"Slavery is a choice."

I think the problem with thinking that a politician doesn’t care in that circumstance is this. No one, no matter how many votes they got, or how much money they have, can drain the water from a city overnight. It’s a problem when people, by their own nature, hold the belief that there’s someone somewhere with the power to just do anything no matter what, and that when something bad happens, that it’s always someone’s will or someone’s fault. The reality is that there was nothing that Bush could have done to make it better. It’s also true that the local powers that be at the time were aware of the limitations of the levies and didn’t do anything about them, nor did they adequately prepare for a storm that everyone saw coming for days.

There’s no good reason that it took the feds five days to bring any help. Bush could have sent out disaster relief within 24 hours which could have been on standby with trucks and rescue boats in the state north of Louisiana traveling down with food, water, and basic medicine once the storm itself passed. Ever heard of rescue supply drops? No good reason those weren’t made immediately after the storm passed. The people of New Orleans had every reason to be upset with the government.

This shit is epic beyond description.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSAoitd1BTQ[/youtube]

I mean, if you’re cool with the president violating federal law and trampling on state’s rights, then sure. A fact…if you’re interested…the state government has to ask the fed for the aid. The state and local governments there weren’t on good terms with one another over some political controversy where the mayor of NOLA and the governor of LA had talked some shit about each other in the past and both got butthurt. Once they got their shit together and followed the protocol, the aid came.

Lool.

Yep. Indeed it is, a choice.

Maybe he will be president.

Mayor of Chicago is probably a good aim to start.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq4citnm38E[/youtube]

“iz it because I iz black?”

Being a part of the master class we set up the existential ideals for the rest of society and if you can’t live up to them it is entirely your own fault, live up to our ideals and be successful for if you can’t or won’t you will become our slaves. It’s that simple really.

How much is Isil paying this fuck?

Where can I get paid for posting on the internet? Sign me up right now.

Submission is a choice. Sometimes, for some people, it is a rational one.

What? Did I say something wrong?

Do you mean they could have moved somewhere? And should have if they don’t like it here? Something like that?

I gather you didn’t watch the video I posted, where the quote was taken from.
What he means, I gather, is that they could have stopped acting like slaves once they were given civil rights.
The ground to his observation is visible in the video, the religious objection to a non-patronizing president.

Sorry, I should have watched it again. I saw it a while ago and hopped in lazily here.
So it is directed at those who are acting like slaves. While a child of divorce he had a college professor as a mother and interestingly a Black Panther or ex-one as a father. Middle class, well educated. Cool. Though he might not know what some of his people, who he thinks are acting like slaves have to deal with, from the inside, that is.

Which does not mean one cannot rise up. Nor does it mean that individuals should not be confronted. But waving a moral wand over groups of people like that
which becomes interesting for non-blacks
since they can then vent via a black at other blacks.

Like we know the timeline, statistically. It should have been more who pulled themselves out and up.

Based on what.

It is good when leaders within aim this at others within. But without, in front of others. I don’t think it helps.

All Im seeing is a guy who says “we’re free, lets work with each other” getting put down by his community.
If thats not proof of slave-mentality, I bet Im gonna see a brick fall to the sky in a moment.

The community represented here by well to do black people with a hell of a lot more perspective than most of the white people you’ll meet on this site. I think they are all full of shit an frankly, fascists.

Thats the sick part of it, that most of these people, black and white, who are making names for themselves complaining about Trumps, are filthy rich, earning much more than the average person can dream of.

It is so terribly sad to see rich black people sit around cursing poor white people for electing what is definitely the least racist president in history.

I don’t know the dynamics between KW and his community, so it’s hard for me to weigh in on it. We’re free, let’s work together is peachy. But it’s an oversimplification. There are a lot of contexts where someone saying that to me would come off as wanting to deny stuff, to be holier than thou, to think he gets my life. Whereas some other approach might be really effective.

I suppose I could go in and try to get the wider context. I reacted to the thread title and what I remembered and then what you have pulled out and focused on.

Slavery wasn’t a choice, unless you want to go to some very abstract metaphysical level. OK, well now they are not slaves, but in his listeners and I don’t think he either are thinking in Nietschian terms when they hear that phrase. They hear that as saying that whatever obstacles they face are choices. And while there are ways that can be true there are ways it is not. And it comes off holier than thou to given who he is and where his started in the ladder.

Some white celebrity from a similar backgrond to KW starts telling me I should be dealing better with whatever my obstacles are and my main reaction will be to tell him to fuck off. A friend calls me on my shit understanding my obstacles, that’s a different story. A celebrity who can come from a different angle can also do that.

We can all find facile shit aimed at us, Hallmark card dismissals and what attitudes we should have.

I expect more from someone who thinks he’s a genius with superpowers.

You can’t expect your own mania NOT to be part of the context within which banal shit is responded to.

He wants to reach people, he got to get his feet on the ground and walk with them. The people who do that can call people on their shit.

Run around spouting half baked shit like you know how other people should be living their lives - I mean a whole mass of people - and you aren’t really even grounded in your own mental health

well, you’re gonna get backlash.

I love what he said about Hilary C., later, after that show. The guy has insight and a way with words. He can do this well if he wants to. I don’t think he did then.