Americanism

Did someone dub this as an official religion yet?

  • “Freedom” is the source of happiness and salvation.

  • Salvation can only be achieved through representative democracy and capitalism.

  • You don’t have to believe in God if you don’t want to, but God wants you to do what you like; God wants you to be “free”.

Sins & holywar:

  • All people, of any gender or race – are equal. It is a sin to say people are not equal if we say that they are equal.

[self-contradiction]

  • Socialists and Communists are evil, subhuman. You should hate them, as they opposte our holy capitalism and freedom of God.

  • Killing in self-defence is okay, or killing commies is also okay. People should own guns. Peace can only be won through the wars which we start for the sake of “freedom”.

  • If you die during an American Jihad, you will get 7 billion dollars in heaven, along with free porno and free beer.

Sidenote:
God did not kill Binladin becuase God is too busy watching American Idol and Big Brother on his holy American TV. Watching TV is the most pure form of worship to God other then war, crude-oil-ownership & sex.

only you.

Would you rather live under a tyranical dictator who would hang you for the “treason” you’ve posted?

would you rather live under oppressive socialist regimes that tax you to death? and tell you what and when you can eat?

Free will and fate can exist side by side.

I’ve got no idea of what you’re talking about here. Are you being rhetorical, or making a point? I would say that equality is a liberal pipe dream. People are different and that’s A GOOD THING size=59[/size]. The insane Eugenic promoting left wants us all to be “equal”, but it’s impossible. AND it’s backfired. The poor unfortunate souls they wanted to abort and use birth control, didn’t buy into their lie. The whites they wanted to continue reproducing… DID. (look up Margaret Sanger.)

Men are different from women. Blacks are different from whites, from asians, from arabs, etc.

We are all different, and that is GOOD. Equality sucks.

capitalism and socialism are both wrought with problems. The socialists (or communists) want you to be dependant upon the big government, the capitalists want you to be dependant upon big business.

Since we don’t have something more moderate, we have to choose between the two… and honestly, I think Big Business is a better choice. They certainly offer fairer wages.

Kill or be killed. The world is a brutal place. You ever been out in the wild? You don’t bring a gun, you’ll get mauled by any number of wild animals. The same is true of the rest of the world. They hate us, because Russia has programmed them to hate us. (this is completely based upon fact, Russia launched massive propaganda campaigns throughout it’s territories against the USA.)

To not kill in self defence is suicide.

dude, why don’t you go move to Lebanon so you can help the TRUE jihadist defend “his” nation against the evil imperialism of Israel? You obviously are not an american, and don’t give a shit about this nation. i would dare you to try the same shit in another nation though. see how great this country really is, when you talk about how shitty Islam is in an Islam nation.

God’s goal is not to kill bin laden, that’s our goal.

besides god watches Dead like me.

Great post Scythekain!

History have proven over and over that if you put your weapon down you are either killed or subjugated. Better to die on your feet than to waste away groveling in the dirt.

Socialist and communists are not all evil, just misguided. The Capitalists are just like this as well. Capitalism would work out much better if the government actually did its job and prevented the monopolies but it does not.

In a choice between the two capitalism still allows you to “think” for yourself where as nanny socialism pretty much tells you what you need to think and want.

God is not wasting His time on TV. Humanity and its stupidity is a full time job just to keep up with not to mention fixing it all the time!

I agree with Astral about the independence of capitalism. Over the past year I have become a die hard fan of Ayn Rand’s objectivism. There are certainly some facets which I kind of find difficult to function with in the modern times.

I do feel bad for the people with countries who have nothing and live in poverty but we are here and we have the greatest power of all; our minds. It is important to not become a slave to it all the while but it can unlock near limitless potential.

Although I do feel that socialism can work under certain circumstances but everything can “under circumstances” but I also feel this would severly limit the individual.

I disagree, Socialism under nearly every circumstance, if it hasn’t failed… will.

In europe they are trying socialism a little differently, In France they are so taxed that most of the jobs are provided by proxy of the government. In Italy youths wait as long as possible before even getting a job to continue leaching off a decaying tax structure.

IN America, Social Security and Medicare and our public education system are leaching the government of money.

It also creates a system of dependence for the poor.

Yeah. Controlled capitalism is different then anarcho-capitalism.
It’s the difference between free-market and plutocracy.

Also, scy took my post very seriously.
I was joking when I made this thread.

Have you ever lived in a socialist state before?

Hahah. Yeah.

If people stop thinking that God is all-poweful, they begin to understand why there is both good and evil in the world.

What’s so scarry about the government owning the economy, and the people owning the government?

Dictatorships claim to be “socialist” or “communist”, when infact they are totalitarians.

Does it?

Why does free job training [free education] have anything other then a possitive effect on employment?

And, free medicine [not free poison] means that you can get cured for free, then get back to work.

Social security isn’t the real problem here.
Tell me what percentage of your entire national budget goes towards SS.
Please research that one fact, then see maybe what’s really leeching the nation. Where’s all that national budget going towards?

