I’ve posted about this before, but Flannel Jesus’
comments in the ‘Dark Matter’ thread made me realize that
it takes quite a stretch of the brain to get your head
around exactly how a fractal Universe could use the
galaxy/atom iteration as its base.
I’ll go through it one step at a time, in some
kind of progression, if I can.
The basic idea is that an atom is exactly like
a galaxy; if you could freeze it in Time like galaxies
seem frozen in Time to us, it would be revealed that
at any one instant all the electrons are in the same plane and
rotating the same direction around that plane, forming a disc
with arms. Each arm is an electron (sic). The reason that
an atom looks round to us is because this rotating/precessing disc
is cycling every 150 attoseconds. That’s one rotation every
1.5 X 10^-16 seconds.
So, an atom is disc-like at any one instant, with all the electrons
contributing to the same magnetic field. But the disc is spinning
with such incredible frequency, that for us it is indistinguishable from a sphere.
Is everyone with me so far, or are
there some major objections?
Okay, now, the first idea I was playing with was how to bring the electron back to the same place
as efficiently as possible.
We are basing the model on a turning disc, but we
want the disc to be also cycling out of the plane and
back in order to be a sphere over time. And
we want all the constituents of the disc to be
coming back to where they started at the end
of one cycle, wherever they started.
The first thing I tried was following a point on the
disc when there is one rotation for every one precession.
The reason I called this hubius is because a physicist
in Germany says that he extracted this pattern from
information about the electron- look up Hubius and
you’ll find him- he had no idea his pattern was a
one-to-one rotation until I told him.
Hi, James, I’m using AutoCad.
Everything I do with it is piece by piece.
If I cut and paste carefully, I don’t have
to build the things that don’t change every frame.
But I put each thing exactly where it goes one
at a time- it takes hours.
The worst is when you run
the 72 frames for the first time and see
how many things jump one way or another.
As for how I know that electrons are arms lying in a disc,
that is what I ‘expect’ them to be like because of the premise.
The basic idea is that an atom is exactly like a galaxy.
That’s the given. So, it’s not ‘how do you know?’, it’s
‘given that this is true, then…’, and then we go off and see
if we can provide answers to observations using this tool.
It’s fun, having a new tool!
That number (150 attoseconds) was not in the linked article. The link said that the order of magnitude of the period of an electron orbit is 10 attoseconds. Your number is an order of magnitude slower.
And how is your premise supported by experimental results?
Thks. I tried that with a few simulations. It gets old pretty quick and the last one needed over 500 frames. So I developed a small simulator/emulator to automatically do it. It’s pretty limited, but gets the job done.
That one is a crude emulation displaying how the magnetic field derives and takes 512 frames (I think it was). That pink line is James Maxwell’s “magnetic wave” automatically forming due to the compression of the E-field.
And this one is a simple simulation, of maybe 50 frames just picturing the EMR of the fundamental particle types;
Hi phyllo-
The 10 attosecond measurement is the resolution
their beam is capable of. I have heard 50 and I have heard
150 attoseconds for how long the electron
takes to cycle.
Either way, it’s so fast that you could take numerous orders
of magnitude away and still the whole thing
would be just a blur.
As far as experimental results, give me a few of the millions
that they spend on particle research, and I could prove this.
Meanwhile, we don’t even have to do any experiments- there have
been plenty done already. We just have to evaluate what was
found from a perspective of this fractal idea and show that it fits.
The new telescope work showing ever-bigger structures
out there corroborates it, for example. And there are even
better telescopes coming on line!!
Okay, the above animation is based on
one rotation /two precessions.
As is this one of Helium:
But, just thinking how, since Dr.Hu brought his Hubius
Helix out of the values of the electron, itself, I should
try to do some multi-electron stuff just using the one
rotation/one precession pathway, because that’s
the pathway he found:
So, that’s the basic idea of the Galaxy Model; that electrons
all lie in the same plane at any one instant, forming a disc,
but the disc is precessing once every 10^-17 seconds, so, to us,
it is an impervious sphere. Whether it’s one-to-one, or
one-to-two rotation to precession or some other, hasn’t been
proved yet, although the solution for Benzene seems to
demand four contacts per rotation for neighbouring atoms:
I think I’m going to look at the one-to-one, again, and see if it
can be made to model electrons.
The image below only took 10 frames:
Space is nowhere nothing.
Where there appears to be nothing
is simply a finer grade of something.
And it is this finer grade, which is
actually DENSER than the
matter we know, which possesses
the spin that created the stars
in the first place
Hey, thanks.
It’s been kind of an obsession.
Check out this link from Princeton theoretical
physicists: google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F% … 3at54FasLg
They are talking about an invisible dark matter flow that can be shown
to be focussed by the Sun at times.
This jibes so well with these ideas!
Cool, hey?
I constantly have questions for myself,
as well.
It’s an evolving concept that’s slowly emerging.
Think of the Universal Fractal as layers of differently-sized
marbles. The galaxies are the big marbles, from where we are,
and then the atoms are the marbles of the next size down,
which is 10^31 times smaller than galaxies, at 10^-9 meters in diameter.
Atoms make up galaxies.
Then, there is a third layer of marbles, the ones making up
atoms, at 10^-40. They are invisible to us,
because our emr can’t resolve that size.
When we get out into Space, where there
is one atom every cubic meter, the REST of the Space
is not empty, but is actually composed of these
smallest marbles.
For a while, I entertained the idea of a fractal universe.
Atoms seem to have similar properties to galaxies and solar systems, but not exactly the same. Perhaps the cosmos is only partly fractal. It repeats itself, as you go from small to big, big to bigger, or vice versa, but the repetitions aren’t identical, there’s significant changes each time, and after a while, you wind up with something completely different. So there’s no drastic change, but gradual, incremental changes. Also, if atoms are akin to galaxies and solar systems, if we go bigger, will all these galaxies and solar systems add up to something like the middle world, something like the world we live in, where objects and lifeforms wander around electron planets? What are galactic filaments, is there more to them than meets the eye, what’ll they add up to, are they some sort of fibers?
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