

Evidence 1: A brass Medallion was found in early 1994 near Asheville, North Carolina with the following words “authorized and awarded by emperor Xuan De of Great Ming”

Emperor Xuan De was the ruler of Ming dynasty China from 1425 to 1435.


Here is the detail: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/my-best-finds/373268-diggers-diary-mysterious-ming-medallion.html

Evidence 2: The European maps at the time contains very limited detail of the geography of the inland and pacific coastal area of North America while some Chinese maps have much more details and seems more correct:

Here is the link of a 1602 Chinese map, it is a collection of the library of congress.
https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3200.ex000006Zb/

If a person compare it with some 1650 European maps like this one
https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3291s.mf000074/

One would realize that even 100 years after Christopher Columbus, the European map makers still consider California as a big island separated from the American mainland.

Evidence 3: In some American Indian culture, there may be something connected to explorers from Asia.
Here is the historical flag of the Cherokee people, this flag has the Big Dipper asterism.

And the Big Dipper asterism can also be seen in ancient Chinese flags. A 1400s Chinese naval guidebook shows the use of asterism for navigation.

Of course, there are different stories, some say America was first discovered by the Viking people long before Christopher Columbus.

Are they true?

The first who discovered America were the Vikings under Leif Eriksson who lived from 970 to 1020. They discovered it around the year 1000.

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In 1473, an expedition under the command of the Germans Didrik Pining und Hans Pothorst with the Danish navigator Johannes Scolvus and the Portuguese João Vaz Corte-Real discovered America also before Christopher Columbus (1492).

Thnx for that Armininius. Knew the Vikings were first just light on the details. :icon-ugeek:

Shortsighted and Eurocentric, where were you educated? The internet? The Aboriginal nomads were the first to discover North America around the time of the last ice age. Exact date and migratory waves is debated, but population movements and territorial discovery is consistent with the Archaeological data. I have included some supplementary reading I think you would benefit greatly from.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Native_Americans_in_the_United_States
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/1207/12072012-native-american-migration
http://time.com/3964634/native-american-origin-theory/

Origin and settlement does not mean discovery.

The aboriginal nomads have nothing to do with discovery, except the fact that they were discovered too when America was firstly discovered.

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Arminius, I didn’t know you did standup comedy… your reviews would read ‘brilliantly funny’. =D>

Everyone knows that Mormon Jesus came here with the Egyptians, creating the native Americans.

Culturally I think mesoamerican art closest to ancient chinese…

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ancient-origins.net/news-his … act-006612

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Thanks, Mags. It was meant seriously too.

…like the Muslims are currently discovering Europe? I get you now Arminius, I get you. :wink:

You get me … wrong. :laughing:

I thought discovery was the legal tool for finding facts, as far as original man is concerned, the oldest human remains: it was in Ethiopia, and it was called ‘Handy Man’ , translated from Aramaic, incidentally, the language of Jesus.

All other aborigines were transplants.

Ancient Aramaic has very old middle eastern-African roots.

I was going by your premise Arminius, so I think I get you right? :wink:

Feel free to make me think otherwise… I’m listening.

There’s so many conflicting arguements on who discovered America. I believe it was probably the vikings.

Is that due to anthropological evidence?

Great images.

Nice read.

history.com/news/the-viking- … to-america

Two quotes by Leif Erikson
The pain that we cause is the cause of our pain.

We are all leaders - whether we want to be or not. There is always someone we are influencing ~ either leading them to good or away from good.

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That is so profound.

So… were these original discoverers of America displaced or die out?

They gradually disappears because
1.at that time maritime transportation over ocean is not easy, it is impossible to send a large group of colonists across acean easily and safely as the Spanish did later.

  1. at time time, commerce is not that well developed, sending people across ocean to mine gold and silver and then sell those mined gold and silver back to the old world will not cover the costs and risks of maritime transportation, it does not make sense in bussiness.

native americans are asians