Satanism- The Balancer of the Universe

I’ve returned after a long leave from these forums; I freed myself from ‘religion’, in order to come back with a new slant on perception.

People spend their lives trying to get fit. They look for the right foods to eat, the right diet to go on. The right exercise that is good for them.

Some people get up early in the morning to take care of house chores. They work more than is necessary, when the things they clean will only get dirty shortly after.

Whatever a human works to do, will ALWAYS be undone. Wether by other people, circumstances, or death. Death will take us all, and death will eventually undo everything we have worked for.

Some people sit and eat all day, not caring about their diet or exercise. They do so, because it is indulgance, and often times an addiction. Food can help fill our bellies, and when given the right food, it makes us feel like royalty.

A LOT of people sleep in, getting more sleep than is necessary. They do this, because it gives them extra rest—it is an indulgance. They can bypass the time of day by drifting into dreams and ignoring reality as it is.

So, after my leave from these forums I have came to a conclusion that abstinance/indulgance, are ultimately the same thing. DEATH will take you no matter what: Wether you are skinny, fat, sleep deprived, over-slept. Maybe you will live longer, but you didn’t get to indulge as much. Maybe you won’t live as long, but you got to indulge more than those who did.

Indulgance… aka… the philosophy of Satanism, is that which balances out all those people who follow Christianity/Taoism/Buddhism/Islam, etc.

The only place NOT to be on the scale is in the middle—where complete chaos rules.

What indulgences is it you mean exactly , hard drugs , porn , excess chocolate , that kind of thing or ?

But satanisms a religion is it not ?

I have made it clear. I will present a dictionary definition anyhow.

and no, I view Satanism as a life of philosophy, not a religion per se.

aviemus, i feel bad for you…

Many religions are so strict and opinionated that they damage your mind and give you an ajitated, un-natural spirit.
Some religions also teach spiritism.

If they constantly program your mind,
please let go of false claims and remember facts.

They often ID “good” with “God” and “worng” with “Satan”,
and then they paint each in an extream sence.

They make “God” look like an impractical extreamist who is very un-natural and judgemental and strict… but remember who is talking to you… they themselves are the ones who are like that.

Applying a healthy amount of “God” and “Satan” in your life will help you learn and do what is most practical for you at that time in your life.

You feel negative dont you?
Remember science!!! Eventualy they will cure ageing,
and then you will not live in vain.
Then, you will not loose yourself… it will be so beautiful.
Aviemus, you will not have to feel doomed anymore.

Indungance has it’s place,
and thats why you were even born.
Your perents loved to have sex i bet.
Its a simple example of that religion bull-shit being evil sometimes, if they say sex is evil, because it is the oposite of satanism in some ways.
It all depends on how responsable the perents are.

Here is somthing from my own writings:
“[16- prl2]
Freewill and opinion, was the adding of choice to chaos in life, which created good and evil,
when before there was merely life and death.”

From here on, we realize “good” is what is most healthy and practical,
and “bad” is what is most un-healthy or extream.

I think this discussion sort of explores gnosticism.

We could see that Satan seeks permission from God before doing things from the Book of Job, that means God has power over Satan, yet God does not plan to destroy Satan until a ‘Last Battle’, so perhaps Satan serves a balancing role in the universe and that God and Satan are complimentary, although taken as opponents in the New Testament, especially in the Book of Revelations.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, I don’t believe that Satanism is a religion either.

Dan,

Your post is indeed enlightening, and I believe it to be true, maybe. But I’m not sure exactly what you are meaning to say in the end—are you a follower of science, and look to science as a kind of God? That’s what I am kind of understanding from your post.

Those extremists, who advocate a God of extremism, aren’t going to go away anytime soon, my friend. The only way to fight against them, is to counteract them—bring balance to the scale. While both extremists and anarchists must exist for the other one to exist, their job as a whole is to FIGHT against ONE ANOTHER. If they don’t fight, then one will outweigh the other—it has happened all the time through history.

It is a nice thought, science irradicating death altogether. Perhaps it will happen someday, yes.

22484,

That’s one way of viewing it. God=strictness, Satan=freedom; both work from the other and neither could exist while the other is gone.

of course indulgence and abstinence are bad things. Not because death is inevitable and our lives are futile. It’s because they fail to find the golden mean. What we need is a life filled with effort and balance. Lets all become virtue ethicists baby! and not take the naive path of relativistic rationalism, or whatever you want to call it.

Who cares? Why does Satanism need to be justified in terms of Christianity or whatever in the first place? What difference does it make if it ‘balances things out’, what difference does it make if it destroys balance? If Satanism is supposed to be an alternative to these things, why the need to put it in terms that will justify it in terms of those people?

