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Where does the Idea of justice come from?
For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."
we need an external moral code set in stone to follow because in order to be fair we should all be playing by the same rules.
Bob wrote:... societies need to find consensus on what kind of behaviour is to be deemed acceptable ...
TheUndergroundMan wrote:... in order to be fair we should all be playing by the same rules.
If someone teaches you there is nothing wrong with murder, stealing ect. you will find nothing wrong with it.
Why is the consensus of the majority a "fair" standard?
Bob wrote:Why is the consensus of the majority a "fair" standard?
Because majority votes are the closest we can get to what we all believe to be right within a society ....
The issue here is "fairness" and not whether what the majority believed is right.
But are we not in a modern progressive enlightened world?
And paradoxically you have suggested to be "free" you have to make yourself slave to rules imposed by the impersonal majority.
Bob wrote:... to arrive at the measure for Justice we need to agree upon some common standards we want upholding ... to agree we need to choose and to choose we need to vote ...
But is it necessary in this simple idea of justice that the reference be a common one?
why must the common reference be something that anyone, even less a majority, agreed to?
What you are saying is that whatever the majority chose is fair
in democracy you have substituted one tyrant for another
Bob wrote: ... you have your rules and I have mine, and the policeman knows what your rules are, what mine are, what the next persons rules are.... In short, you want anarchy.
I am trying to be an idealist here for the moment
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