Everything in the end MUST fail. E.L.E. Extinction Level Events occur in everything. From animal populations to ideas to nations. Nothing can stay the same and survive. It is just that way.

Dependence is wrought by the individual not the system. As I said everything “under circumstances” will work but in reality does and cannot function flawlessly.

I must be in the mood to be offensive today, because the only comment that comes to mind to this ridiculous statement is derogatory and ad hominem.

So instead I’ll try explaining why it’s an idiotic statement.

  1. the government is inefficient. It spends at least 4 times what a private company would spend to get the same job done. Need I mention the 6,000 dollar toilet seats?

  2. the government is a monopoly. Even if the government provides shoddy service, (public schools anyone? if you live in a district that has a bad school they force you to go to it. and in fact PAY people to enforce this idiocy.)you are stuck with that service, because they don’t allow competition.

  3. such jobs also cause mediocrity. Their is no competitive nature (which drives innovation, btw) which forces people who would ordinarily excel, to simply “get by”. No matter how good or how shitty a teacher can teach, they are paid the same amount of money, and can never lose their job.

  4. need I point to the massive deficit large governments rack up?

Totalitarians are socialist or fascist by nature. They are flip sides of the same coin. If our government become complete free market it’d probably be more fascist. There are already fascist laws in place, like copyrights.

Just like forced government monopolies, fascist states allow oligarchs to form monopolies and gather vast amounts of resources for themselves.

absolutely. Programs (private ones!) like the Salvation army and the union gospel mission provide job training, and help people get back on their feet. The government just hands people a paycheck as long as they “look” for a job.

It’s a system that clearly doesn’t work, and creates a system of entitlement among the poor.

the government doesn’t offer job training. Most unemployment or welfare houses, merely yank the chain. They give the poor money, creating dependance, and allowing for more social service jobs, which enslave more poor to government dependance.

It’s a horrible system.

But, like I said, the oligarchs on the flip side LOVE it. Because it allows them to pay workers less.

free medicine? HA!

medicare and medicaid work so well, that the elderly have to buy supplementary insurance.

social security is a huge entitlement problem. The government takes huge swaths of our money away, promising some back when we retire, all the while spending it on fascist and socialist plans.

17.8% of the budget goes to social security.
14% to medicare
14% to unemployment and welfare
12% to medicaid

so over half of the US budget goes to socialist policies.

The DOD, get’s a mere 17% of the budget in comparison. Still WAY WAY too much money, for the type of war we are fighting, (I don’t think we need more carriers to get Osama.) but it’s a mere fraction of the money spent on social policies. (the above also doesn’t include the money for education, agriculture subsidies and veterans benefits.)

If the government suddenly stopped handing out money like uncle money bags, and lowered the DOD budget by half, they could cut taxes by half if not MORE. what would happen then?

private industries would pop up to replace the government industries, and because we had more money, we could use our property taxes, etc to pay for the schools we want our children to attend and not have the government force us into poor schools because of where we choose to live.

I think you can tell.

that’s kind of a lame duck response… socialism has failed far more often and far more frequently.

This is from a position of not seeing the people. The poor are completely dependant upon the government, becuase the government :

  1. let oligarchs outsource production jobs (which admittedly helped those countries…)

  2. Continually pays out welfare no matter how hard you try to get a job, and usually pays more than any job a no skilled worker could obtain.

  3. The poor have no incentive to seek a no skill job because the governemnt:

A) pays for the rent

B) hands out food stamps for food.

C) hands out free money because a people of dependance, equals a larger government, which equals more money for them.

Prove it.

Hmmm lame duck…ok. I studied biology ever since I was a young child and have found that patterns in life also maintain themselves in our social/economic structure. I am sorry this did not go as you planned but it is the truth. And you live in a culture where the failures of the “communist” ideals are celebrated (the West) and which doesn’t mention the losses throughout history of Capitalistic ideals. Also, I ask you. Is a failure not a failure, because it takes longer to fail?

You are wrong. I grew up where for a time my family was dead broke. And we have risen up to the middle class…thanks for “knowing” me.

Smart people can get away from production jobs and move towards the U.S.'s new niche i.e. service/management etc.

Prove it. Sure, some people abuse the system but according to you it would be best to let them die. I am not the most giving humanitarian but few deserve that fate. I believe capitalism is right but it is not flawless by any means. Capitalism is a selfish quest for self-ascendance, you MUST step on someone to get ahead. Which is fine with me because I sit in a position where I can say that. But I acknowledge the flaws in each system as opposed to your enamored additude towards sheer capitalism.

Everything has flaws. Its OK.

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  • Socialists and Communists are evil, subhuman. You should hate them, as they oppose our holy capitalism and freedom of God.

[size=150]Get that bitch!

Damn commies!
If there wasn’t so much socialist shit in the USA it’d finally be free from poverty, stupidity and evil.[/size] :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: