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Postby Contra-Nietzsche » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:50 am

Enviromentalists believe being shot with lead bullets are unhealthy for you, and tried to outlaw them. I am a bit stumped on this one....... so like, lead bad, depleated uranium good? I honestly dont all that care what kind of bullet I am shot with, and it would be no less reassuring to be as I lay there dying than for my killer to walk up to me and assure me I was killed with organic or enviromentally friendly bullets. Fucking green party.
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Re: Lead Bullets

Postby Stoic Guardian » Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:46 am

Yeah, never heard of lead bullets causing birth defect.

Depleted uranium on the other hand...
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Re: Lead Bullets

Postby phyllo » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:49 pm

The problems are with firing ranges and hunting.
Hunting:
Both sides have identified preventable lead poisoning animals as the cause of massive fatalities among animals that feed on carcasses and gut piles filled with lead fragments after hunters leave them behind. But some wildlife officials and anti-lead advocates remain deeply ambivalent about a nationwide ban.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics ... ll-hunters
Firing ranges which expose kids and adults to lead residue and leave large amounts of lead on the ground:
Most ammunition used at ranges is made of lead....between 400 and 600 tons of lead are used each day to make bullets and “a high proportion of it is left to clutter up shooting ranges.” It is no wonder,then, that numerous studies—since at least the 1970s—have documented that outdoor shooting ranges are major sources of lead pollution in the environment, and that indoor shooting ranges are significant sources of lead poisoning among people who use them.

Because lead dust settles on clothing, shoes, and accessories worn or used at the range, the families of persons who work at or use firing ranges are also subject to “take-home” exposure to lead dust. This can cause secondary lead poisoning, particularly in children....shooters can even contaminate their children’s clothing by washing them together with the clothes they wore to the range.

http://www.ewg.org/reports/poisonouspastime
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Re: Lead Bullets

Postby BUFFALO » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:15 pm

Lead shot is a problem for areas where ducks, geese and other gamebirds are hunted. There is a move on to convert to steel shot.
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Re: Lead Bullets

Postby James S Saint » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:52 pm

Leadaphobia has nothing at all to do with environmental or human health and never has. It is merely and in a variety of ways, for keeping the top above the bottom, much like chlorine and cancer.
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Re: Lead Bullets

Postby BUFFALO » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:55 pm

James S Saint wrote:Leadaphobia has nothing at all to do with environmental or human health and never has. It is merely and in a variety of ways, for keeping the top above the bottom, much like chlorine and cancer.



Excuse me? Could you elaborate?
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Re: Lead Bullets

Postby FilmSnob » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:25 pm

It's not about it being more or less harmfull to you (the guy getting shot), it's about it being more or less harmful to birds and such that might eat it after.
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Re: Lead Bullets

Postby Contra-Nietzsche » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:44 pm

I hope the duck dies from eating a onasander coated bullet in my carcus. Stupid duck.
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Re: Lead Bullets

Postby Moreno » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:58 pm

Contra-Nietzsche wrote:Enviromentalists believe being shot with lead bullets are unhealthy for you, and tried to outlaw them. I am a bit stumped on this one....... so like, lead bad, depleated uranium good? I honestly dont all that care what kind of bullet I am shot with, and it would be no less reassuring to be as I lay there dying than for my killer to walk up to me and assure me I was killed with organic or enviromentally friendly bullets. Fucking green party.
Lead or depleted uranium?? talk about a false dilemma. There are other choices out there and I don't think duck hunters can go down to the ammo shop and buy depleted uranium rounds, though, if we are talking about the US, who knows.....

anyway...

In North Dakota, a hunter has raised concerns about lead's potential impact on humans.

Dr. William Cornatzer, a dermatologist and falconer, saw a presentation about the potential dangers of lead at a board meeting of the Peregrine Fund, a group devoted to conserving birds of prey. He decided to collect and test venison samples that were going to be donated to a local program for the hungry. About half of the 100 samples -- all shot by hunters -- tested positive for lead, he said. Food banks and shelters pulled the meat from their shelves after the report.

"When we did this, I about fell out of my shoes," he said. "The scary thing is these fragments are almost like dust in the meat. They're not like metal fragments you would feel when you bite down."

States in the area started investigating the issue after Cornatzer's findings.
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Re: Lead Bullets

Postby Contra-Nietzsche » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:16 am

DP ammunition is a constitutional right protected by the first admendment. Same goes for carpet bombing..... why do you think the bombs dropped get signed by people with witty messages during photo ops. 1st Admendment Freedom of Speech..... bomb is part of the media, just like a newspaper, trying to get the message through loud and clear.


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