What is the appropriate term?

Actually, it is not technically true.
Research since 1861 indicates that young children form ideas about god(s) quite naturally without being brainwashed, manipulated, coerced or indoctrinated. Not too surprising given how common theism is throughout the world.

This seems to endlessly preoccupy atheists. Lord knows why. :confused:
It’s not even an interesting distinction.

Perhaps he’s referring to specific gods and not the idea of some kind of higher power.

That’s subjective. What is interesting for some may not be interesting for others.

What is interesting about it for you?
What difference does it make?

Your “since” lacks the rationale. You are using the false definitions and the false preconditions, and the reason for that has much to do with your language which is split in Mutcerish and English. Both are not suitable enough to explain what the words “theist”, “atheist”, and “antitheist” exactly mean, because in order to accurately define what those words and concepts mean one has to know the original meaning of them, and this original meaning can only be found in their original language which is Ancient Greek.

According to your definitions and preconditions all ancestors of the humans, all daed humans, all prenatal humans, all newborn humans, all childlike humans, all disabled humans, all menatlly ill humans, all humans with Alzheimer’s desease, all demented humans, all unconscious humans, and many other humans are “atheists”. So your definitions and preconditions are completely false.

Again:

Children can never be theists, atheists, antitheists.

Are you really not able to read a whole post?

No. And even this I have already said many times. What is your problem, man?

You are telling nonsense again. Why did you not read my posts? Are you not able to read? What is your problem, Mutcer?

According to your own definitions and preconditions - thus: the false definitions and the the false preconditions - Purgatorius was an atheist.

Purgatorius:

In this thread.

I do not know why you are posting texts, because you seem to have problems with the reading.

… a typically dumb quote … seriously dumb.

It is an interesting and demonstrable fact, that all children are ignorant, and were education not inculcated into their minds they would remain so. In other words, people who set education aside are returning to a state that is natural for humans — ignorant/atheism.

Yes, a typically dumb quote. You merely have to read the used “keywords” in order to know what is going on. And b.t.w.: Rose could already speak a bit Mutcerish.

Yes, of course.


James, you know why so many antireligous and antitheistic (and rhetorically called “atheistic”) people are “posting” here (this subforum is called: “Religion and Spirituality” :exclamation: ). :wink:

Arminius / JSS, please refrain from the ad-hom towards Mutcer… you have been warned!

There haven’t been any ad homs toward Mutcer
… for heaven sake, get a dictionary, woman.

Warning issued.

Don’t unleash your mysogynistic ego on me because it will backfire on you. Who do you think you are talking to? some idiot?

This must be the wrong thread.

Mags, where did you find the ad homs? I can’t find any.

Please produce a reputable dictionary definition in which the definition of atheist clearly shows that one must be aware of what a god is in order to be an atheist.

You’re operating under the erroneous assumption that to be an atheist, one must be aware of what a god is. If you change ‘Atheist’ to ‘Does hold the belief that God doesn’t exist’ or ‘explicit atheist’, then your chart would be correct under the atheist column. However, you have one thing wrong in the antitheist column as well. A godbeliever can be an antitheist.

What is your definition of atheist and where did you get it?

What word would you use to describe one who doesn’t hold the belief that a god exists?

Read what I just said again. What is it about what I said that you don’t understand?

If so, then the only information you’re giving me about Purgatorius is that he was a person who didn’t hold the belief that a god exists. What else can you tell me about Purgatorius?

That doesn’t look like the type of creature that would qualify as a ‘person’.

Sorry. I never said Purgatorius was an atheist. Please don’t pretend that things which aren’t true are true.

If you think it’s dumb, why not write to the source, Dale McGowan. dalemcgowan.com/

No. You are “operating under the erroneous assumption that to be an atheist, one must be aware of what” is political correct, but political correctness has nothing to do with the correct definition of “theist”, “atheist”, and “antitheist”.

Mutcer, please! According to the current science that “creature” is your ancestor!

You said it conclusively, although not literally, with many of your sentences you wrote here.


Sorry, Mutcer, but I think this is the wrong thread.

Is the word “woman” misogynistic?

:-k

Is the word “anthropic” misanthropic?
Is the word “human” inhumane?
Is the word "man misandristic?i
Is the word “woman” misogynistic?
Is the word “child” child-unfriendly?
Is the word “theist” antitheistic?
…?

If so, then Orwell’s newspeak has become reality (and this time it is the newspeak of the New World Order of the so-called globalists).

Oh, you better believe it.

Excessive prejudice and abuse is permitted and preferred as long as it represents the reigning hatred and evil of the day, “political prejudice/correctness”; the right race, the right gender, the right religion. 30 million Christians get slaughtered by Soviet Socialists, but only Jews got abused.

“The king has no cloths.”

Let’s backpedal a little bit.

Do you think “not a theist” and “atheist” mean the same thing or mean different things?

I have put up with worse.

The hardest part of getting along, is going along … even with the worst.

Okay, Mutcer, but don’t bombard me again with so many questions which I have already answered - for example such as the following one:

Like I said several times:

The Ancient Greek morpheme “a” means “not”, “non”, “the absolute lack of”, so an “atheism” is that what “absolutely lacks a theism”, thus “atheism” is that which is “not a theism”, thus yes: an “atheist” means “not a theist” - like I already said several times.

But it is not possible to define all humans as “theists”, atheists", “antitheists”, because not all humans are able to intellectually process (the whole spiritual system of) “theism”, “atheism”, “antitheism” - like I also said several times. Theism, atheism, and antitheism require relatively much intellectual processing. If you remember the times when you were a child, and if you are honest, then you have to admit that you were not able to know the meaning of “theism”, “atheism”, “antitheism”. So if you say you do not need this precondition, then you are absolutely wrong, because the intellectual or spiritual ability of the humans is as well as or even more than the humans themselves (as human beings or whatever) part of the precondition.

If a part of the precondition is false, then the whole precondition must be considered as false, so that the conclusions are also false.

Just give me the quick yes/no. Then I’ll address each specific comment you have.

Do you think “not a theist” and “atheist” mean the same thing or mean different things?

Oh, lord, I went through that with Mutcer. I debunked his erroneous arguments and answered his questions in doing so. His response: he hit me with them all again as if we had just begun.