Man one cannot live on bread alone, nor shrimp alone. Gotta have some sauce. 
The stupidity behind this logic is astounding.
Jews (good Jews) don’t eat shrimp and aren’t gay.
Christians (good Christians) can eat shrimp, and don’t harm gays.
The condemnation of a defined abomination does not apply to Christians or to Jews, or Muslims.
It would be a good idea to have a general understanding of biblical doctrine before you recommend to others that they use their brains when you clearly forgot to do the same.
Stop spreading ignorance.
-Thirst
Km is good intended… he just doesn’t realize that his own knowledge blinds him to the real problems of the world. Who cares if christians still believe the bible is the inspired word of god. They cherry pick.
We can only hope that one day another religion does the same thing.
Mick, I liked that one.
Good show.
The ‘stupidity’ behind this logic is simple, Thirst; you either believe EVERYTHING in the bible or you allow others to be creative in their interpretations too.
If the xtians are saying “the bible says sodomy is an abomination†(remember that applies to heterosexuals too) then the gay rights people are saying eating sea food is also an abomination – pretty straight forward.
Perhaps it was the simplicity and directness you might have found ‘stupid� Perhaps it was the fun way they highlighted xtian hypocrisy that you found‘stupid’? Or did you just say that because you didn’t have anything intelligent to say and you just felt like trolling (again)?
I was studying for the priesthood, Thirst so I think I have a good understanding of the ‘biblical doctrine’ thank you very much.
What about you? How many years of study have you undergone to give you your vast knowledge on xtianity?
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Did you know that almost all christians are “apostates”?
km2_33 is pointing that out.
Bible commandments are “perfect, strait from God”, etc.
If you break God’s laws and say God wanted it to be that way, you’re apostate-blasphemers.
It’s basically like this:
“Yo. I’m God. I’m too arrogant to admit when I’m wrong. I’m gunnu kill yu if you try to change my commandments.”
Dogma.
woof.
I don’t give a flying fuck what you or anyone else believes in the bible. But you are:
(a) either associating one abomination (shrimp) with another abomination (homosexuality) which only applies to Jews or
(b) you are associating one abomination (shrimp) with another abomination which DOES NOT apply to Christians thanks to the so-called new covenant
And the fact is that they are WRONG. Eating sea food is not an abomination to most Christians and it is biblically CLEAR that this is so.
Reference: Mark 7:14-23
[i]14Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. 15Nothing outside a man can make him ‘unclean’ by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him ‘unclean.’ "[f]
17After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. 18"Are you so dull?" he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him ‘unclean’? 19For it doesn’t go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods “clean.”)
20He went on: "What comes out of a man is what makes him ‘unclean.’ 21For from within, out of men’s hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, 22greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23All these evils come from inside and make a man ‘unclean.’ "[/i]
Please notice how Jesus still draws a line between Shrimp (a food) and sexual immorality (like homosexuality) beginning in verse 20.
Pathetic. Are you so insecure that you try to discredit me instead of addressing the possibilities? I stated your logic was faulty (stupid) and that you were spreading ignorance (and not that you, yourself, were ignorant). Have confidence, loser. {love that phrasing don’t ya}
- I know plenty of idiots that were studying to be lawyers, doctors, and such… Going to college is no proof of knowledge on a subject. You appear ridiculous in pointing this out as if it is meaningful. It don’t mean jack shit.
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- I’m shaking in my boots while I wait to see you point out where in the New Testament that sea food is defined as something you should not do… I’ll put up my training/studying in this particular area (religion) up against your “studying” anywhere, anytime.
-Thirst
I would hope that too but I can only see the opposite happening; Xtians are becoming more political, less accepting of a secular society and its freedoms and more evangelically fascist.
The photo below is an example of hijacking secular/political symbols and using them to advance their own ideologies. Lady Liberty’s torch, the Illuminati (“bare light” – seeing, light, knowledge) has been replaced by a singular religious symbol. If this doesn’t disturb you, nothing will.
I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won’t have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!
– Rev. Jerry Falwell
Secular schools can never be tolerated because such a school has no religious instruction and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith… We need believing people.
– Adolf Hitler, April 26, 1933
And, of course my sig:
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross.” - Sinclair Lewis
There are more pressing/disturbing things…
Like the murder of innocent gay men by Iran.
Gotta prioritize, right?
-Thirst
The way Iran treats its citizens is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to how my government treats its citizens. TOTALLY AND ABSOLUTELY IRRELEVANT.
My priorities are clear. If I’m going to fight for a secular democracy with values worth dying for then it has to be a secular democracy not a religious/corporate war machine. That’s number one priority – everything else comes after that.
If our secular democracies begin to morph into a xtian theocracies (even if its 1000 times better than the Iranian model), I don’t care, my fight will turn inward towards our own political structure first.
Another way to view my prioritize is this: “Why do you see the speck in your neighbour’s eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye?†Jesus.
PS I posted that photo (with others) a while ago on ILP, so I know about it and have registered my abhorrence with the Iranian Embassy over this. There’s been something like 4000 gay hangings since the beginning of Iran’s theocracy. More recently I registered my disgust with the hanging of a 16 year old girl for adultery. ncr-iran.org/content/view/2027/1/
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After traveling through a maze of cancerous hope, God became the incarnation of human arrogance. They attempted to ressurect a rotten and dead dream: idealism from the crypt, and yet, they did not have sufficient power to make that dream into a reality… The corpse, though limp and weak, scared children with its dead eyes, as it threatened to destroy anyone who did not help make it exist…
Can we hate God’s creators? Can they hate us?
