Universe and Time

I understood you the first time. But realize that knowledge comes from somewhere. Metaphysics and understanding must be born. I am one of those guys. :sunglasses:

If people are not allowed to question and think at all, then yeah, I would be greatly different. Probably we all would not care. And when we looked at the sky with all of its wonders, we wouldn’t even notice. I would look up for a half of a second and then go about my business not giving a second thought to what I had seen (along with the rest of the zombies).

Things only become wondrous by that inner questioning and the hope it inspires, without which all things are either mundane (the “void”) or threatening. Without question, there is no heart, there is no mind, merely mechanism (what a government is supposed to be … not the people suffering it).

It reminds me a bit of this:

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Well… Of course, the second phrase contradicts the first… The person making the argument is asleep by their own definition! Go figure…

The “else”… But it says in this age of sleep… So it defines the age!

TO ALL.

What do you think about this:

The sooner the better.

And think of helices, for example.

For an example of what?

The shape of movement could be a spiral.

I’m curious whether it is spiraling outward or inward. It can’t be exactly, perfectly constant. And I can’t think of a good excuse for it to be expanding in a spiral fashion. So I would guess that it is spiraling inward, contracting into the speculated black-hole center.

I also guess that it is spiraling inward, contracting into the speculated black-hole center. But what if our galaxy itself is also spiraling and finally contracting into the speculated black hole center of another galaxy (the Andromeda galaxy for example)?

I didn’t think Andromeda was that large. To cause such a spiraling effect, an extremely, extremely large galaxy would have to be involved along with the Milky Way. You are actually talking about a spiraling nebula. Andromeda isn’t big enough to be the center of that large a nebula.

Yes, a spiraling nebula, because Andromeda is not big enough to be the center of that large a nebula. Maybe the whole Local Group (thus: including Milky Way and Andromeda) is contracting into (the speculated black hole center of) the Virgo Supercluster.

Is that supercluster supposed to be spinning??
The speeds of these things is beginning to become a curious issue.
And I don’t take their word for these things too terribly seriously. They seem to speculate a lot.
Practical physics has no astronomy department.

I thought this was a good picture:


… and all made of the exact same affectance stuff. :sunglasses:

I guess that the Virgo Supercluster is supposed to be spinning. The Virgo Cluster is supposed to be the central cluster of the Virgo Supercluster, and according to that the black hole as the center of the Virgo Cluster would be the center of the Virgo Supercluster too. Nevertheless, there is a lot of speculation about it.

I guess that the main shape of movement in our universe is a spiral.

Examples:

As I wrote:

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I can’t really argue with that. Free mass bodies in space are going to be orbiting something that is orbiting something or at very least curving due to something. And as they orbit, they have to be either spiraling inward or outward.

What else is there.

More pointless speculation is a definite possibility. :evilfun:

In my animations the bodies are also curving (circling) due to a center, but - geometrically said - curving (circling) is merely two-dimensional, whereas spiraling is curving (circling) three-dimensionally.

At the same time when our Earth orbits our Sun, our Sun orbits the center of our galaxy. According to this facts the movement of the Earth can only be three-dimensional, thus spiral.

One can nevertheless call it “circling in a three-dimensional way”, because it means “spiraling”.

I am talking about a geometrical difference - not about spiraling inward or outward (that would be another issue).

The helical model (part 1):

The helical model (part 2):