Can we know anything concretely about God ?

Can we know anything concretely about God ?
Whether it is possible to explain religion with the help of the
physical and mathematical theorems?
Yes. It is possible.
Because to create all MATERIAL WORLD the God
could only working in any an absolute reference system
and only under any physical and mathematical laws.


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socratus.com
Thanks.
Israel Sadovnik .

Hi Socratus. The premise of your book sounds interesting, but your grasp of the English language is a real problem for conveying your meaning. Possibly your ideas are entirely coherent, but it’s difficult to extract any real sense from them by reading your page. Have you considered having someone do a proper translation of your original text?

As long as we keep the supernatural out of it - (The supernatural assumes a different world existing apart and invisible from this one, according to different rules, with different beings populating it (God, demons, angels, ect), who are capable of popping into our world and re-arranging the laws by which it operates whenever they feel like. Obviously it is impossible to know anything under such an absurd and unpredictable model of reality).

As long as we keep the supernatural out of it and assume that God intends for the world to exist as it naturally does (not an irrational assumption if you hold that God created it that way!) then would it be possible to at least put constraints on God’s nature based on how the natural world operates? If we hold God to be the creator of the world we see, then God’s nature can’t be such that it would preclude him from creating this . . . ect?

socratus,

You do realize that it is only from your perspective that the concept of God must necessarily conform to a human reference system and observe ‘physical and mathematical laws’? You may, of course, construct any conceptual framework in which to place “God”, but it is still a construct of your mind and may not have anything to do with whatever it is we call by the name of ‘God’.

JT

And the principle of contradiction? Is it a construct of the mind?

Hi Sam,

If you think about it, there is no way to avoid the issue of construct of mind, since there is nothing else available but mind with which to work.

This isn’t to say that any construct loses it’s value simply because it is a construct. All of philosophy is an effort to find explanation within a construct that explains the human condition and all else in the universe. To say construct is merely another way of saying that the naming and the thing named aren’t the same thing. Sometimes we forget that.

JT

It seems that you are satisfied with the view that philosophy is a sophisticated game. A game does not purport to know reality.

It’s like Simcity, where the goal is to build a beautiful city in accordance with some rules. Philosophy’s goal is to build a grand system, in accordance with the rules of logic and sense-data?

Sam,

The persistant universe doesn’t go away. It’s still here. Moreover, philosophy is a collection of carefully considered explanations of the whats, whys, and hows. A sophisticated game? Well, that’s one way of seeing it, but the fact that philosophy is a construct of mind doesn’t mean that it isn’t a serious ‘game’ with serious consequences. There is no escaping ‘philosophy’ to the extent that we assign meaning, and we can’t escape that either, even if meaning is expressed as having no meaning…

And yes, philosophy could be considered a game like Simcity, but unlike Simcity, contains all the complexity of our minds. A much different ‘game’. Oh, and there may be something beyond what our mind can conceive, I just don’t know what that might be, even as I am aware that there is ‘something’ there.

JT