Ok I can’t resist it and since no one else caught it it is up to me to do this.
Do they have to have apostate exams? Is it because apostates are known to get larger as one gets older and cause problems?
Ok bad taste , but funny Cough cough 
Sorry
Hey, God’s not alone. I thought everybody hated Shemp.
Ooh scary political christians, they shouldn’t express their political opinions and let you socialists dictate your opinions over the world.
Secular schools are currently following the religion OF secularism. How do you not expect a christian to be upset when they send their kid to school, and the school propagandizes all this crap to them about the way they think the world is? Shouldn’t it be balanced?
You don’t even know what fascism is, if you are calling modern christians fascists. When was the last time you saw a christian kill a gay man, like in thirst’s picture? When was the last time a christian killed a woman for being raped? When was the last time, the christians announced they wanted to do away with AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE?
Jesus Christ man, are you so obsessed with hating christianity, that you can’t see the REAL religious danger in the world?
dude, Sinclair Lewis was an idiot. We are nowhere near Fascism. We just need look across the pond to see true fascism.
And honestly… What do you expect to happen, when the liberals have been pushing socialism and communism as a viable way to live? Fascism is a natural response to Socialism and Communism. Nazism, was in direct response to the communism that Stalin produced in Russia. And here you are again pushing your crappy solution, and wondering why the christians are responding the way they are.
STOP PUSHING YOUR RELIGION, and maybe they’ll stop pushing their’s!
Stop ignoring the true religious problems of the world. If you spoke against Islam in even a small muslim community, they’d have you shipped to Pakistan to be killed.
I always find it funny when non-christians try pulling out a WWJD quote. LMFAO.
What would jesus do? He stormed the temple and kicked out the money changers. He said “I have not come here to bring peace but the sword.”
It’s not just happening in Iran KM.
In other words, it’s about secularism. Secularism must be assured of its dominance against all the other religions. Of course. How very close-minded of you.
Also, this shows me your inability to prioritize.
Why bother with planks in your own eye when one’s homosexual lover is being executed?
And where’s your sense of altruism? Surely, you would risk your life for your neighbor, right?
Oh, no? Well, I guess humanism/socialism isn’t so keen on the community.
I wanted to remind you… Seems you forget where greater problems lie. In America, god hates sodomites… In Iran, god hangs sodomites. Which one of these is the plank and which one is the speck?
-Thirst
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Thirst, this will probably be my last post in this thread because, once again we’re going nowhere (and I have other things I prefer doing. )
Your attempt to change the topic from fundamentalist xtians to fundamentalist muslims is IRRELEVANT because this post is about the double standards of fundamentalist xtians – not Muslims, Buddhist, Taoist, or New agers. The post is about fundamentalist xtians who carry signs claiming the ‘hate’ god has for some of his children.
OK, back to the photo: In summary the point is this.
The xtians with the ‘god hates fags†signs ARE IGNORING THE WORDS AND LIFE OF JESUS (love, compassion, non judgmental etc) and going back to the OT to pull out ‘god hates’ pieces to reinforce their prejudices.
The gay rights activists with the ‘god hates shrimp’ sign ARE (ALSO) IGNORING THE WORDS OF JESUS – PURPOSELY and going back to the OT to pull out other pieces to highlight the double standards of fundamentalist xtians. (i.e.cherry picking)
As soon as the xtians update their reference to take in Jesus (oh, the irony 
) – perhpas 'Jesus loves fags’ ? – then the gay rights activist would need to update their sign to read 'Jesus loves shrimp’. Get it?
On a personal, and much more important, level, why are so many xtians, like you, so angry, so combatative, so aggressive in these forums? Do you think you/they may have missed what Jesus was all about?
Jesus was about the heart, not the head with all its rules, arguments, laws and rituals. Surely, it’s your heart (consciousness) that you’ll be ‘judged’ on, not how many arguments you win?
Ironically, the person who taught me most about practicing real Christianity is an atheist – my best friend. I might make a thread about him one day because there are very few people in this world who have blown me away like he has, particularly his lack of vindictiveness and compassion for people – including those who have treated him like shit.
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In the future, it may be helpful NOT to start a thread that is going nowhere to begin with…
- All Christians are liberated to eat shrimp, according to their doctrine.
- All Jews are still required to abstain from shrimp and other of these types of food.
- Jews and Christians are required to abstain from sodomy.
- I made these points early on.
- The transition occurred naturally and you CHOSE to engage in it.
- Why don’t you just stop whining and admit you posted this either out of ignorance or maliciousness?
Hey, I complete agree with you. The hypocrisy of these types of Christians is plainly visible.
However, asserting that ‘god also hates shrimp’ as a parallel to ‘god hates fags’ is misleading.
Does not apply to our original points.
I am an atheist, and a devout one at that. Don’t assume jack shit. It is ignorance that angers me. It’s atheist like you that piss me off. Atheists that don’t know their elbow from their asshole. I believe in might makes right, not god almighty. I don’t much care for the message of Jesus, but when I speak about it, I try to get the facts straight.
-Thirst
I think God’s just allergic.