Fighting the bad guys?
Bringing Balance?

What's the point? You're seriously trying to say that Satanism...[i]satanism[/i] is for the greater good! If it's about [i]indulgence[/i], and 'me first', then why are you so blatantly playing to the Christian's fiddle? Just [i]do your thing[/i], man, and reap whatever rewards are waiting for you.

Only if you are focused on influancing the other side will in bring balance to the other. Lets not make this greed vs self denile,
lets make this practicality vs idealism.

If you think indulgance helps you,
remember that both indulgance and religions conformity have the social elite above them feeding off of the fallowers.
Drugs and porn probably bring in more money then religion?..
People who blindly fallow temptation are no better then people who blindly fallow religion because “the man” is feeding off of each of them!

true, true.
But i guess its like a deal… some people are willing to play the games by the rules, some wanna stop being played.

So are you saying indulgence is a better option ?

Yeh Im the same with all world religions , I dont see any of them as religions per se , more like philosophies of mind .

Satanism has no ‘cause’, but what you make

There is no battle, but what you choose.

There is no dualism, to be ballanced. Dualism is a perception, not a reality.

Is it not better to enjoy the time you have before death takes his toll?
This is where abstinance and indulgence are not equal.

So which is better, abstinence or indulgence in our short life ?

A life of gratification, or a life of denial.
Seems a no-brainer to me.

Whats your idea of denying pleasures ? Which pleasures do you think are important not to deny ?

Who ,or what do you say is satan ?
Who ,or what do you say is God ?

Denying pleasure is actively…denying pleasure! I am not sure how it could be broken down any further…

Whichever ones give you the most…pleasure!
Basicly, all of your carnal desires, minus the ones that are apt to get you into trouble and cause more pain than pleasure.

“Dr.Satanical”, aint that just the magic pill!?
So doc, hows your mental health!?

“Have as much pleasure to destract myself from the problems that im too weak to solve before i die.”
vs
“Do what i can to help elongate and bring balance to the life around me because i want death and suffering to stop.”

What a bullshit of an argument ey!?
I mean, who needs to worry about our collective species anyways ey?
Its not like were a brotherhood… or could have been.
(Sarcasm!)

I don’t like your tone…

Honestly people, you are missing my points. So I will have to lay them out on the table with name tags and everything. Jeeeeesh

*Don’t feel that you have to abstain from ANYTHING. Life is too short to be dry.

*If you decide to live a life of pleasure/indulgance/hedonism, don’t feel guilty in anyway; It is nature’s way of counteracting those who do the opposite. Just sit back, and do whatever you do.

*The upside to hedonism/indulgance, is that you have nothing to lose; because if you abstain from stuff for trying to create something, you will lose it all anyway. So just enjoy yourself while you are here, even if that means being a self-centered, lazy, low-life bastard who sits around and eats/plays video games all day!

Who ,or what do you say is satan ?
Who ,or what do you say is God ?

By suggesting the Satanism is the free philosophy to balance out the restricted philosophies of traditional religion, don’t you suggest that an overall middle-ground is necessary?

 Why do you label yourself a Satanist?  What about that label differentiates you from someone who has simply realized the ultimate end of death and decided that there are no absolutes but what we determine?

 You want true freedom?  Quit labeling yourself.  Get over the idea that you have to choose one philosophy, even if it is one of freedom of indulgance, and live by it.  Does a Satanist indulge in fulfilling his spiritual side by attending mass?  Or is he too focused on maintaining his focus on immediate fulfillment to realize that he will live for upwards of 60 years and will not physically or mentally be able to withstand functioning in society with an immediately selfish outlook.

 I realize that contemporary spirituality isn't really existentially relevant, but intuitive/spiritual/emotional stimulation is still needed.  Unless you assume that immediate physical pleasure is the ultimate form of contentment, I don't see how your assertion that enjoying yourself is good is applicable to any one who isn't forced into what they're currently doing.  Given two options, with no pressure to choose one or the other, people will pick what fulfills them more.  Just because I feel content falling asleep with the idea that I am working towards something and you feel content falling asleep knowing that you had a good day playing video games does not make one more valid or desirable than the other.

 That doesn't mean to indulge in all immediate pleasure, does it?  Crack is fun as long as you're high, but I don't believe that a crackhead will lead a more content life than I simply because they believe that they live more in the moment.

 I believe that all human behavior is inherently selfish, whether or not it promotes immediate physical pleasure.  I don't think anyone can escape being selfish - self-interest motivates every human action.  If satanism is just the mental state acknowledging this, I don't see why it even exists, except to differentiate one's self from the group with a label.

No offense.