The creator?

Uccisore,

Since you started the infamous thread in Mundane and I’ve been told to enjoy being asleep my whole life, perhaps we ought to just let this sleeping dog lie…

JT

I’ll take this rare opportunity to agree with you 100%.

I hate the sun… If I had to choose between solar worship or lunar worship, I’d be a night owl my whole life…

Hi, Iron Dog, not sure if i’ve written you before.

I think the Medievals had a comparison of the sun, the generator in the physical world, with God, the generator of all things. Note in your writing, the sun might facilitate spiritual goods, but only through physical ones; so there is little reason to take the sun as a spiritual god. (As for it improving morality, I suppose lots of bad things happen at night.) While the moon does light the night half the time and provides for stronger tidal motion, which improves the cause of life and evolution.

Watch out for those sunburns and moonburns, Iron Dog. The sun god of the Aztecs needed human sacrifices.
Better than both is to walk in God’s light.

mrn

ucciscore

You have a habit of misunderstanding me. And putting in place of what I really think some absurd way of thinking that you have come up with for me. No hard feelings but it would be best if you think im such an idiot to not read my letters, and not to reply or talk with me.

I get the impression you are not here to recieve info from me, rather to put me down.

This says a lot about you. There is nothing wrong with liking the moon. But be warned thinking negatively about the sun will harm you.

You mention the medieval period, tell me is this what period your reasoning skills are stuck in? It seems that way. You are way off course.

This is a good experiment for me actually, I get to see people struggle so much with a very simple idea. It is true to say that the simple things in life elude those searching for the truth.

Wow what a ride Iron Dog. Thank you.
Like an obstacle course, many hurdles.
But I warmed in the end. Maybe your contemplations took me to lying in the grass on a lazy Summer Sunday afternoon. And for that I was grateful.
I have gratitude.
This is proper.
Now. If the sun created all things. It did not create the rocks that came into orbit about it, did it. That’s just my observation.

But why not be grateful for the table upon which the food is laid out?
The space into which the Sun emerged triumphant! from the beginnings of your tale of creation. …for without the space for the sun and the “rocks” about it, how may we even have room to play out this debate…?
Space is quite important. Oh. And don’t hate the sun.
That makes the sun cry :smiley:

Yes this is true. What I mean to say is that we should see that the sun is our creator. Indeed the sun came about after space, so many other bits of burning rock hurtling through space.

But what really matters is that our sun does what it does. Trying to realize what came before the sun is difficult. It is what is in front of you that I am talking about. Scientists cannot understand the secrets of space because the universe is made up of mostly dark matter. And therefore cannot be studied.

But one thing we know for certain is what I have mentioned about the sun previously. How the sun itself came about, and its tale, is not all that relevant.

Not relevent, to…? Now that you mention it, I’d rather like a double CD compilation of the greatest hits in Burning Rock.

I see that… “the sun is our creator”, is a bit too much of a stretch for me. There are some necessary wrungs you’ve omitted I’m sure.

It has been an essential piece of apparatus in our coming about and walking this globe like happy children. But no more. ‘The Cradle of Life’ is a nice way of referring to the orbit our planet has about Sol. And shows us something of the reverence that scientists have for their mummies.

Dark Matter is something that (dark) scientists imagine to be existent. It is not observable, quite right. :slight_smile: …it is more what shows up current theory to be a bit of a botch job. Yet boundaries get pushed back everyday…!

It already does… it gets in my eyes and scorches my retina, it gives my driving arm an unpleasant sense of unwelcomed heat - which is followed by a slight tan, it keeps me from appreciating a good dose of scenic viewing, and that’s only the begining…! The moon on the other hand… IS MY FRIEND!

A few flaws:

If something created the sun with the purpose of creating us, then the sun would not be our actual creator, but the creator of our creator would be our actual creator. Ad naseum, until we find what was the first in the chain (if there is a first).

The sun did not create us. It merely allowed us to be created. If you took away earth, but left the sun then we would never have been created. As tentative said it is rather life sustaining than life creating. The sun is merely a peice of the puzzle.

Are you stoned? I cant understand the way you write, what you are trying to say.

Kolibri,

Now you’ve done it. You said flaws. You are now committed to be asleep for the rest of your life, just like me…

JT

Oh. :confused:

Is that the hell of those who disbelief in the Sun: Being asleep for the rest of your life?

As someone mentioned earlier its not the Sun that created us but rather a life sustaining object in space. But then again can you explain the existance of life under the ocean hundreds of miles down that exist without sun light there whole lives?

To me this would mean that they exist because they have adapted to the environment by which they live in. There are a hundred theories and arguements within this thread that can be explored but most of them are endless.

Whats the point eh

Hehe. That looks like the end of one thread.
A.K.A. tether.
Iron Dog, take heart. Please don’t disassociate yourself from your endeavour, like a balloon releasing its string.
This thread is in my head.
Lasko. Very good point about the eco-systems which arise around the mouths at the lips of tectonic plate activity. And various other co-planar radical spouts…
However, it might be suggested that the substance, from which such systems owe their progeny is that which is in essence - of this planet, closest in resembling what makes the body and heart of our sun.

:smiley:

The in Seed,

The point at which I was trying to make was indeed the resemblance of our planets core essence and the sun, which would more of less nullify the Sun as a creator or life. The core heat of our planet keeps those subsystems alive which have never seen sunlight, but do know of heat from ocean volcanoes and various other springs of heat. In theory then the Earth itself would be a sustainer of life just as much as the Sun.

I meant what is the point talking to you actually. I,ll continue the thread with others if I wish.